[Loadstone] Loadstone PointShare/gRoute and databases

Jerry Matheny starnoble at gmail.com
Mon Jul 19 18:11:20 BST 2010

I think the issue with us not getting many points is two-fold;
Loadstone is only on Symbian. I'm sure if it was available on other
platforms then there would be a much larger points and thus more
points. And another, there really hasn't been much discussion of the
best way to upload to Point Share Exchange. I'm guessing there isn't
really a universal accepted way to label points? I noticed that about
Open Street Map is that they are generally real good about labeling
points in the same way so that it is possible to search for
restaurants for example. I kind of wonder if Loadstone just adopting
the Open Street Map method would be best as there seems to be much
more data in that format, although there are a lot of duplicate points
for the same place which can make things confusing. I usually end up
importing an OSM database and then just using the points I wanted
anyway. So not really sure what the best idea would be.

Sorry for this rambely message, but just trying to get these thoughts
out there to get opinions.

The other thing is check lists. It's so hard to have to go through
databases and check points. I guess check points are seperate from the
database? meaning the point doesn't have to be present in both. Or
does the same point have to be in the database so that it is
searchable? That allways kind of confused me. What's the best way to
handle all this confusion? Maybe a podcast of dealing with all this
would be beneficial to all of us, then we'd all use everything we

Thanks for developing Loadstone. Even with as little as I know
Loadstone has still helped me.

On 7/19/10, Ketan Kothari <muktaketan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Monty,
> I am in India and was using WFA earlier.  Now I want to use loadstone and I
> find documentation quite cumbersome.  Please do help me by giving me only 10
> minutes on skype to explain basics so that I can use it.  Please help.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <monty at loadstone-gps.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:09 PM
> Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone PointShare/gRoute and databases
>> Hello All,
>> While I was away it seems like there has been a lot of chatter regarding
>> sources of Loadstone-compatible point resources and I thought I would
>> clarify a few things - clearing up misinformation that I often see on this
>> list.
>> There is only 1 officially supported points repository for Loadstone and
>> it  is called the Loadstone PointShare.
>> There are two ways of accessing the Loadstone PointShare:
>> 1.  Visit: http://www.pse.loadstone-gps.com
>> 2.  Access via the Loadstone-GPS web site
>> The Loadstone PointShare contains points of interest from around the
>> world.  It is populated by you the users ((if nobody shares then nobody
>> benefits).  Some users (including members of the Loadstone development
>> team) have supplied large datasets of points.  These include all road
>> intersections in Canada and the USA, all transportation stops in the
>> United Kingdom and thousands of personally created points.  I happen to
>> know that most of you (yes, even some of you that periotically complain
>> have not been good little boys and girls and have not shared your
>> points) - I can include myself in this category at times too!
>> Is there room for improvement on the Loadstone PointShare?  Yes, there's
>> loads of room for improvement.  A group of volunteers has been setup to
>> deal with this but lacks leadership and direction at the moment so if
>> anyone would like to help then please let me know.
>> gRoute and Open StreetMap are not officially supported at this time and
>> officially have nothing to do with Loadstone.  This might change in the
>> future but this is the way it is for now.
>> It very much surprises me that so many people over-look the points
>> available to them  from the Loadstone PointShare.  I realise information
>> is a bit thin on the ground in most areas of the world  (I myself live in
>> a country that isn't well-served by the PointShare) but many Loadstone
>> users live in Canada and the USA and have access to very good information.
>> Remember that Loadstone does not replace good mobility skills.  The
>> original intended purpose was for you to mark points along a route when
>> going somewhere for the first time and then using Loadstone to help during
>> subsequent trips.
>> Now, with the Internet users can acquire the coordinates for an intended
>> destination  (on their PC or through Loadstone's newly supported onLine
>> tool  menu) and plan a route prior to going on it.  In fact to prove how
>> well this works, last week I was in London (a city that I don't live in
>> and am not hugely familiar with the streets/areas etc) and I spent the day
>> independantly wandering around - using Loadstone to guide me with the help
>> of some points of interest from GoogleMaps.  It was a pleasant experience
>> and I'm still here to write about it!
>> We continue to put effort into the Online tools area in Loadstone and I
>> hope to  get time in the near future to continue working on scripts that
>> can be used in the OnLine tool menu.
>> Thanks, and I hope this clears up some confusio.
>> Monty
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