[Loadstone] Porting to Android

Shawn Kirkpatrick shawn at loadstone-gps.com
Wed Oct 14 00:35:28 BST 2015

Thank you for the offer, this actually sounds like a nice little phone so 
I'll give it some thought. Unfortunately phraises like "it's not very 
comfortable with talkback" cause me concern. The more I read about 
accessibility and the android platform the more of these phraises I keep 
seeing. Things like:
If you change the default synthesizer ...
once you change the default home screen launcher ...
depending on device selection ...
and android version ...
some applications are accessible but ...
there's a work around for ...
Then after every ... there's an explanation of something that might work or 
partially work.
I found someone I know that has an android phone so I'm hoping to at least 
get a look at it in the next week or so to either confirm or deny some 
of these 
things. I don't want to get in to a situation where I'm developing 
for a device or platform that is only useful for loadstone or maybe not even 
that. We made a similar mistake while developing loadstone for the nokia 
phones. Most nokia phones were fine (for what they were at the time) but 
then I was given an n97 mini for testing. This was a phone with a touch 
screen and a slide out keyboard. The usability on this phone was absolutely 
horrible. The combination of the symbian os, the touch interface, and the 
support that talks had for it made the worst experience possible. 
Ttechnically it worked and could be called accessible but practically 
speaking the device wasn't usable for anything, loadstone maybe worst of 
all. This phone now just sits on my desk and never got to the point of being 
road tested with loadstone. The lesson learned here is that there can be a 
very big difference between accessibility and usability and a device that 
isn't usable just doesn't get used. If I'm going to spend the time effort 
and money to develop for a platform then I want to make very sure it's 
something I can actually use.
I'm glad to hear that development (at least eclipse) is accessible. This 
would seem to put android and ios on equal footing in that area at least.

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015, Emanuel Boboiu wrote:

> I have a Samsung Young phone which I can give you for free, I can send it 
> from Romania via Mail if it's possible. It is a 60 euros price, but it has 
> everything: wifi, GPS, memory ram one giga, like an iPhone 5, it has 4 GB 
> internal storage and support a 64 SD card flash memory, I have here one of 8 
> GB which I can put inside before sending.
> Of course this phone is small and it is not so confortable with talkback, but 
> everything can be done with a little patience. Even Google Maps works. You 
> can use of course Google Maps APIs for free.
> If you are interested, my e-mail address is emanuelboboiu at gmail dot com.
>   Best regards,
>    Manu
> -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Kirkpatrick
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 3:47 PM
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Porting to Android
> I keep hearing about these sub $100 android devices, so hear's a challenge
> for anyone, find a sub $100 android unlocked phone in Canada. The hardware
> would at least have to have a gps and enough memory to hold a reasonable
> amount of map data. It would also have to perform well with talkback. I look
> forward to seeing what people come up with.
> As for loadstone being a web app that's not what loadstone is all about. The
> idea is to have it work without a data plan or connectivity of any kind. Of
> course if you have connectivity even better for data loading and other
> features but the basics will function offline.
> On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Kotian, H P wrote:
>> All
>> I am getting a feeling, there is a strong resistance porting to Android. 
>> Nexsas devices are indeed pricy. But there are plenty of Android devices 
>> which are Sub $100 which has the GPS and decent hardware to test the 
>> developed apps.
>> Usability of Android devices gets a bit impacted by customisations been 
>> done by vendors. However, they will not come in the way of testing a 
>> developed apps.
>> Moto G is not pricy at all and they are Stock Android.
>> At any rate, the approach to make the appweb based would take care of all 
>> the platform issues.
>> Do consider the developments on this line.
>> Harish Kotian
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