[Loadstone] suggestion for loadstone tools

Kerry Hoath kerry at gotss.net
Thu May 27 16:08:12 BST 2010

Whilst these are good ideas a couple of things stand in the way of this 
dream ap.
Firstly you need diskspace and server cpu time to convert the data unless 
this stuff was done on your local machine after files are received from the 

A way would need to be found so that users could accept the license of the 
various data sets, merging data from all sets could bypass users accepting 
specific eulas.

Naming the files would be tricky you'd almost need some rule based way of 
doing it, certainly worth consideration.

Also it needs to be noted that programmers are in the minority and unless 
others step up to the plate I can't see who would do this coding.
If anyone on the loadstone team took time away from ls then this would 
stretch the development cycle causing more user unhappiness.

Still good ideas though.
Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JULIE PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] suggestion for loadstone tools

> oh I like this idea it would make things very easy and get everything you 
> want in one big step.
> Julie Phillipson
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Josh" <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
> To: "loadstone list" <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:48 AM
> Subject: [Loadstone] suggestion for loadstone tools
>> Hi
>> I have a suggestion for the loadstone offline tools, and the loadstone 
>> command line tools createdby Lex I believe his name is.
>> If a programmer out there can make my suggestion a reality it would make 
>> it much much easier for newbies to download maps and points of interest 
>> for their areas.
>> Ok, lets combine the open streetmaps converter, the google route 
>> generater, and the command line database importer mklsdb program with a 
>> file zip/unzip utility. Let me give you an example of how the  tool would 
>> work. You wantt a map and points of interest for a specific address.
>> 1. go to the map-maker tool lets call it map-maker for now. It'll be a 
>> link, it'll be an offline tool that accesses internet for google route 
>> and pois generator and to get the openstreetmap data.
>> 2. enter your address, hit next button on website.
>> 3. it asks you how big of a radius, lets enter 99km.
>> 4. hit next.
>> 5. It asks you if you wish to plan a route and or add points of interest 
>> from groute, now? yes or no button. hit yes.
>> 6. enter starting and ending address. do the route planner in the normal 
>> way. then hit next. it asks you if you want to add another route or more 
>> points of interest from google route, if you hit yes it'll let you do 
>> more, adding separate files and storeing them for zipping, later. you can 
>> do as much as you want, adding different addresses, zip codes, points of 
>> interest, countries and so on.
>> 7. when done, hit finnish.
>> 8. now sit back and wait a while. now a download page comes up asking you 
>> to download maps.zip. while you wait the tool takes the following 
>> actions. it separates the database ffiles and checkpoints files 
>> containing any routes you may have fed it, into their own folders in 
>> preparation for zipping, later. the wizard also has buttons for adding 
>> nokia maps files csv files and stuff for conversion into databases.
>> ok so you ggave it all the info you want to. now as you wait the tool 
>> separates checkpoints from databases, it takes the databases and imports 
>> all of them into binary databases that loadstone can read. now after its 
>> done doing that, it takes the maps folder containing both the original 
>> text and binary files, unless you told the wizard to delete the text 
>> databases, it takes the folder full of all the databases, and the folder 
>> full of all your checkpoint route files you entered, and sticks them in a 
>> zip file then gives you the download link. to make it even easier to put 
>> maps routes and points of interest in your phone, it names the databases 
>> folder, and checkpoints folder the correct names so all you do is copy 
>> and overwrite the folders already there inside the phone.
>> file names:
>> this super loadstone tool names files like this. streetmaps are given a 
>> name based on the address you entered. it names the files based on the 
>> city, if none exists then it uses address line one as the file name. if 
>> only a zip is given it uses that like reading.txt or 19988.txt . or 
>> reading-pois.txt so you know that file contains points of interest from 
>> groute. I am not a programmer, nor do I have the time as I'll be in 
>> school very soon. oh and also the wizard lets you combine several 
>> databases into one big database before converting to loadstone binary. I 
>> think such a tool would greatly simplify streetmap data importing and 
>> points of interest gathering. it would make it much simpler.
>> Josh
>> -- 
>> Josh Kennedy jkenn337 at gmail.com
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