[Loadstone] Contacting the old Symbian Loadstone's developers

Simon Dowling simodowl at googlemail.com
Wed Jan 10 18:10:41 PST 2018


ah thanks for that.

On 11/01/2018, Shawn Kirkpatrick <shawn at loadstone-gps.com> wrote:
> Loadstone may be developed for Android at some point but I make no promises.
> I was recently given an Android-based tablet so I can at least play with
> Android now. This would be a large project though since it'll require a
> complete rewrite of the Loadstone code.
>
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Simon Dowling wrote:
>
>> hi shawn, any chance it will be developed for android? I know you said
>> it would never be in the passed just wondering if you have had a
>> change of heart? cheers
>> simon
>>
>> On 10/01/2018, Shawn Kirkpatrick <shawn at loadstone-gps.com> wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>> I am the original developer for the Symbian version of Loadstone,
>>> currently
>>> developing the version for iOS.
>>> You are correct about the certificates, all the systems that supported
>>> these
>>> are dead. This was the problem we ran in to that prevented any further
>>> releases. Now, if I remember correctly there is a way to generate a
>>> self-signed certificate that you could use to run the program on your own
>>> phone. I haven't looked at any of this in about 5 years so I forget
>>> exactly
>>> how this worked. The other option is to jail break your phone, this would
>>> allow you to run unsigned programs on it.
>>> There may be an easier solution to your problem though. Loadstone should
>>> work with any receiver that sends out standard nmea data. This should be
>>> almost all bluetooth receivers as far as I know. The exception to this
>>> may
>>> be receivers that are marketed specifically as being compatable with the
>>> iPhone, in that case they may use a different protocol and may not work
>>> with
>>> anything else. It's also possible that the receiver is set to send out
>>> some
>>> other kind of protocol and it may be possible to make it send nmea. You'd
>>> have to read the specifications for your receiver to know what it's
>>> doing.
>>> You'll need to know this anyway in order to fix Loadstone if it turns out
>>> the receiver does send nmea but in a way Loadstone doesn't understand.
>>> Maybe
>>> it's easier to just get another receiver that works?
>>> The Loadstone source should be available on the website in the Loadstone
>>> legacy site section. This is now an external site that I don't control so
>>> it
>>> may have changed. If the source isn't available there then let me know
>>> and I
>>> can send you a copy, I should have it around here somewhere.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018, Aura Kelloniemi wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> This list seems to be taken over by the non-free Loadstone application,
>>>> but I
>>>> hope there is still somebody who can guide me.
>>>>
>>>> I have two questions regarding the old Symbian Loadstone application. I
>>>> wish
>>>> somebody could answer them or direct me to someone else who could help -
>>>> most
>>>> likely an old developer.
>>>>
>>>> Question 1: I want to add support for a particular BT GPS receiver to
>>>> Loadstone. This receiver is incompatible for some reason, which is still
>>>> unknown to me. I am unable to install my own versions of Loadstone,
>>>> because I
>>>> can't get my hands on a developer certificate needed to sign the
>>>> installation
>>>> package. All sites that once provided the certificates are now dead. Did
>>>> Loadstone have a certificate for itself that I possibly could use. It
>>>> does
>>>> not
>>>> matter if the certificate has expired - I can always tinker with the
>>>> date
>>>> of
>>>> my phone. If I can't find a certificate, my project will fail and I need
>>>> to
>>>> find another platform where my receiver is usable.
>>>>
>>>> Question 2:
>>>> Is Loadstone's SVN repository available somewhere nowadays or does
>>>> anyone
>>>> have
>>>> a copy of it?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for any help that you may be able to provide.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Aura
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