[Loadstone] To the grout author, are there any plans to open source grout?

Ketan Kothari muktaketan at gmail.com
Fri Jul 9 17:08:30 BST 2010


I can but my questions are basic.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Randall" <seanr at randylaptop.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] To the grout author,are there any plans to open 
source grout?


> Might I suggest that you pose your questions here so everyone can benefit
> from the answers?
>
> I'm sure others would be willing to reply were they able, giving you 
> monty's
> input as well as anybody else who's capable and willing.
>
> Sean.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010. 04:14 PM
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] To the grout author,are there any plans to open
> source grout?
>
> Dear Monty,
>
> I am in India and wish to use loadstone.  I am thoroughly confused about 
> it.
>
> Could you arrange 10 minutes to help?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <monty at loadstone-gps.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] To the grout author, are there any plans to open
> source grout?
>
>
>> Hello Grzegorz, and all,
>>
>> It is nice to see the community developing applications, tools and
>> solutions to enhance the usefulness of Loadstone.  Community involvement
>> is something we feel quite strongly about.
>>
>> The current issues faced by the gRoute folks are issues we the Loadstone
>> development team also have had and continue to have.  There are at least
>> two issues with using Google maps.
>>
>> 1.  There is a limit to how many addresses (or points of interests) a
>> particular IP address can access per day.  This is the problem that 
>> gRoute
>
>> encountered.
>>
>> 2.  There is a bit of a legal grey area when it comes to mobile devices
>> accessing real-time map data from Google maps.  I will let people far 
>> more
>
>> qualified than I to comment on this but it certainly is a concern.
>>
>> I think having folks register for the gRoute service is probably a good
>> idea so the script can keep track of who is using it and how many 
>> requests
>
>> are being generated.  You could then lets say as an example limit the
>> number of address lookups to 1 per minute and 60 per day per user and 
>> keep
>
>> within the daily query limits per IP.
>>
>> Alternatively, there might be a way to have the script execute javascript
>> on the phone which will originate the Google Maps query from the phone's
>> IP rather than a particular server's IP.
>>
>> Of course there are also ways to make a script only accessible by mobile
>> devices rather than
>> any random machine on the Internet.
>>
>> I think open-sourcing the script would be a good idea.  This will allow
>> others to improve it plus make any decisions regarding hosting a service.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>   Monty
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Grzegorz Zlotowicz wrote:
>>
>>> Hello and Sorry for the delay with answer.
>>> I have no idea what to do with the groute - i wrote this tool for fun 
>>> one
>>> friday and the society interest is more i expected...
>>> I can of course make source code available for public, but in context of
>>> last abuse of our server by the turkish site - Mikolaj wrote about it
>>> some
>>> time ago - in this context I don't know is it a good move.
>>>> From one point of view it is nice that this simple tool serves 
>>>> Loadstone
>>> users, but from the other side the fact that somebody wants to steal all
>>> map
>>> data from Google using it can lead to situation that Google will change
>>> the
>>> query interface or make an other moves leading to stopping the groute
>>> mechanism.
>>> I don't want such changes to be connected in any way with Loadstone
>>> initiative or blind community in any aspect.
>>> Maybe the best sollution is to wait until end of work of pointshare
>>> group,
>>> and integrate the tool in the authorised way into the pointshare site? I
>>> don't know.
>>> So, as in the beginning of this tool, I'd like to hear from community
>>> what
>>> to do with it - it would be nice if people from the Loadstone-gps team
>>> would
>>> say a word about it too.
>>> Greetings, Greg.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jared Stofflett" 
>>> <stofflet at gmail.com>
>>> To: "loadstone" <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:09 PM
>>> Subject: [Loadstone] To the grout author,are there any plans to open
>>> source
>>> grout?
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if the grout author is still on this list but figure this
>>>> is the best place to try. With the issues people have been having and
>>>> the limited availibility of grout I was wondering if it would be
>>>> possible to open source grout so multiple servers can be run and
>>>> technically inclined individuals can run there own copy?
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