[Loadstone] Porting to Android

Peter lecky_lists at nextra.sk
Thu Oct 22 20:57:39 BST 2015

Dave is right, you are really not objective.
On 22. 10. 2015 21:50, Dave Mielke wrote:
> [quoted lines by Shawn Kirkpatrick on 2015/10/22 at 12:29 -0700]
>> Well, not to get in to an argument here but what I reported was facts
>> since they happened. I can only report on my experience with the
>> available knowledge at the time.
> You're a developer, right? Would you rather someone misrepresent your software 
> based on an unfortunately bad experience, or give you the benefit of the doubt?
>> In some ways your explanation points out the problems, the talkback setting at 
>> the bottom of a screen that may have to be scrolled, 
> There's a scroll bar. Some settings in a long list are going to fall off the 
> bottom. Android puts the most commonly needed ones at the top. That's entirely 
> normal and reasonable. The scroll bar clearly shows any sighted user that there 
> are more things to look at.
> What if the system clock is wrong? The button for going to the screen to set 
> the clock also often falls off the bottom and needs to be scrolled to. Is that 
> somehow biased against those who need to reset their device clocks? Will 
> Android only become mature when the button for fixing the time on the clock is 
> easier to find?
> Where does one draw the line, here? The fact is that Android is a highly 
> configurable system. A consequence of this is that even the top-level settings 
> list is long. This doesn't in any way imply immature accessibility. It's just 
> that the accessibility settings are closer to the bottom because they aren't 
> needed as often, even by a blind user. Even blind users tend to only need them 
> at the start, to get the device configured, and then, even they end up 
> preferring the settings that are near the top to be where they are.
>> the accessibility shortcut that may or may not be enabled. 
> This, too, doesn't imply immature accessibility. Everything in Android is 
> configurable. That's just one of the philosophies behind the system. Being able 
> to disable that settingh means that a sighted person can much more easily use 
> the device while still having it talk for a listening blind person.
>> This would seem to indicate that the android accessibility is still in the 
>> process of maturing. 
> In your opinion! Again, you're stating your own opinions as though they're 
> facts. That's just neither reasonable nor fair.

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