[Loadstone] Contacting the old Symbian Loadstone's developers

Shawn Kirkpatrick shawn at loadstone-gps.com
Wed Jan 10 16:41:27 PST 2018

Loadstone may be developed for Android at some point but I make no promises. 
I was recently given an Android-based tablet so I can at least play with 
Android now. This would be a large project though since it'll require a 
complete rewrite of the Loadstone code.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Simon Dowling wrote:

> hi shawn, any chance it will be developed for android? I know you said
> it would never be in the passed just wondering if you have had a
> change of heart? cheers
> simon
> On 10/01/2018, Shawn Kirkpatrick <shawn at loadstone-gps.com> wrote:
>> Hello.
>> I am the original developer for the Symbian version of Loadstone, currently
>> developing the version for iOS.
>> You are correct about the certificates, all the systems that supported these
>> are dead. This was the problem we ran in to that prevented any further
>> releases. Now, if I remember correctly there is a way to generate a
>> self-signed certificate that you could use to run the program on your own
>> phone. I haven't looked at any of this in about 5 years so I forget exactly
>> how this worked. The other option is to jail break your phone, this would
>> allow you to run unsigned programs on it.
>> There may be an easier solution to your problem though. Loadstone should
>> work with any receiver that sends out standard nmea data. This should be
>> almost all bluetooth receivers as far as I know. The exception to this may
>> be receivers that are marketed specifically as being compatable with the
>> iPhone, in that case they may use a different protocol and may not work with
>> anything else. It's also possible that the receiver is set to send out some
>> other kind of protocol and it may be possible to make it send nmea. You'd
>> have to read the specifications for your receiver to know what it's doing.
>> You'll need to know this anyway in order to fix Loadstone if it turns out
>> the receiver does send nmea but in a way Loadstone doesn't understand. Maybe
>> it's easier to just get another receiver that works?
>> The Loadstone source should be available on the website in the Loadstone
>> legacy site section. This is now an external site that I don't control so it
>> may have changed. If the source isn't available there then let me know and I
>> can send you a copy, I should have it around here somewhere.
>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018, Aura Kelloniemi wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> This list seems to be taken over by the non-free Loadstone application,
>>> but I
>>> hope there is still somebody who can guide me.
>>> I have two questions regarding the old Symbian Loadstone application. I
>>> wish
>>> somebody could answer them or direct me to someone else who could help -
>>> most
>>> likely an old developer.
>>> Question 1: I want to add support for a particular BT GPS receiver to
>>> Loadstone. This receiver is incompatible for some reason, which is still
>>> unknown to me. I am unable to install my own versions of Loadstone,
>>> because I
>>> can't get my hands on a developer certificate needed to sign the
>>> installation
>>> package. All sites that once provided the certificates are now dead. Did
>>> Loadstone have a certificate for itself that I possibly could use. It does
>>> not
>>> matter if the certificate has expired - I can always tinker with the date
>>> of
>>> my phone. If I can't find a certificate, my project will fail and I need
>>> to
>>> find another platform where my receiver is usable.
>>> Question 2:
>>> Is Loadstone's SVN repository available somewhere nowadays or does anyone
>>> have
>>> a copy of it?
>>> Thank you for any help that you may be able to provide.
>>> --
>>> Aura
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