[Loadstone] To the grout author, are there any plans to open source grout?

Ketan Kothari muktaketan at gmail.com
Fri Jul 9 16:14:18 BST 2010


Dear Monty,

I am in India and wish to use loadstone.  I am thoroughly confused about it. 
Could you arrange 10 minutes to help?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <monty at loadstone-gps.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] To the grout author, are there any plans to open 
source grout?


> Hello Grzegorz, and all,
>
> It is nice to see the community developing applications, tools and 
> solutions to enhance the usefulness of Loadstone.  Community involvement 
> is something we feel quite strongly about.
>
> The current issues faced by the gRoute folks are issues we the Loadstone 
> development team also have had and continue to have.  There are at least 
> two issues with using Google maps.
>
> 1.  There is a limit to how many addresses (or points of interests) a 
> particular IP address can access per day.  This is the problem that gRoute 
> encountered.
>
> 2.  There is a bit of a legal grey area when it comes to mobile devices 
> accessing real-time map data from Google maps.  I will let people far more 
> qualified than I to comment on this but it certainly is a concern.
>
> I think having folks register for the gRoute service is probably a good 
> idea so the script can keep track of who is using it and how many requests 
> are being generated.  You could then lets say as an example limit the 
> number of address lookups to 1 per minute and 60 per day per user and keep 
> within the daily query limits per IP.
>
> Alternatively, there might be a way to have the script execute javascript 
> on the phone which will originate the Google Maps query from the phone's 
> IP rather than a particular server's IP.
>
> Of course there are also ways to make a script only accessible by mobile 
> devices rather than
> any random machine on the Internet.
>
> I think open-sourcing the script would be a good idea.  This will allow 
> others to improve it plus make any decisions regarding hosting a service.
>
> Best regards,
>   Monty
>
>
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Grzegorz Zlotowicz wrote:
>
>> Hello and Sorry for the delay with answer.
>> I have no idea what to do with the groute - i wrote this tool for fun one
>> friday and the society interest is more i expected...
>> I can of course make source code available for public, but in context of
>> last abuse of our server by the turkish site - Mikolaj wrote about it 
>> some
>> time ago - in this context I don't know is it a good move.
>>> From one point of view it is nice that this simple tool serves Loadstone
>> users, but from the other side the fact that somebody wants to steal all 
>> map
>> data from Google using it can lead to situation that Google will change 
>> the
>> query interface or make an other moves leading to stopping the groute
>> mechanism.
>> I don't want such changes to be connected in any way with Loadstone
>> initiative or blind community in any aspect.
>> Maybe the best sollution is to wait until end of work of pointshare 
>> group,
>> and integrate the tool in the authorised way into the pointshare site? I
>> don't know.
>> So, as in the beginning of this tool, I'd like to hear from community 
>> what
>> to do with it - it would be nice if people from the Loadstone-gps team 
>> would
>> say a word about it too.
>> Greetings, Greg.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jared Stofflett" <stofflet at gmail.com>
>> To: "loadstone" <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:09 PM
>> Subject: [Loadstone] To the grout author,are there any plans to open 
>> source
>> grout?
>>
>>
>>> I'm not sure if the grout author is still on this list but figure this
>>> is the best place to try. With the issues people have been having and
>>> the limited availibility of grout I was wondering if it would be
>>> possible to open source grout so multiple servers can be run and
>>> technically inclined individuals can run there own copy?
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