[Loadstone] Porting to Android

Shawn Kirkpatrick shawn at loadstone-gps.com
Thu Oct 22 03:44:46 BST 2015

No doubt I had poor sighted assistance. I think we've all had the experience 
of having a sighted person read something that they're not sure about and 
you don't know exactly how to guide them as to what you need. We did try the 
steps you listed but for some reason didn't see anything about talkback. I 
don't know if it wasn't there or if the person just didn't see it. I wish I 
had known about that power switch trick, that might have helped things. Is 
that accross all devices and versions or is it a new thing?
That's good to hear that there's the swipe left and right gestures to 
explore screen elements, determining what's on the screen without these 
would be rather difficult.
I really wish there was a comprehensive side by side comparison of ios and 
android accessibility instead of trying to pick up all this information in 
bits and peaces.

On Wed, 21 Oct 2015, Dave Mielke wrote:

> [quoted lines by Shawn Kirkpatrick on 2015/10/21 at 18:42 -0700]
>> I have pretty much no experience with android but the one experience
>> I do have was very negative. A few days ago I had an oppertunity to
>> look at an android phone. This was the latest model from Samsung
>> (galaxie I think). Even with sighted assistance we could not figure
>> out how to turn the speech on. I have no doubt that most of this was
>> user error but the fact that it couldn't be figured out is a big
>> problem.
> You had very poor sighted assistance, then. The first place that the sighted
> person should've looked was in Settings. Had he looked there, he'd have seen
> Accessibility. Had he looked in there, he'd have seen TalkBack, with an
> enable/disable switch beside it.
> To turn on accessibility without sighted assistance, hold the power switch for
> about a second till the phone beeps. This brings up the global actions dialog
> (which some people think of as the power off dialog). On that screen, hld two
> fingers down till the phone begins to talk.
>> Another example would be that android doesn't have a gesture to move from
>> element to element to explore the screen (feel free to correct this if it's
>> wrong) but you have to move your finger around all parts of the screen to see
>> what's there.
> That's simply not true at all. Swiping your finger to the right moves to the
> next screen element, and swiping your finger to the left moves to the previous
> screen element. You can disable this, of course, by turning Explore by Touch
> off. :-) There are many more gestures than just these two. Also, yes, you can
> explore the screen by moving your finger around on it as well, which is very
> useful when you want to learn how various screen elements are positioned with
> respect to one another.
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