[Loadstone] Point Share

Peter Wendorff wendorff at uni-paderborn.de
Fri Jun 29 16:33:32 BST 2012

Hi List.
I looked into the point share again (after a long time not using it), 
and I think, there could be far more offered with regard to 
OpenStreetMap points export on the one hand, and some features that 
could be added to loadstone itself probably.

rj mentioned unknown recycling containers as an example.
While these are really annoying as a "replacement" for the street 
intersections, a (preprocessed) different naming scheme like "recycling 
container on the left side of main street between Mozart Street and 
Forrest Hill" would be a good additional orientation point probably 
(especially as recycling containers may be targets for navigation for 
some people?).

The proposal of rj to enable the selection of POI types is a good one, 
the feature to choose different relevance of single points in the 
database while using loadstone would be another one, that could help. It 
could lead to something like "tell about street intersections. If you 
did that and there's time left (there's nothing to tell in that 
category), add the next less important category - e.g. the waste baskets."


Am 29.06.2012 09:34, schrieb rj:
> Hi List, Shawn,
> I have downloaded the  osm poi's from the Loadstone point share site and
> the site works very nice.
> I have imported them into my phone. The osm intersections for the
> netherlands were already there.
> In using I ran into the problem that all recycling containers,
> wastebaskets artworks playground and so on are mapped.
> So I often ended up between a nameless wastebasket, recycling, drinking
> water, artwork or playground. And as they are everywhere they dont give
> you any clue to where you are.
> The result is it often doesn't tell you anymore that you are i.e. at
> intersection "Dam X Rokin" but that you are at wastebasket because that
> thing is closer to you.
> So it is essential to be able to select the kind of poi's you want to
> add.
> I think I would first try only the bus and tram stops, supermakert and
> cafe/restaurants to see how that works.
> I hope you can add this functionality to the poi share site.
>   I myself am still strugling with Osmosis and Postgresql trying to
> understand how to do this job on an .osm file.
> Robert
>                                From:
> Shawn Kirkpatrick
> <shawn at loadstone-gps.com>
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> loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
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> loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>                             Subject:
> [Loadstone] Point Share
>                                Date:
> 06/22/2012 01:06:42 AM
> Hello list.
> I wanted to let you all know about updates that have been made to the
> Loadstone point share database. The point share was recently moved to a
> new
> server and with this move came a few upgrades. The two major upgrades
> are:
> the get points by civic location function should now work propperly.
> Previously there were problems with this in some browsers but hopefully
> these have now been fixed. This function will also now work in browsers
> that
> do not support javascript or have javascript disabled.
> The other major upgrade is we now can include openstreetmap data in the
> point share database. We have a local mirror of the entire
> openstreetmap
> database so this data can be selected as a source when exporting. When
> exporting data there's now an option to select the data source. This can
> be
> point share and openstreetmap (the default), point share only, or
> openstreetmap only. This means that you do not need to download data
> from
> openstreetmap and use any tools to convert to loadstone format.
> At the moment the openstreetmap data only includes points of interest
> (pois)
> street intersections are not included. Intersections will be included
> when I
> figure out how to make the database calculate these. If anybody has any
> information on how to do this let me know.
> There have also been minor tweaks to the user interface to hopefully
> make
> things a bit more user-friendly.
> The point share system is still being worked on so feal free to report
> any
> problems you may experience or any suggestions about how things can be
> improved.
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