[Loadstone] Loadstone Digest, Vol 45, Issue 8

johnvi javier johnvij at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 11 22:52:24 GMT 2010


    if we have enough member we can contribute for some amount or just wait 
for the publisher ID.  Still this will be the decision of the developer of 
Loadstone.
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>   1. Re:  new loadstone gps? (maning sambale)
>   2. Re:  new loadstone gps? (monty at loadstone-gps.com)
>   3. Re:  new loadstone gps? (Elliott Barnes)
>   4. Re:  new loadstone gps? (Elliott Barnes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:59:55 +0800
> From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
> Message-ID:
> <f902f9841003110359q6696f892j8c56f8bdd21c103b at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> Or, we organize a fundraising to cover the cost?
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Shawn Kirkpatrick
> <shawn at loadstone-gps.com> wrote:
>> Releasing an unsigned program just causes problems. First, not everyone 
>> will
>> be able to sign it so the list will get flooded with questions of how to
>> sign the program. Then, there will be confusion as the users who manage 
>> to
>> run the new version start enquiring about features not available to the 
>> rest
>> of the users. This is not the situation we want, a split user base. We'll
>> just have to wait until we can get a publisher id and then release a 
>> version
>> that all users can run.
>> If there are any real beta testers out there they can always download the
>> source code from svn and compile it themselves.
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, ?mer Yesiltas wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, i aggree, you can release an unsigned program. Some programs like
>>> fexplorer etc are always released as unsigned. users sign it themselves.
>>> websitemiz
>>> www.cepdenizi.net
>>> a?ilmistir. cep telefonlariyla ilgili genis i?erige sahip olan sitemize
>>> bekleriz.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gianfranco Giudice" <g.giudice at balcab.ch>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Monty
>>>>
>>>> As Loadstone is OpenSource, why don't you release a beta build without
>>>> Publisher ID?
>>>> Some of us can sign the app with our own Certs and Keys.
>>>>
>>>> Gian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>> monty at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:53 AM
>>>>> To: loadstone list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me clear up some misconceptions relating to the next
>>>>> release of Loadstone GPS and the status of the project.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. ?We do not have a new version of Loadstone GPS ready for
>>>>> public consumption. ?It needs to go through further testing
>>>>> before it can be released to the general population.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. ?It will be released - it's definitely not a question of "if".
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. ?It will be released as soon as we get a new publisher ID.
>>>>> ?Publisher ID's are used to compile publically ?available
>>>>> .sis files used to install Symbian applications. ?They are
>>>>> valid for one year and need to be purchased by a
>>>>> company/charidy. ?Last year the RNIB sponsered our Publisher
>>>>> ID and they have offered in principle to do the same this year.
>>>>> At this point it's a matter of hearing back from them when
>>>>> the purchase has gone through.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. ?The Loadstone GPS project is *NOT DEAD* and has the
>>>>> status it always has had ?and will continue to be a viable
>>>>> project with a vibrant user community.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. ?As has been previously mentioned (a number of times), we
>>>>> will let users know when the next release is available both
>>>>> on this list and via the website. ?It's not as if we plan on
>>>>> doing it in secret!
>>>>>
>>>>> Appologies for any misleading comments made earlier.
>>>>>
>>>>> Monty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ?On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Shawn Kirkpatrick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a new version of loadstone but we have no idea if or when
>>>>>> it'll be released. We've been trying to renew our publisher
>>>>>
>>>>> id but have had no luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without this the project is pretty much dead. If we get the
>>>>>
>>>>> publisher
>>>>>>
>>>>>> id renewed then we could release a new version after some
>>>>>
>>>>> beta testing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Josh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any news on the new version of loadstone gps?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Kennedy jkenn337 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> my blog is at http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net (updated frequently).
>>>>>>> Tired of Microsoft Windows and paying thousands for
>>>>>
>>>>> screen-readers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> try out NVDA, get a mac--, nvda--for Windows, or try out
>>>>>
>>>>> and switch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to grml, Ubuntu, Vinux, or knoppix-adriane Linux desktops. Knoppix
>>>>>>> ubuntu and vinux-cli-max are the most accessible for
>>>>>
>>>>> beginners. also
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> try vinux-gui and encourage those at www.cherrypal.com to use
>>>>>>> windows-xp and nvda knoppix-adriane Vinux-cli-max or grml
>>>>>
>>>>> so all blind people can have an accessible computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
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>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> cheers,
> maning
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:41:10 +0000 (GMT)
> From: monty at loadstone-gps.com
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1003111635550.17751 at zvyyraavhz.op.pk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> Hello,
>
> Cost is part of it so fund raising is important but the bigger problem is
> qualifying to be able to purchase one.  (lots of specific documentation)
>
> If you want to look at this for yourself, check out:
>
> http://www.trustcenter.de/en/.../tc_publisher_id_for_symbian.htm
>
> The option we use is Expressed-signed.
>
> If anyone wants to work with us on this please Email me via the address in
> this message header.
>
> Best regards,
>   Monty
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, maning sambale wrote:
>
>> Or, we organize a fundraising to cover the cost?
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Shawn Kirkpatrick
>> <shawn at loadstone-gps.com> wrote:
>>> Releasing an unsigned program just causes problems. First, not everyone 
>>> will
>>> be able to sign it so the list will get flooded with questions of how to
>>> sign the program. Then, there will be confusion as the users who manage 
>>> to
>>> run the new version start enquiring about features not available to the 
>>> rest
>>> of the users. This is not the situation we want, a split user base. 
>>> We'll
>>> just have to wait until we can get a publisher id and then release a 
>>> version
>>> that all users can run.
>>> If there are any real beta testers out there they can always download 
>>> the
>>> source code from svn and compile it themselves.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, ?mer Yesiltas wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, i aggree, you can release an unsigned program. Some programs like
>>>> fexplorer etc are always released as unsigned. users sign it 
>>>> themselves.
>>>> websitemiz
>>>> www.cepdenizi.net
>>>> a?ilmistir. cep telefonlariyla ilgili genis i?erige sahip olan sitemize
>>>> bekleriz.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gianfranco Giudice" <g.giudice at balcab.ch>
>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Monty
>>>>>
>>>>> As Loadstone is OpenSource, why don't you release a beta build without
>>>>> Publisher ID?
>>>>> Some of us can sign the app with our own Certs and Keys.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> monty at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:53 AM
>>>>>> To: loadstone list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me clear up some misconceptions relating to the next
>>>>>> release of Loadstone GPS and the status of the project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. ?We do not have a new version of Loadstone GPS ready for
>>>>>> public consumption. ?It needs to go through further testing
>>>>>> before it can be released to the general population.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. ?It will be released - it's definitely not a question of "if".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. ?It will be released as soon as we get a new publisher ID.
>>>>>> ?Publisher ID's are used to compile publically ?available
>>>>>> .sis files used to install Symbian applications. ?They are
>>>>>> valid for one year and need to be purchased by a
>>>>>> company/charidy. ?Last year the RNIB sponsered our Publisher
>>>>>> ID and they have offered in principle to do the same this year.
>>>>>> At this point it's a matter of hearing back from them when
>>>>>> the purchase has gone through.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. ?The Loadstone GPS project is *NOT DEAD* and has the
>>>>>> status it always has had ?and will continue to be a viable
>>>>>> project with a vibrant user community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. ?As has been previously mentioned (a number of times), we
>>>>>> will let users know when the next release is available both
>>>>>> on this list and via the website. ?It's not as if we plan on
>>>>>> doing it in secret!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Appologies for any misleading comments made earlier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Monty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Shawn Kirkpatrick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have a new version of loadstone but we have no idea if or when
>>>>>>> it'll be released. We've been trying to renew our publisher
>>>>>>
>>>>>> id but have had no luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without this the project is pretty much dead. If we get the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> publisher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> id renewed then we could release a new version after some
>>>>>>
>>>>>> beta testing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Josh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any news on the new version of loadstone gps?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Kennedy jkenn337 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> my blog is at http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net (updated frequently).
>>>>>>>> Tired of Microsoft Windows and paying thousands for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> screen-readers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> try out NVDA, get a mac--, nvda--for Windows, or try out
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and switch
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to grml, Ubuntu, Vinux, or knoppix-adriane Linux desktops. Knoppix
>>>>>>>> ubuntu and vinux-cli-max are the most accessible for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> beginners. also
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> try vinux-gui and encourage those at www.cherrypal.com to use
>>>>>>>> windows-xp and nvda knoppix-adriane Vinux-cli-max or grml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so all blind people can have an accessible computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:06:24 +0000
> From: Elliott Barnes <elliottabarnes at googlemail.com>
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
> Message-ID:
> <460e3ec41003111006i22cb3327o1801d81f40eaed9a at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi,
> This link doesn't seem to work.
> Thanks.
>
> On 11/03/2010, monty at loadstone-gps.com <monty at loadstone-gps.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Cost is part of it so fund raising is important but the bigger problem is
>> qualifying to be able to purchase one.  (lots of specific documentation)
>>
>> If you want to look at this for yourself, check out:
>>
>> http://www.trustcenter.de/en/.../tc_publisher_id_for_symbian.htm
>>
>> The option we use is Expressed-signed.
>>
>> If anyone wants to work with us on this please Email me via the address 
>> in
>> this message header.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>    Monty
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, maning sambale wrote:
>>
>>> Or, we organize a fundraising to cover the cost?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Shawn Kirkpatrick
>>> <shawn at loadstone-gps.com> wrote:
>>>> Releasing an unsigned program just causes problems. First, not everyone
>>>> will
>>>> be able to sign it so the list will get flooded with questions of how 
>>>> to
>>>> sign the program. Then, there will be confusion as the users who manage
>>>> to
>>>> run the new version start enquiring about features not available to the
>>>> rest
>>>> of the users. This is not the situation we want, a split user base. 
>>>> We'll
>>>> just have to wait until we can get a publisher id and then release a
>>>> version
>>>> that all users can run.
>>>> If there are any real beta testers out there they can always download 
>>>> the
>>>> source code from svn and compile it themselves.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, ?mer Yesiltas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, i aggree, you can release an unsigned program. Some programs like
>>>>> fexplorer etc are always released as unsigned. users sign it 
>>>>> themselves.
>>>>> websitemiz
>>>>> www.cepdenizi.net
>>>>> a?ilmistir. cep telefonlariyla ilgili genis i?erige sahip olan 
>>>>> sitemize
>>>>> bekleriz.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Gianfranco Giudice" <g.giudice at balcab.ch>
>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Monty
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As Loadstone is OpenSource, why don't you release a beta build 
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> Publisher ID?
>>>>>> Some of us can sign the app with our own Certs and Keys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> monty at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:53 AM
>>>>>>> To: loadstone list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me clear up some misconceptions relating to the next
>>>>>>> release of Loadstone GPS and the status of the project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. ?We do not have a new version of Loadstone GPS ready for
>>>>>>> public consumption. ?It needs to go through further testing
>>>>>>> before it can be released to the general population.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. ?It will be released - it's definitely not a question of "if".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. ?It will be released as soon as we get a new publisher ID.
>>>>>>> ?Publisher ID's are used to compile publically ?available
>>>>>>> .sis files used to install Symbian applications. ?They are
>>>>>>> valid for one year and need to be purchased by a
>>>>>>> company/charidy. ?Last year the RNIB sponsered our Publisher
>>>>>>> ID and they have offered in principle to do the same this year.
>>>>>>> At this point it's a matter of hearing back from them when
>>>>>>> the purchase has gone through.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. ?The Loadstone GPS project is *NOT DEAD* and has the
>>>>>>> status it always has had ?and will continue to be a viable
>>>>>>> project with a vibrant user community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. ?As has been previously mentioned (a number of times), we
>>>>>>> will let users know when the next release is available both
>>>>>>> on this list and via the website. ?It's not as if we plan on
>>>>>>> doing it in secret!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Appologies for any misleading comments made earlier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Monty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ?On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Shawn Kirkpatrick wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have a new version of loadstone but we have no idea if or when
>>>>>>>> it'll be released. We've been trying to renew our publisher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> id but have had no luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Without this the project is pretty much dead. If we get the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> publisher
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> id renewed then we could release a new version after some
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> beta testing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Josh wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any news on the new version of loadstone gps?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Kennedy jkenn337 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> my blog is at http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net (updated frequently).
>>>>>>>>> Tired of Microsoft Windows and paying thousands for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> screen-readers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> try out NVDA, get a mac--, nvda--for Windows, or try out
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and switch
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to grml, Ubuntu, Vinux, or knoppix-adriane Linux desktops. Knoppix
>>>>>>>>> ubuntu and vinux-cli-max are the most accessible for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> beginners. also
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> try vinux-gui and encourage those at www.cherrypal.com to use
>>>>>>>>> windows-xp and nvda knoppix-adriane Vinux-cli-max or grml
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so all blind people can have an accessible computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:10:34 +0000
> From: Elliott Barnes <elliottabarnes at googlemail.com>
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
> Message-ID:
> <460e3ec41003111010n23fecba7q3c31167e73d01bc9 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi,
> For anyone interested, the correct link is:
> http://www.trustcenter.de/en/products/tc_publisher_id_for_symbian.htm
>>From what I cna tell, the cert would cost $200, so if all of us on the
> list could chip in a bit of money I really think we could get there.
>
> On 11/03/2010, Elliott Barnes <elliottabarnes at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> This link doesn't seem to work.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 11/03/2010, monty at loadstone-gps.com <monty at loadstone-gps.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Cost is part of it so fund raising is important but the bigger problem 
>>> is
>>> qualifying to be able to purchase one.  (lots of specific documentation)
>>>
>>> If you want to look at this for yourself, check out:
>>>
>>> http://www.trustcenter.de/en/.../tc_publisher_id_for_symbian.htm
>>>
>>> The option we use is Expressed-signed.
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to work with us on this please Email me via the address
>>> in
>>> this message header.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>    Monty
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, maning sambale wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or, we organize a fundraising to cover the cost?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Shawn Kirkpatrick
>>>> <shawn at loadstone-gps.com> wrote:
>>>>> Releasing an unsigned program just causes problems. First, not 
>>>>> everyone
>>>>> will
>>>>> be able to sign it so the list will get flooded with questions of how
>>>>> to
>>>>> sign the program. Then, there will be confusion as the users who 
>>>>> manage
>>>>> to
>>>>> run the new version start enquiring about features not available to 
>>>>> the
>>>>> rest
>>>>> of the users. This is not the situation we want, a split user base.
>>>>> We'll
>>>>> just have to wait until we can get a publisher id and then release a
>>>>> version
>>>>> that all users can run.
>>>>> If there are any real beta testers out there they can always download
>>>>> the
>>>>> source code from svn and compile it themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, ?mer Yesiltas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, i aggree, you can release an unsigned program. Some programs like
>>>>>> fexplorer etc are always released as unsigned. users sign it
>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>> websitemiz
>>>>>> www.cepdenizi.net
>>>>>> a?ilmistir. cep telefonlariyla ilgili genis i?erige sahip olan
>>>>>> sitemize
>>>>>> bekleriz.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Gianfranco Giudice" <g.giudice at balcab.ch>
>>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:19 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Monty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Loadstone is OpenSource, why don't you release a beta build
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> Publisher ID?
>>>>>>> Some of us can sign the app with our own Certs and Keys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> monty at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:53 AM
>>>>>>>> To: loadstone list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] new loadstone gps?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me clear up some misconceptions relating to the next
>>>>>>>> release of Loadstone GPS and the status of the project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. ?We do not have a new version of Loadstone GPS ready for
>>>>>>>> public consumption. ?It needs to go through further testing
>>>>>>>> before it can be released to the general population.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. ?It will be released - it's definitely not a question of "if".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3. ?It will be released as soon as we get a new publisher ID.
>>>>>>>> ?Publisher ID's are used to compile publically ?available
>>>>>>>> .sis files used to install Symbian applications. ?They are
>>>>>>>> valid for one year and need to be purchased by a
>>>>>>>> company/charidy. ?Last year the RNIB sponsered our Publisher
>>>>>>>> ID and they have offered in principle to do the same this year.
>>>>>>>> At this point it's a matter of hearing back from them when
>>>>>>>> the purchase has gone through.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4. ?The Loadstone GPS project is *NOT DEAD* and has the
>>>>>>>> status it always has had ?and will continue to be a viable
>>>>>>>> project with a vibrant user community.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5. ?As has been previously mentioned (a number of times), we
>>>>>>>> will let users know when the next release is available both
>>>>>>>> on this list and via the website. ?It's not as if we plan on
>>>>>>>> doing it in secret!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Appologies for any misleading comments made earlier.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Monty
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ?On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Shawn Kirkpatrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have a new version of loadstone but we have no idea if or when
>>>>>>>>> it'll be released. We've been trying to renew our publisher
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> id but have had no luck.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Without this the project is pretty much dead. If we get the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> publisher
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> id renewed then we could release a new version after some
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> beta testing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Josh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any news on the new version of loadstone gps?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Josh Kennedy jkenn337 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> my blog is at http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net (updated 
>>>>>>>>>> frequently).
>>>>>>>>>> Tired of Microsoft Windows and paying thousands for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> screen-readers?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> try out NVDA, get a mac--, nvda--for Windows, or try out
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and switch
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to grml, Ubuntu, Vinux, or knoppix-adriane Linux desktops. 
>>>>>>>>>> Knoppix
>>>>>>>>>> ubuntu and vinux-cli-max are the most accessible for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> beginners. also
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> try vinux-gui and encourage those at www.cherrypal.com to use
>>>>>>>>>> windows-xp and nvda knoppix-adriane Vinux-cli-max or grml
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so all blind people can have an accessible computer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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