[Loadstone] Internal gps

Shawn Kirkpatrick shawn at loadstone-gps.com
Tue Jan 26 05:24:04 GMT 2010


This is just gps drift and is perfectly normal. Your sighted gps program 
might be designed more for driving so may ignore small changes in position. 
This drift will be worse if you're getting a weaker signal so it will 
probably be worse on the internal receiver than a good external receiver.

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010, Kit wrote:

> Hi Shawn,
>
> I don't really mind of the accuracy issue when using internal gps since it's
> free.  What I cannot understand is that when I stop moving, or when the
> vehicle I am in stop moving, the positioning in my phone will change.  I
> have tested this even without my moving the slightest bit.  What is in front
> will move to the back; at times, what is left becomes right.  I have changed
> the Static number 0 to higher, 5. Doesn't help, changes still happen.  This
> happen in loadstone but in my sighted gps program, the position stayed the
> same.
>
> Do you think this has got to do with internal gps issues or even with
> external it will happen?  I have read through the help documents and cannot
> find any solution for it.
>
> Thanks for any advice,
> KITT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" <shawn at loadstone-gps.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Internal gps
>
>
> As far as I know all the current internal gps receivers are of the same
> type. This will of course change at some point so if unsure try looking up
> the specs for your phone model, if there's an improved gps receiver I'm sure
> they'll list that.
>
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010, Kit wrote:
>
>> Hi Shawn,
>>
>> How about N79? is it the same range or same type of internal gps chip?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> KITT
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Shawn Kirkpatrick
>>  To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:47 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Internal gps
>>
>>
>>  Let me clear up the information on the internal gps receiver.
>>  This receiver uses the sirf*ii chipset, a rather old chipset from around
>>  2004 or so. This being the case the receiver will take longer to acquire
>> a
>>  signal and will have a harder time holding it. The accuracy on these
>>  receivers isn't bad but anyone claiming a 1 metre accuracy is just wrong,
>>  this isn't going to happen even if the receiver is using waas/egnos
>>  correction. The waas/egnos setting in loadstone has absolutely no effect
>> on
>>  the internal gps receiver since this receiver is read-only loadstone
>> can't
>>  send any commands to it.
>>  You do not have to start nokia maps or any other application to activate
>> the
>>  receiver, loadstone does this itself. If people are noticing that this
>> gives
>>  them a signal faster maybe it's because the other programs are using agps
>>  instead of gps.
>>  Agps will help to get the initial signal faster and if you have a data
>> plan
>>  and want this then agps is the thing to use. This is all agps does, it's
>> not
>>  a real-time gps correction system.
>>  According to the nokia manual for best gps receiver performance do the
>>  following: start using the gps receiver with a clear view of the sky,
>> this
>>  means outside, not indoors. You'll also want to be standing still for
>> best
>>  results. Hold the phone at a 45 degree angle, if the phone has a slide
>> such
>>  as on the n95 then open it. On the n95 the gps receiver is located under
>> the
>>  0 key, on the n82 the gps receiver is located closer to the top of the
>>  phone. Then wait until a signal is acquired. Sometimes this can take
>> quite a
>>  long time. Once a signal is acquired the receiver should hold it but this
>>  will depend on other conditions that effect gps signals. If you are using
>>  the n95 closing the slide may result in the receiver losing signal more
>>  often.
>>  It's been reported that the receiver on the n82 works better than the one
>> on
>>  the n95. This is probably because of the different location of the
>> receiver,
>>  as far as anyone knows they're the same hardware.
>>
>>  On Sun, 24 Jan 2010, Ari Moisio wrote:
>>
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I have noticed that LS can alone activate the internal receiver of N82,
>> no
>> > need to run Maps or any other application. However ability to share the
>> > internal gps is a nice feature.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > mr. M01510 & guide Loadstone-GPS
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010, Jacob Kruger wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do you run nokia maps and loadstone at the same time?
>> >>
>> >> As in start nokia maps, and then hit something like hang up key to put
>> it
>> >> in background, or just enter menu system and start loadstone, so
>> they're
>> >> both running at same time?
>> >>
>> >> If this makes GPS accuracy better will have to try it out on my N82,
>> since
>> >> currently just start nokia maps first, wait a bit and kill it after
>> it's
>> >> definitely activated the GPS internal unit and then start loadstone.
>> >>
>> >> Stay well
>> >>
>> >> Jacob Kruger
>> >> Blind Biker
>> >> Skype: BlindZA
>> >> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kwagga productions"
>> >> <kwaggapro at vodamail.co.za>
>> >> To: "Loadstone request" <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:31 AM
>> >> Subject: [Loadstone] Internal gps
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Hi the problem isnt with your gps. Load nokia maps in the background.
>> >>> Loadstone doesnt activate well with the internal gps systems on n95
>> and
>> >>> 66. I tested these phones and got the same problem on both. When u
>> run
>> >>> maps loadstone is accurit with in 1 meter. The guys at loadstone need
>> to
>> >>> sort that out so that loadstone can activate the internal gps. It
>> works
>> >>> like a bomb on the external systems but u need a program like nokia
>> maps
>> >>> to start your internal gps. I know thats a bother.
>> >>>
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