[Loadstone] Some feature wishes

Farfar on Laptop dgcarlson at sbcglobal.net
Tue Nov 8 19:36:02 GMT 2011


I really like that idea. Simple and elegant. You stated the solution more 
elegantly than did I.
Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Przemyslaw Rogalski" <Rogalski at o2.pl>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:30
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Some feature wishes


What for?
Let's make it simpler:
Database menu item: "Save as default", that would save paths and filenames
of the currently loaded databases into a file called "default_database" .
Upon Ls startup, the appropriate paths could be scanned and databases
loaded.
Additional menu items "Show default databases" (with a list of loaded ones)
and "delete default databases" for clearing the cfg file could be added as
well.
What do you think about it?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ari Moisio" <arimo at iki.fi>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Some feature wishes


> Hello
>
> I have thought following scheme:
>
> - Ls will scan each database and store their  boundign boxes, ie minlon,
> minlat, maxlon, maxlat) to separate table.
>
> - When selecting map LS will offer  nearby maps top at the list.
>
> -When starting there could be a user-settable option witch map  to open:
> -  Map with  fixed name, for example 'default'.
> - Nearest map
> - All maps  user are inside according their bounding boxes.
> All these selections could also have their own shutcut key.
>
>
> If GPS signal is not available LS could also make a corase selection by
> using the GSM cell identification stored on each database to select the
> closest one.
>
>
> -- 
> mr. M01510 & guide Loadstone-GPS
> hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020
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>
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Farfar on Laptop wrote:
>
>> Shawn,
>>
>> You're thinking along the right lines, I'm sure. Regardless of the
>> technique, having to use Y Browser to rename a database file to default
>> is
>> definitely not good for someone who travels.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" <shawn at loadstone-gps.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 16:37
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Some feature wishes
>>
>>
>> Loading the last used database on start could work but might not be
>> anymore
>> useful than the current system. It also means starting loadstone in a bit
>> of
>> an unknown state since the loaded database could be changing on every
>> start.
>> It could be set in the configuration but then it would only account for
>> loading a single database. If this system is going to be changed it might
>> as
>> well be done right. Since loadstone can load more than one database at a
>> time whatever system is used should allow for loading more than one
>> database
>> at start up. The interface to this system should also make sence and be
>> easy
>> to use.
>>
>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Farfar on Laptop wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Shawn,
>>>
>>> Yes, directing Loadstone on the preferred database on startup is fine,
>>> as
>>> well. Why not just allow the "last used" database to be the default on
>>> startup? Set this in the configuration. That is a user preference. Of
>>> course
>>> the only hitch there is to somehow tell the user which database is
>>> loaded
>>> on
>>> startup.
>>>
>>> Otherwise just set the preferred database in the configuration, rather
>>> than
>>> defaulting to default,as we do now.
>>>
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" <shawn at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 15:58
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Some feature wishes
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think you'd really like the results of implementing what you
>>> suggest. Having the database "overwrite" would be a very bad idea since
>>> this
>>> would result in data loss when the default was changed. I think what
>>> there
>>> needs to be is a way of telling loadstone which databases to load on
>>> start
>>> up. I'm not sure what the best way to do this is going to be thoe.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Farfar on Laptop wrote:
>>>
>>>> Shawn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I can ask again, I'd like a better way to assign a default database.
>>>> You
>>>> need to have a choice to overwrite the existing default database with
>>>> the
>>>> one currently loaded. When I travel I have to either repeatedly load
>>>> the
>>>> desired database each time I start Loadstone, or go into Y-Browser and
>>>> copy/rename in the folder so that a new default is created. Just allow
>>>> the
>>>> currently loaded database to overwrite the default at the user's
>>>> request.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>> Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay
>>>> Area
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" <shawn at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 15:18
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Some feature wishes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trying to interrupt an already running function just doesn't work. To
>>>> see
>>>> what happens with this just try tapping any key twice as if you were
>>>> double
>>>> clicking and see what happens. The output will speak twice, the second
>>>> output doesn't cut the first one off. This isn't at all what you'd want
>>>> with
>>>> a double click.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Ari Moisio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I think there is no need for  the delay with double click commands
>>>>> but
>>>>> the
>>>>> double clicked shoftcut will interrupt the first function. This of
>>>>> course
>>>>> means that one cannot assign an interactive command such as label
>>>>> point
>>>>> as
>>>>> the  one-click  shoftcut if  he/she wants to have a double-click
>>>>> command
>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with ordered checkpoint lists. With those both relative and
>>>>> cardinal
>>>>> direction could be calculated on the fly but i still consider the name
>>>>> of
>>>>> waypoints if available at the comment field because with that
>>>>> information
>>>>> the
>>>>> routes are easier to use ithout a map of that same area.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried to make the route  informatio similar to those verbose maps i
>>>>> have
>>>>> used every now and then and with those maps  there are separate maps
>>>>> for
>>>>> each
>>>>> direction.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- mr. M01510 & guide Loadstone-GPS
>>>>> hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020
>>>>> 0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600  B784 D02
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2011, Shawn Kirkpatrick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The double click idea for keys is interesting. This would give more
>>>>>> keys
>>>>>> especially on those phones that don't have many buttons such as the
>>>>>> newer
>>>>>> touch screen phones. This cwould slow down the responsiveness of
>>>>>> single
>>>>>> key
>>>>>> commands thoe since it would have to wait to see if a double click
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> about to follow.
>>>>>> I think the real solution to the routing problem is propperly
>>>>>> sequenced
>>>>>> routes. Trying to add all the information using a checkpoint's
>>>>>> comment
>>>>>> field presentes several problems. The first problem is it only
>>>>>> accounts
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a route in a specific order going in a specific direction. This means
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> system can't account for changes in the travel conditions, if you're
>>>>>> approaching a checkpoint from another direction any hard-coded
>>>>>> directions
>>>>>> in the comment field are meaningless. The checkpoint logic doesn't
>>>>>> follow
>>>>>> any order so points could be announced out of sequence making any
>>>>>> relative
>>>>>> information unusable at that point. This also doesn't account for
>>>>>> doing
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> route in reverse.
>>>>>> What's needed is a sequenced route system. Basically checkpoints with
>>>>>> sequence numbers as well as some other information such as which
>>>>>> direction
>>>>>> of a route the point applies to. This way a route could be followed
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> propper order but also account for the direction or starting at a
>>>>>> point
>>>>>> other than the beginning or end.
>>>>>> I want to get this system designed propperly rather than trying to
>>>>>> hack
>>>>>> things on to the existing checkpoint system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2011, Ari Moisio wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some additional functionality, hopefully not too hard to implement:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - A new shortcut key modifier: doble click:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if user presses same shortcut  key  rapidly twice LS could perform
>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>> unction. For example:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Single press  for gps time, double press for gps date or single
>>>>>>> press
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> next checkpoint, double press for next comment and so on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although there probably are  shortcuts enough for  each assignamble
>>>>>>> function i have found it easier if similar functionality can be tied
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> same key: for example  shorpt press to read out the tripmetre, long
>>>>>>> press
>>>>>>> to toggle the state of int and shitfed press to reset the tripmetre.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another feature is for  manual route creation:  when user approaches
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> turning point there could be a   single keystroke command to adde
>>>>>>> following information to the checkpoint loist:
>>>>>>> - Sequence number, blank padded to ease sorting them.
>>>>>>> - Turining instruction, both relative and cardinal
>>>>>>> - Name of nearest point to the comment field. If there is not point
>>>>>>> nearby
>>>>>>> leave the comment field blank.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To thet the new direction from tthe  checkpoint LS have to wait
>>>>>>> untinl
>>>>>>> user has moved certain distance (10 - 20 meters) from the checked
>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> there also could be  a shortcut key for this purpose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Checkpoints will look like this, spaces int  the sequence number are
>>>>>>> marked as underscores. Added comments in parenthesis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ___1 to northwest (home door)
>>>>>>> ___2 ahead to northwest (mailbox)
>>>>>>> ___3 turn left to east (examplestreet 8)
>>>>>>> ___4 turn left to north (examplestreet / mainstreet)
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> __15 turn right to west (street 2 /street 3)
>>>>>>> __16 destination (shop)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If user is standing still when entering the checkpoint there will be
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> relative instruction, only the cardinal direction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shceme is similar to gosmore-base route planner i'm working for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> mr. M01510 & guide Loadstone-GPS
>>>>>>> hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020
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