From jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com  Sun Aug  1 03:54:33 2010
From: jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com (Jeff Kenyon)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:54:33 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
In-Reply-To: <20100731214137.GA15952@hittsjunk.net>
References: <921169562.20100731095944@dekadent.net><5BD1926080F640F1A7E7D770873927E3@TEST2><7547476406.20100731225131@dekadent.net><8457F552F4114E2A8505BFE309C6B580@JeffsPC>
	<20100731214137.GA15952@hittsjunk.net>
Message-ID: <623489EFDE61418B9392EDEF0D499FBC@JeffsPC>

What source and how can you run it?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


> Hi.  Why don't you just download the source and run it locally?  That way,
> you don't need to worry about passwords.
>
>          Kenny
>
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 04:56:21PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>> Has anyone gotten a user id/password? I sent in a request for that
>> some time ago and nothing.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie"
>> <charlie at loadstone-gps.com>
>> To: "Grzegorz Zlotowicz" <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>
>>
>> >Grzegorz Zlotowicz <grzezlo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>i wrote the groute tool one friday's afternoon and hoped to forget 
>> >>about
>> >>it, unfortunately things went in an other way... So i decided to make
>> >>source code finally available for loadstone users.
>> >
>> >Many thanks! So I'll try to set it up and get it running on my own
>> >webserver. Of course I'm a fool in php, but maybe I find someone to 
>> >assist
>> >me regarding this groute tool.
>> >
>> >regards,
>> >Bert
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >Loadstone mailing list
>> >Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> >http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>>
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From kenny at hittsjunk.net  Sun Aug  1 13:37:13 2010
From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 07:37:13 -0500
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
In-Reply-To: <623489EFDE61418B9392EDEF0D499FBC@JeffsPC>
References: <921169562.20100731095944@dekadent.net>
	<5BD1926080F640F1A7E7D770873927E3@TEST2>
	<7547476406.20100731225131@dekadent.net>
	<8457F552F4114E2A8505BFE309C6B580@JeffsPC>
	<20100731214137.GA15952@hittsjunk.net>
	<623489EFDE61418B9392EDEF0D499FBC@JeffsPC>
Message-ID: <20100801123713.GA19152@hittsjunk.net>

Hi.
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
> What source and how can you run it?


Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In that post (the one you first replyed to),
there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.

          kenny


From tim at dvlop.nl  Sun Aug  1 15:20:43 2010
From: tim at dvlop.nl (Tim in 't Veld)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:20:43 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
In-Reply-To: <20100801123713.GA19152@hittsjunk.net>
References: <921169562.20100731095944@dekadent.net>	<5BD1926080F640F1A7E7D770873927E3@TEST2>	<7547476406.20100731225131@dekadent.net>	<8457F552F4114E2A8505BFE309C6B580@JeffsPC>	<20100731214137.GA15952@hittsjunk.net>	<623489EFDE61418B9392EDEF0D499FBC@JeffsPC>
	<20100801123713.GA19152@hittsjunk.net>
Message-ID: <000f01cb3184$b9dd18f0$2d974ad0$@nl>

Menno, 
Ik heb mennoschaap terug gezet, msheep staat nog op admin rechten. Je kunt
dit ook zelf beheren door als admin in te loggen, kies special pages, user
rights management. Voor meer informatie zie de mediawiki help.
Ik stel overigens voor het admin acount zo min mogelijk te gebruiken maar
wijzigingen zo veel mogelijk via onze eigen acounts door te voeren. Dan
blijft duidelijk wie wat doet.
Tim 
Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt
Sent: zondag 1 augustus 2010 14:37
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?

Hi.
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
> What source and how can you run it?


Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In that post
(the one you first replyed to),
there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.

          kenny

_______________________________________________
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From tim at dvlop.nl  Sun Aug  1 15:59:49 2010
From: tim at dvlop.nl (Tim in 't Veld)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:59:49 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
In-Reply-To: <000f01cb3184$b9dd18f0$2d974ad0$@nl>
References: <921169562.20100731095944@dekadent.net>	<5BD1926080F640F1A7E7D770873927E3@TEST2>	<7547476406.20100731225131@dekadent.net>	<8457F552F4114E2A8505BFE309C6B580@JeffsPC>	<20100731214137.GA15952@hittsjunk.net>	<623489EFDE61418B9392EDEF0D499FBC@JeffsPC>	<20100801123713.GA19152@hittsjunk.net>
	<000f01cb3184$b9dd18f0$2d974ad0$@nl>
Message-ID: <000001cb318a$309dd8d0$91d98a70$@nl>

Sorry erronious addressing... 

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Tim in 't Veld
Sent: zondag 1 augustus 2010 16:21
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?

Menno, 
Ik heb mennoschaap terug gezet, msheep staat nog op admin rechten. Je kunt
dit ook zelf beheren door als admin in te loggen, kies special pages, user
rights management. Voor meer informatie zie de mediawiki help.
Ik stel overigens voor het admin acount zo min mogelijk te gebruiken maar
wijzigingen zo veel mogelijk via onze eigen acounts door te voeren. Dan
blijft duidelijk wie wat doet.
Tim 
Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt
Sent: zondag 1 augustus 2010 14:37
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?

Hi.
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
> What source and how can you run it?


Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In that post
(the one you first replyed to),
there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.

          kenny

_______________________________________________
Loadstone mailing list
Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone

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From orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  1 20:42:41 2010
From: orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com (Laura Glowacki)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 13:42:41 -0600
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
References: <921169562.20100731095944@dekadent.net><5BD1926080F640F1A7E7D770873927E3@TEST2><7547476406.20100731225131@dekadent.net><8457F552F4114E2A8505BFE309C6B580@JeffsPC><20100731214137.GA15952@hittsjunk.net><623489EFDE61418B9392EDEF0D499FBC@JeffsPC>
	<20100801123713.GA19152@hittsjunk.net>
Message-ID: <4026D25E2CBE44EB809B7243401AF298@LAURASCOMPUTER>

Ok, so I'm going to try to answer the question without being snarky and, 
frankly, rude about it.

I don't know much at all about the groute tool, so please feel free to 
correct me if I'm wrong.  Last time I checked, we were all here to help one 
another out since there is no centralized area for superdetailed 
documentation, especially on something like this.

So, the way I understand it, you no longer need a user name or password for 
the groute tool.  If you download that file that Greg sent out, you can then 
run it from your computer.  No need to access it over the internet.

I can forward that email back to anyone who would like it either on or off 
list since I saved it.

Hope that helps a little.

Thanks,
Laura
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


> Hi.
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>> What source and how can you run it?
>
>
> Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In that post 
> (the one you first replyed to),
> there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
> Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.
>
>          kenny
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> 


From charlie at loadstone-gps.com  Mon Aug  2 02:42:57 2010
From: charlie at loadstone-gps.com (Charlie)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 03:42:57 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] Suggestion: copy current position to clipboard
Message-ID: <51058281.20100802034257@dekadent.net>

Hi Shawn,

it would be great to have a feature to copy the current position into
clipboard, in order to use it in another application, for example the
browser to fill it into an edit field, or in another navi software to use
it as starting point or as destination.
So may there be also an additional menue entry in the "current point"
submenue. What do you think about this?

regards,
Bert


From lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com  Mon Aug  2 16:14:28 2010
From: lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com (Lois Butterfield)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:14:28 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
In-Reply-To: <4026D25E2CBE44EB809B7243401AF298@LAURASCOMPUTER>
References: <921169562.20100731095944@dekadent.net><5BD1926080F640F1A7E7D770873927E3@TEST2><7547476406.20100731225131@dekadent.net><8457F552F4114E2A8505BFE309C6B580@JeffsPC><20100731214137.GA15952@hittsjunk.net><623489EFDE61418B9392EDEF0D499FBC@JeffsPC><20100801123713.GA19152@hittsjunk.net>
	<4026D25E2CBE44EB809B7243401AF298@LAURASCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <208C242F63E94BA198AD9DB36F5FF8C7@LoisLaptop>

I don't know how easy it is to use or how to use it.  I have downloaded it
though.  If anyone has directions posted somewhere, I'd love to know about
it.

Thanks,
Lois
p.s.  It goes without saying that a programmer, as lots of you are, would
have no question.  I'm far from that.
-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Laura Glowacki
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:43 PM
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?

Ok, so I'm going to try to answer the question without being snarky and, 
frankly, rude about it.

I don't know much at all about the groute tool, so please feel free to 
correct me if I'm wrong.  Last time I checked, we were all here to help one 
another out since there is no centralized area for superdetailed 
documentation, especially on something like this.

So, the way I understand it, you no longer need a user name or password for 
the groute tool.  If you download that file that Greg sent out, you can then

run it from your computer.  No need to access it over the internet.

I can forward that email back to anyone who would like it either on or off 
list since I saved it.

Hope that helps a little.

Thanks,
Laura
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


> Hi.
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>> What source and how can you run it?
>
>
> Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In that post

> (the one you first replyed to),
> there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
> Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.
>
>          kenny
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> 

_______________________________________________
Loadstone mailing list
Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone


From jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com  Mon Aug  2 16:55:23 2010
From: jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com (Jeff Kenyon)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:55:23 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
In-Reply-To: <208C242F63E94BA198AD9DB36F5FF8C7@LoisLaptop>
References: <921169562.20100731095944@dekadent.net><5BD1926080F640F1A7E7D770873927E3@TEST2><7547476406.20100731225131@dekadent.net><8457F552F4114E2A8505BFE309C6B580@JeffsPC><20100731214137.GA15952@hittsjunk.net><623489EFDE61418B9392EDEF0D499FBC@JeffsPC><20100801123713.GA19152@hittsjunk.net><4026D25E2CBE44EB809B7243401AF298@LAURASCOMPUTER>
	<208C242F63E94BA198AD9DB36F5FF8C7@LoisLaptop>
Message-ID: <D9B1F515A3464F888B4199F5D93D3718@JeffsPC>

I would also agree with that too.  Some of these instructions are rather 
vague.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lois Butterfield" <lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


>I don't know how easy it is to use or how to use it.  I have downloaded it
> though.  If anyone has directions posted somewhere, I'd love to know about
> it.
>
> Thanks,
> Lois
> p.s.  It goes without saying that a programmer, as lots of you are, would
> have no question.  I'm far from that.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Laura Glowacki
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:43 PM
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>
> Ok, so I'm going to try to answer the question without being snarky and,
> frankly, rude about it.
>
> I don't know much at all about the groute tool, so please feel free to
> correct me if I'm wrong.  Last time I checked, we were all here to help 
> one
> another out since there is no centralized area for superdetailed
> documentation, especially on something like this.
>
> So, the way I understand it, you no longer need a user name or password 
> for
> the groute tool.  If you download that file that Greg sent out, you can 
> then
>
> run it from your computer.  No need to access it over the internet.
>
> I can forward that email back to anyone who would like it either on or off
> list since I saved it.
>
> Hope that helps a little.
>
> Thanks,
> Laura
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>
>
>> Hi.
>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>>> What source and how can you run it?
>>
>>
>> Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In that 
>> post
>
>> (the one you first replyed to),
>> there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
>> Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.
>>
>>          kenny
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone


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From orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 18:51:34 2010
From: orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com (Laura Glowacki)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:51:34 -0600
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
References: <921169562.20100731095944@dekadent.net><5BD1926080F640F1A7E7D770873927E3@TEST2><7547476406.20100731225131@dekadent.net><8457F552F4114E2A8505BFE309C6B580@JeffsPC><20100731214137.GA15952@hittsjunk.net><623489EFDE61418B9392EDEF0D499FBC@JeffsPC><20100801123713.GA19152@hittsjunk.net><4026D25E2CBE44EB809B7243401AF298@LAURASCOMPUTER><208C242F63E94BA198AD9DB36F5FF8C7@LoisLaptop>
	<D9B1F515A3464F888B4199F5D93D3718@JeffsPC>
Message-ID: <239C9A371F2645449644518380BE3CAD@LAURASCOMPUTER>

Which instructions?  If there were any posted on how to use the software, 
I'd also love to see them ... vague or not.  Sorry if I missed a previous 
message describing this.

If you're referring to my message below, I simply was explaining my guess as 
to why you no longer need a user name and password and the purpose of the 
file.  I too am very new to all of this and can only guess from exchanges I 
see here on the list.  Sorry if my message was confusing.  I'd be happy to 
clarify if you have questions.  Although I'll add my disclaimer once again 
that I have never used it and thus can't answer any questions on exactly how 
to use it etc.

Thanks,
Laura
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


>I would also agree with that too.  Some of these instructions are rather
> vague.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lois Butterfield" <lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>
>
>>I don't know how easy it is to use or how to use it.  I have downloaded it
>> though.  If anyone has directions posted somewhere, I'd love to know 
>> about
>> it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lois
>> p.s.  It goes without saying that a programmer, as lots of you are, would
>> have no question.  I'm far from that.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Laura Glowacki
>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:43 PM
>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>
>> Ok, so I'm going to try to answer the question without being snarky and,
>> frankly, rude about it.
>>
>> I don't know much at all about the groute tool, so please feel free to
>> correct me if I'm wrong.  Last time I checked, we were all here to help
>> one
>> another out since there is no centralized area for superdetailed
>> documentation, especially on something like this.
>>
>> So, the way I understand it, you no longer need a user name or password
>> for
>> the groute tool.  If you download that file that Greg sent out, you can
>> then
>>
>> run it from your computer.  No need to access it over the internet.
>>
>> I can forward that email back to anyone who would like it either on or 
>> off
>> list since I saved it.
>>
>> Hope that helps a little.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Laura
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>>>> What source and how can you run it?
>>>
>>>
>>> Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In that
>>> post
>>
>>> (the one you first replyed to),
>>> there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
>>> Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.
>>>
>>>          kenny
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
>
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>
>
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From jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com  Mon Aug  2 21:07:32 2010
From: jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com (Jeff Kenyon)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 16:07:32 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
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Those and how the best way is to get POIS.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


> Which instructions?  If there were any posted on how to use the software,
> I'd also love to see them ... vague or not.  Sorry if I missed a previous
> message describing this.
>
> If you're referring to my message below, I simply was explaining my guess 
> as
> to why you no longer need a user name and password and the purpose of the
> file.  I too am very new to all of this and can only guess from exchanges 
> I
> see here on the list.  Sorry if my message was confusing.  I'd be happy to
> clarify if you have questions.  Although I'll add my disclaimer once again
> that I have never used it and thus can't answer any questions on exactly 
> how
> to use it etc.
>
> Thanks,
> Laura
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>
>
>>I would also agree with that too.  Some of these instructions are rather
>> vague.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Lois Butterfield" <lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>
>>
>>>I don't know how easy it is to use or how to use it.  I have downloaded 
>>>it
>>> though.  If anyone has directions posted somewhere, I'd love to know
>>> about
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lois
>>> p.s.  It goes without saying that a programmer, as lots of you are, 
>>> would
>>> have no question.  I'm far from that.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Laura Glowacki
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:43 PM
>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>
>>> Ok, so I'm going to try to answer the question without being snarky and,
>>> frankly, rude about it.
>>>
>>> I don't know much at all about the groute tool, so please feel free to
>>> correct me if I'm wrong.  Last time I checked, we were all here to help
>>> one
>>> another out since there is no centralized area for superdetailed
>>> documentation, especially on something like this.
>>>
>>> So, the way I understand it, you no longer need a user name or password
>>> for
>>> the groute tool.  If you download that file that Greg sent out, you can
>>> then
>>>
>>> run it from your computer.  No need to access it over the internet.
>>>
>>> I can forward that email back to anyone who would like it either on or
>>> off
>>> list since I saved it.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps a little.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Laura
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>>>>> What source and how can you run it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In that
>>>> post
>>>
>>>> (the one you first replyed to),
>>>> there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
>>>> Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.
>>>>
>>>>          kenny
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>
>>>
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From d.aggelen3 at upcmail.nl  Mon Aug  2 22:04:44 2010
From: d.aggelen3 at upcmail.nl (Dick&Yvonne van Aggelen)
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:04:44 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] GPS connection
Message-ID: <4C5732EC.7050406@upcmail.nl>

Hello loadstone "users",

My name is Dirk and I'm trying to get a Loadstone program running on a 
Nokia 66E telephone belonging to a friend who is blind. The telephone 
has been installed with TALKS, which works perfect. Also Loadstone seems 
to be working, at least in the EXPLORE modus. But after changing to the 
NAVIGATION modus GPS doesn't seem to be working. When pushing the 
magnetic direction keys to find any point around you get the message : 
"not connected".
On the phone I have the integrated GPS and the assisting GPS activated, 
but when in Loadstone where the "standard GPS" has been selected the 
task to find any GPSdata, gives back saying "cannot find any USB system".
Does any of you recognize the problem and can you give me a clue?
Hoping to get your wise solutions I'm ready to implement anything I 
might not have done correctly. One never knows!!
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From dgcarlson at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug  2 22:36:19 2010
From: dgcarlson at sbcglobal.net (Farfar Carlson)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:36:19 -0700
Subject: [Loadstone] GPS connection
References: <4C5732EC.7050406@upcmail.nl>
Message-ID: <1A63C85CFBA64D389F33BE3457E8355B@symmetricom.com>

Go to settings and the last page there. You'll find something that allows you to select external or internal GPS. Save the settings. and then it should work.

Dave

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dick&Yvonne van Aggelen 
  To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 14:04
  Subject: [Loadstone] GPS connection


  Hello loadstone "users",

  My name is Dirk and I'm trying to get a Loadstone program running on a Nokia 66E telephone belonging to a friend who is blind. The telephone has been installed with TALKS, which works perfect. Also Loadstone seems to be working, at least in the EXPLORE modus. But after changing to the NAVIGATION modus GPS doesn't seem to be working. When pushing the magnetic direction keys to find any point around you get the message : "not connected".
  On the phone I have the integrated GPS and the assisting GPS activated, but when in Loadstone where the "standard GPS" has been selected the task to find any GPSdata, gives back saying "cannot find any USB system". 
  Does any of you recognize the problem and can you give me a clue?
  Hoping to get your wise solutions I'm ready to implement anything I might not have done correctly. One never knows!!



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From shawn at loadstone-gps.com  Mon Aug  2 22:40:32 2010
From: shawn at loadstone-gps.com (Shawn Kirkpatrick)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:40:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Loadstone] GPS connection
In-Reply-To: <4C5732EC.7050406@upcmail.nl>
References: <4C5732EC.7050406@upcmail.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021437470.21479@odyssey.shawnk.ca>

Go to the gps menu and select find gps. When it asks for location technology 
select integrated gps or assisted gps and that'll connect you to the 
internal gps receiver of the phone. If you want this connection to happen by 
default then go to the gps menu and select save default gps. Be warned the 
internal gps receiver isn't very good so it may take a long time to get a 
signal.

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Dick&Yvonne van Aggelen wrote:

> Hello loadstone "users",
>
> My name is Dirk and I'm trying to get a Loadstone program running on a Nokia 
> 66E telephone belonging to a friend who is blind. The telephone has been 
> installed with TALKS, which works perfect. Also Loadstone seems to be 
> working, at least in the EXPLORE modus. But after changing to the NAVIGATION 
> modus GPS doesn't seem to be working. When pushing the magnetic direction 
> keys to find any point around you get the message : "not connected".
> On the phone I have the integrated GPS and the assisting GPS activated, but 
> when in Loadstone where the "standard GPS" has been selected the task to find 
> any GPSdata, gives back saying "cannot find any USB system".
> Does any of you recognize the problem and can you give me a clue?
> Hoping to get your wise solutions I'm ready to implement anything I might not 
> have done correctly. One never knows!!
>

From shawn at loadstone-gps.com  Mon Aug  2 22:41:39 2010
From: shawn at loadstone-gps.com (Shawn Kirkpatrick)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:41:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Loadstone] GPS connection
In-Reply-To: <1A63C85CFBA64D389F33BE3457E8355B@symmetricom.com>
References: <4C5732EC.7050406@upcmail.nl>
	<1A63C85CFBA64D389F33BE3457E8355B@symmetricom.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021441070.21479@odyssey.shawnk.ca>

This is no longer the case, you're describing an older version of loadstone.

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Farfar Carlson wrote:

> Go to settings and the last page there. You'll find something that allows you to select external or internal GPS. Save the settings. and then it should work.
>
> Dave
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Dick&Yvonne van Aggelen
>  To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 14:04
>  Subject: [Loadstone] GPS connection
>
>
>  Hello loadstone "users",
>
>  My name is Dirk and I'm trying to get a Loadstone program running on a Nokia 66E telephone belonging to a friend who is blind. The telephone has been installed with TALKS, which works perfect. Also Loadstone seems to be working, at least in the EXPLORE modus. But after changing to the NAVIGATION modus GPS doesn't seem to be working. When pushing the magnetic direction keys to find any point around you get the message : "not connected".
>  On the phone I have the integrated GPS and the assisting GPS activated, but when in Loadstone where the "standard GPS" has been selected the task to find any GPSdata, gives back saying "cannot find any USB system".
>  Does any of you recognize the problem and can you give me a clue?
>  Hoping to get your wise solutions I'm ready to implement anything I might not have done correctly. One never knows!!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
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From shawn at loadstone-gps.com  Mon Aug  2 22:45:05 2010
From: shawn at loadstone-gps.com (Shawn Kirkpatrick)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:45:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Loadstone] Suggestion: copy current position to clipboard
In-Reply-To: <51058281.20100802034257@dekadent.net>
References: <51058281.20100802034257@dekadent.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021442300.21548@odyssey.shawnk.ca>

This isn't a bad idea. The only question I'd have is what format the 
position should be in? This could probably be implemented assuming symbian 
has made the clipboard apis available.

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Charlie wrote:

> Hi Shawn,
>
> it would be great to have a feature to copy the current position into
> clipboard, in order to use it in another application, for example the
> browser to fill it into an edit field, or in another navi software to use
> it as starting point or as destination.
> So may there be also an additional menue entry in the "current point"
> submenue. What do you think about this?
>
> regards,
> Bert
>
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From charlie at loadstone-gps.com  Mon Aug  2 23:06:07 2010
From: charlie at loadstone-gps.com (Charlie)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 00:06:07 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] Suggestion: copy current position to clipboard
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021442300.21548@odyssey.shawnk.ca>
References: <51058281.20100802034257@dekadent.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021442300.21548@odyssey.shawnk.ca>
Message-ID: <14574447843.20100803000607@dekadent.net>

Hi Shawn,

Shawn Kirkpatrick <shawn at loadstone-gps.com> wrote:

> This isn't a bad idea. The only question I'd have is what format the 
> position should be in?

I think, the best solution would be a little submenue to choose the needed
format:  either "dd.dddddd dd.dddddd", "dd mm ss.ss N, dd mm ss.ss E" or
"dd mm.mmm N, dd mm.mmm E"

In addition it would be very nice to have a choice of the format of the
coordinates when manually adding a point. Especially a geocacher would like
that very much.

What about having 3 edit fields, one for each format and the chosen field
wins? Would that be possible?

regards,
Bert


From orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 00:31:53 2010
From: orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com (Laura Glowacki)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 17:31:53 -0600
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
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Have you gone through the new user getting started guide? You can find it 
at:
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/docs/manual/getstart0.html

There are several ways to get POIs:
the Point Share site
the OpenStreetMap project
groute? (again, not sure since I've not used it)
and the internet at large is a great source for various POIs.  Sadly, every 
website I've seen so far provides vast lists of POIs in a given category and 
not separated by city or smaller geographic areas.  For instance, one can 
find a a file of POIs for all of the Jewel Osco grocery stores in the state 
of Illinois in the US.  However, perhaps I only visit one or two locations 
of this particular store in my city.  I've determined it to be a pain to 
simply go through and delete every single other POI out of the list besides 
the one or two that I need.  This may be worth it if you have to find a 
particular place and can download the POI list before hand.  It is simply 
one more option.

If you are having trouble accessing something specific, let us know.  We may 
be able to help you better if you ask a more specific question about a 
particular feature or thing you want to accomplish.

If you are simply asking which of the above mentioned methods for obtaining 
POIs is better, I think it's more personal preference.  I've so far only 
used the OpenStreetMap project database and it has worked wonderfully for my 
purposes over the past 2 months.  I'm quite familiar with the major streets 
near where I live, but less so with the side streets which start and stop 
sometimes.  Thus the OSM project tells me what intersection I'm at, and this 
has been enough information for me to get most of the places I've needed to 
go so far.

I understand that many of us on this list aren't native English speakers. 
Please feel free to ask me for clarification if something I say just doesn't 
make sense.  I only wish I knew enough to communicate better in a different 
language.

Best,
Laura
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


> Those and how the best way is to get POIS.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>
>
>> Which instructions?  If there were any posted on how to use the software,
>> I'd also love to see them ... vague or not.  Sorry if I missed a previous
>> message describing this.
>>
>> If you're referring to my message below, I simply was explaining my guess
>> as
>> to why you no longer need a user name and password and the purpose of the
>> file.  I too am very new to all of this and can only guess from exchanges
>> I
>> see here on the list.  Sorry if my message was confusing.  I'd be happy 
>> to
>> clarify if you have questions.  Although I'll add my disclaimer once 
>> again
>> that I have never used it and thus can't answer any questions on exactly
>> how
>> to use it etc.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Laura
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>
>>
>>>I would also agree with that too.  Some of these instructions are rather
>>> vague.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Lois Butterfield" <lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't know how easy it is to use or how to use it.  I have downloaded
>>>>it
>>>> though.  If anyone has directions posted somewhere, I'd love to know
>>>> about
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Lois
>>>> p.s.  It goes without saying that a programmer, as lots of you are,
>>>> would
>>>> have no question.  I'm far from that.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Laura 
>>>> Glowacki
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:43 PM
>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so I'm going to try to answer the question without being snarky 
>>>> and,
>>>> frankly, rude about it.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know much at all about the groute tool, so please feel free to
>>>> correct me if I'm wrong.  Last time I checked, we were all here to help
>>>> one
>>>> another out since there is no centralized area for superdetailed
>>>> documentation, especially on something like this.
>>>>
>>>> So, the way I understand it, you no longer need a user name or password
>>>> for
>>>> the groute tool.  If you download that file that Greg sent out, you can
>>>> then
>>>>
>>>> run it from your computer.  No need to access it over the internet.
>>>>
>>>> I can forward that email back to anyone who would like it either on or
>>>> off
>>>> list since I saved it.
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps a little.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Laura
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:37 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>>>>>> What source and how can you run it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In that
>>>>> post
>>>>
>>>>> (the one you first replyed to),
>>>>> there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
>>>>> Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.
>>>>>
>>>>>          kenny
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>
>>>>
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From jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com  Mon Aug  2 23:44:27 2010
From: jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com (Jeff Kenyon)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:44:27 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
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Yes I have several times.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


> Have you gone through the new user getting started guide? You can find it
> at:
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/docs/manual/getstart0.html
>
> There are several ways to get POIs:
> the Point Share site
> the OpenStreetMap project
> groute? (again, not sure since I've not used it)
> and the internet at large is a great source for various POIs.  Sadly, 
> every
> website I've seen so far provides vast lists of POIs in a given category 
> and
> not separated by city or smaller geographic areas.  For instance, one can
> find a a file of POIs for all of the Jewel Osco grocery stores in the 
> state
> of Illinois in the US.  However, perhaps I only visit one or two locations
> of this particular store in my city.  I've determined it to be a pain to
> simply go through and delete every single other POI out of the list 
> besides
> the one or two that I need.  This may be worth it if you have to find a
> particular place and can download the POI list before hand.  It is simply
> one more option.
>
> If you are having trouble accessing something specific, let us know.  We 
> may
> be able to help you better if you ask a more specific question about a
> particular feature or thing you want to accomplish.
>
> If you are simply asking which of the above mentioned methods for 
> obtaining
> POIs is better, I think it's more personal preference.  I've so far only
> used the OpenStreetMap project database and it has worked wonderfully for 
> my
> purposes over the past 2 months.  I'm quite familiar with the major 
> streets
> near where I live, but less so with the side streets which start and stop
> sometimes.  Thus the OSM project tells me what intersection I'm at, and 
> this
> has been enough information for me to get most of the places I've needed 
> to
> go so far.
>
> I understand that many of us on this list aren't native English speakers.
> Please feel free to ask me for clarification if something I say just 
> doesn't
> make sense.  I only wish I knew enough to communicate better in a 
> different
> language.
>
> Best,
> Laura
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>
>
>> Those and how the best way is to get POIS.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 1:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>
>>
>>> Which instructions?  If there were any posted on how to use the 
>>> software,
>>> I'd also love to see them ... vague or not.  Sorry if I missed a 
>>> previous
>>> message describing this.
>>>
>>> If you're referring to my message below, I simply was explaining my 
>>> guess
>>> as
>>> to why you no longer need a user name and password and the purpose of 
>>> the
>>> file.  I too am very new to all of this and can only guess from 
>>> exchanges
>>> I
>>> see here on the list.  Sorry if my message was confusing.  I'd be happy
>>> to
>>> clarify if you have questions.  Although I'll add my disclaimer once
>>> again
>>> that I have never used it and thus can't answer any questions on exactly
>>> how
>>> to use it etc.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Laura
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:55 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would also agree with that too.  Some of these instructions are rather
>>>> vague.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Lois Butterfield" <lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com>
>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:14 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't know how easy it is to use or how to use it.  I have downloaded
>>>>>it
>>>>> though.  If anyone has directions posted somewhere, I'd love to know
>>>>> about
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Lois
>>>>> p.s.  It goes without saying that a programmer, as lots of you are,
>>>>> would
>>>>> have no question.  I'm far from that.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Laura
>>>>> Glowacki
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:43 PM
>>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, so I'm going to try to answer the question without being snarky
>>>>> and,
>>>>> frankly, rude about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know much at all about the groute tool, so please feel free to
>>>>> correct me if I'm wrong.  Last time I checked, we were all here to 
>>>>> help
>>>>> one
>>>>> another out since there is no centralized area for superdetailed
>>>>> documentation, especially on something like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, the way I understand it, you no longer need a user name or 
>>>>> password
>>>>> for
>>>>> the groute tool.  If you download that file that Greg sent out, you 
>>>>> can
>>>>> then
>>>>>
>>>>> run it from your computer.  No need to access it over the internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can forward that email back to anyone who would like it either on or
>>>>> off
>>>>> list since I saved it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps a little.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Laura
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:37 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>>>>>>> What source and how can you run it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In that
>>>>>> post
>>>>>
>>>>>> (the one you first replyed to),
>>>>>> there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
>>>>>> Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          kenny
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>>
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From orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 01:41:54 2010
From: orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com (Laura Glowacki)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:41:54 -0600
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
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So did anything I wrote help answer any other questions you have?  Is there 
something else you want to know?  I can't read your mind.  Smiles.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


> Yes I have several times.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>
>
>> Have you gone through the new user getting started guide? You can find it
>> at:
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/docs/manual/getstart0.html
>>
>> There are several ways to get POIs:
>> the Point Share site
>> the OpenStreetMap project
>> groute? (again, not sure since I've not used it)
>> and the internet at large is a great source for various POIs.  Sadly,
>> every
>> website I've seen so far provides vast lists of POIs in a given category
>> and
>> not separated by city or smaller geographic areas.  For instance, one can
>> find a a file of POIs for all of the Jewel Osco grocery stores in the
>> state
>> of Illinois in the US.  However, perhaps I only visit one or two 
>> locations
>> of this particular store in my city.  I've determined it to be a pain to
>> simply go through and delete every single other POI out of the list
>> besides
>> the one or two that I need.  This may be worth it if you have to find a
>> particular place and can download the POI list before hand.  It is simply
>> one more option.
>>
>> If you are having trouble accessing something specific, let us know.  We
>> may
>> be able to help you better if you ask a more specific question about a
>> particular feature or thing you want to accomplish.
>>
>> If you are simply asking which of the above mentioned methods for
>> obtaining
>> POIs is better, I think it's more personal preference.  I've so far only
>> used the OpenStreetMap project database and it has worked wonderfully for
>> my
>> purposes over the past 2 months.  I'm quite familiar with the major
>> streets
>> near where I live, but less so with the side streets which start and stop
>> sometimes.  Thus the OSM project tells me what intersection I'm at, and
>> this
>> has been enough information for me to get most of the places I've needed
>> to
>> go so far.
>>
>> I understand that many of us on this list aren't native English speakers.
>> Please feel free to ask me for clarification if something I say just
>> doesn't
>> make sense.  I only wish I knew enough to communicate better in a
>> different
>> language.
>>
>> Best,
>> Laura
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>
>>
>>> Those and how the best way is to get POIS.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 1:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Which instructions?  If there were any posted on how to use the
>>>> software,
>>>> I'd also love to see them ... vague or not.  Sorry if I missed a
>>>> previous
>>>> message describing this.
>>>>
>>>> If you're referring to my message below, I simply was explaining my
>>>> guess
>>>> as
>>>> to why you no longer need a user name and password and the purpose of
>>>> the
>>>> file.  I too am very new to all of this and can only guess from
>>>> exchanges
>>>> I
>>>> see here on the list.  Sorry if my message was confusing.  I'd be happy
>>>> to
>>>> clarify if you have questions.  Although I'll add my disclaimer once
>>>> again
>>>> that I have never used it and thus can't answer any questions on 
>>>> exactly
>>>> how
>>>> to use it etc.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Laura
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:55 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I would also agree with that too.  Some of these instructions are 
>>>>>rather
>>>>> vague.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Lois Butterfield" <lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com>
>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:14 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know how easy it is to use or how to use it.  I have 
>>>>>>downloaded
>>>>>>it
>>>>>> though.  If anyone has directions posted somewhere, I'd love to know
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Lois
>>>>>> p.s.  It goes without saying that a programmer, as lots of you are,
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> have no question.  I'm far from that.
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Laura
>>>>>> Glowacki
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:43 PM
>>>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, so I'm going to try to answer the question without being snarky
>>>>>> and,
>>>>>> frankly, rude about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know much at all about the groute tool, so please feel free 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> correct me if I'm wrong.  Last time I checked, we were all here to
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> another out since there is no centralized area for superdetailed
>>>>>> documentation, especially on something like this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the way I understand it, you no longer need a user name or
>>>>>> password
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the groute tool.  If you download that file that Greg sent out, you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> then
>>>>>>
>>>>>> run it from your computer.  No need to access it over the internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can forward that email back to anyone who would like it either on 
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> list since I saved it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope that helps a little.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
>>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:37 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>>>>>>>> What source and how can you run it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (the one you first replyed to),
>>>>>>> there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
>>>>>>> Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          kenny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
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From jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com  Tue Aug  3 00:57:18 2010
From: jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com (Jeff Kenyon)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 19:57:18 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
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Well, I've found those sites, and depending upon how current google stays 
with its list of POIs with Groute you are more up to date with more POIs 
then you'll ever need or dream of!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


> So did anything I wrote help answer any other questions you have?  Is 
> there
> something else you want to know?  I can't read your mind.  Smiles.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 4:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>
>
>> Yes I have several times.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>
>>
>>> Have you gone through the new user getting started guide? You can find 
>>> it
>>> at:
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/docs/manual/getstart0.html
>>>
>>> There are several ways to get POIs:
>>> the Point Share site
>>> the OpenStreetMap project
>>> groute? (again, not sure since I've not used it)
>>> and the internet at large is a great source for various POIs.  Sadly,
>>> every
>>> website I've seen so far provides vast lists of POIs in a given category
>>> and
>>> not separated by city or smaller geographic areas.  For instance, one 
>>> can
>>> find a a file of POIs for all of the Jewel Osco grocery stores in the
>>> state
>>> of Illinois in the US.  However, perhaps I only visit one or two
>>> locations
>>> of this particular store in my city.  I've determined it to be a pain to
>>> simply go through and delete every single other POI out of the list
>>> besides
>>> the one or two that I need.  This may be worth it if you have to find a
>>> particular place and can download the POI list before hand.  It is 
>>> simply
>>> one more option.
>>>
>>> If you are having trouble accessing something specific, let us know.  We
>>> may
>>> be able to help you better if you ask a more specific question about a
>>> particular feature or thing you want to accomplish.
>>>
>>> If you are simply asking which of the above mentioned methods for
>>> obtaining
>>> POIs is better, I think it's more personal preference.  I've so far only
>>> used the OpenStreetMap project database and it has worked wonderfully 
>>> for
>>> my
>>> purposes over the past 2 months.  I'm quite familiar with the major
>>> streets
>>> near where I live, but less so with the side streets which start and 
>>> stop
>>> sometimes.  Thus the OSM project tells me what intersection I'm at, and
>>> this
>>> has been enough information for me to get most of the places I've needed
>>> to
>>> go so far.
>>>
>>> I understand that many of us on this list aren't native English 
>>> speakers.
>>> Please feel free to ask me for clarification if something I say just
>>> doesn't
>>> make sense.  I only wish I knew enough to communicate better in a
>>> different
>>> language.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Laura
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Those and how the best way is to get POIS.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 1:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Which instructions?  If there were any posted on how to use the
>>>>> software,
>>>>> I'd also love to see them ... vague or not.  Sorry if I missed a
>>>>> previous
>>>>> message describing this.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're referring to my message below, I simply was explaining my
>>>>> guess
>>>>> as
>>>>> to why you no longer need a user name and password and the purpose of
>>>>> the
>>>>> file.  I too am very new to all of this and can only guess from
>>>>> exchanges
>>>>> I
>>>>> see here on the list.  Sorry if my message was confusing.  I'd be 
>>>>> happy
>>>>> to
>>>>> clarify if you have questions.  Although I'll add my disclaimer once
>>>>> again
>>>>> that I have never used it and thus can't answer any questions on
>>>>> exactly
>>>>> how
>>>>> to use it etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Laura
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com>
>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:55 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I would also agree with that too.  Some of these instructions are
>>>>>>rather
>>>>>> vague.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Lois Butterfield" <lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:14 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know how easy it is to use or how to use it.  I have
>>>>>>>downloaded
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>> though.  If anyone has directions posted somewhere, I'd love to know
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Lois
>>>>>>> p.s.  It goes without saying that a programmer, as lots of you are,
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> have no question.  I'm far from that.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Laura
>>>>>>> Glowacki
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:43 PM
>>>>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, so I'm going to try to answer the question without being snarky
>>>>>>> and,
>>>>>>> frankly, rude about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know much at all about the groute tool, so please feel free
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> correct me if I'm wrong.  Last time I checked, we were all here to
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> another out since there is no centralized area for superdetailed
>>>>>>> documentation, especially on something like this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, the way I understand it, you no longer need a user name or
>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the groute tool.  If you download that file that Greg sent out, you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> run it from your computer.  No need to access it over the internet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can forward that email back to anyone who would like it either on
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>> list since I saved it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope that helps a little.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
>>>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:37 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What source and how can you run it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (the one you first replyed to),
>>>>>>>> there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
>>>>>>>> Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>          kenny
>>>>>>>>
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From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 02:40:03 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 09:40:03 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] will groute be back?
References: <921169562.20100731095944@dekadent.net><5BD1926080F640F1A7E7D770873927E3@TEST2><7547476406.20100731225131@dekadent.net><8457F552F4114E2A8505BFE309C6B580@JeffsPC><20100731214137.GA15952@hittsjunk.net><623489EFDE61418B9392EDEF0D499FBC@JeffsPC><20100801123713.GA19152@hittsjunk.net>
	<4026D25E2CBE44EB809B7243401AF298@LAURASCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <DF27F85FEA2248508BD1CF1E44BB2E43@ambankgroup.ahb.com>

Hi Laura,

I have missed out on the original mail with link given.
Pls do send me a link to download the file.

Thanks,
KITT.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


Ok, so I'm going to try to answer the question without being snarky and,
frankly, rude about it.

I don't know much at all about the groute tool, so please feel free to
correct me if I'm wrong.  Last time I checked, we were all here to help one
another out since there is no centralized area for superdetailed
documentation, especially on something like this.

So, the way I understand it, you no longer need a user name or password for
the groute tool.  If you download that file that Greg sent out, you can then
run it from your computer.  No need to access it over the internet.

I can forward that email back to anyone who would like it either on or off
list since I saved it.

Hope that helps a little.

Thanks,
Laura
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at hittsjunk.net>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] will groute be back?


> Hi.
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:54:33PM -0400, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>> What source and how can you run it?
>
>
> Aparently, you didn't read the original post on this thread.  In that post
> (the one you first replyed to),
> there was a link to the zip file of the source on sendspace.
> Since I'm not using it, I didn't save it.
>
>          kenny
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
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From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 02:43:50 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 09:43:50 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] GPS connection
References: <4C5732EC.7050406@upcmail.nl>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021437470.21479@odyssey.shawnk.ca>
Message-ID: <FAAA48BD961D4634853B847AE5F11FE5@ambankgroup.ahb.com>

Note: A.GPS is chargeable.  So, if you cannot get it connected using I.GPS, 
then use A.GPS for the first time. After getting signal, then disconnect and 
reconnect using I.GPS, this is free.  If you just close program within about 
an hour or two, you don't have to use A.GPS again as first time.  You can 
just straight use I.GPS and it will get connected with no problem.

Regards,
KITT.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" <shawn at loadstone-gps.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] GPS connection


Go to the gps menu and select find gps. When it asks for location technology
select integrated gps or assisted gps and that'll connect you to the
internal gps receiver of the phone. If you want this connection to happen by
default then go to the gps menu and select save default gps. Be warned the
internal gps receiver isn't very good so it may take a long time to get a
signal.

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Dick&Yvonne van Aggelen wrote:

> Hello loadstone "users",
>
> My name is Dirk and I'm trying to get a Loadstone program running on a 
> Nokia
> 66E telephone belonging to a friend who is blind. The telephone has been
> installed with TALKS, which works perfect. Also Loadstone seems to be
> working, at least in the EXPLORE modus. But after changing to the 
> NAVIGATION
> modus GPS doesn't seem to be working. When pushing the magnetic direction
> keys to find any point around you get the message : "not connected".
> On the phone I have the integrated GPS and the assisting GPS activated, 
> but
> when in Loadstone where the "standard GPS" has been selected the task to 
> find
> any GPSdata, gives back saying "cannot find any USB system".
> Does any of you recognize the problem and can you give me a clue?
> Hoping to get your wise solutions I'm ready to implement anything I might 
> not
> have done correctly. One never knows!!
>
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From kerry at gotss.net  Tue Aug  3 05:36:26 2010
From: kerry at gotss.net (Kerry Hoath)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:36:26 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] groute clarification and myth debunking
Message-ID: <4C579CCA.7030008@gotss.net>

I have seen a whole pile of posts to this list asking "how do I get 
groute working" etc.
What was posted to the list last week was the php source for groute. To 
make this run, you'll need a web server, a php module and the knowhow to 
set this all up.
You may also even need a google account and you may need to edit the 
source to imbed this information.

What was posted is not a ready to run program unless you have all of the 
other prerequisites configured on your system or virtual server.

There is no easy way to run groute unless it becomes integrated with the 
loadstone offline tools.

If someone were to host groute on a server somewhere and set it up to 
query google they may hit the query limit the author was hitting when 
groute was targetted.

Ihave no idea if anyone is hosting groute, certainly Ihave not seen any 
messages to the list stating this so unless someone puts groute into 
offline tools (If this is even possible) or hosts it for general use 
groute will not be  easily accessible to end-users.

Please also keep in mind hwen you use groute you agree to the google 
terms of service, and part of those terms of service state that you are 
not to use groute for life-critical navigation.
This means that if groute gets you lost, run over or confused, you 
accept all rsponsibility.
Recently a sighted woman attempted to sue google when she walked out 
onto a road and got hit by a car.
Perhaps it would have paid for her to check if any traffic was coming 
before crossing the road rather than concentrating on her navigation device.

I only state the above as users should be aware that even if a 
functional groute is made available then if it breaks you get to keep 
both pieces.

Groute is an excellent tool, however it is only one of many tools you 
should utilize in your aquisition of points.
Also note that marking stuff yourself will give you results accurate to 
the receiver you are currently using and can often get you extremely 
closed to the door of a building etc.

Regards, Kerry.

From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 07:34:25 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:34:25 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] groute clarification and myth debunking
References: <4C579CCA.7030008@gotss.net>
Message-ID: <24A4F10890D74DBAAC95B33C1DD2C313@ambankgroup.ahb.com>

In this case, is LoadStone-GPS.com interested to host it for its users?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net>
To: "General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program" 
<loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: [Loadstone] groute clarification and myth debunking


I have seen a whole pile of posts to this list asking "how do I get
groute working" etc.
What was posted to the list last week was the php source for groute. To
make this run, you'll need a web server, a php module and the knowhow to
set this all up.
You may also even need a google account and you may need to edit the
source to imbed this information.

What was posted is not a ready to run program unless you have all of the
other prerequisites configured on your system or virtual server.

There is no easy way to run groute unless it becomes integrated with the
loadstone offline tools.

If someone were to host groute on a server somewhere and set it up to
query google they may hit the query limit the author was hitting when
groute was targetted.

Ihave no idea if anyone is hosting groute, certainly Ihave not seen any
messages to the list stating this so unless someone puts groute into
offline tools (If this is even possible) or hosts it for general use
groute will not be  easily accessible to end-users.

Please also keep in mind hwen you use groute you agree to the google
terms of service, and part of those terms of service state that you are
not to use groute for life-critical navigation.
This means that if groute gets you lost, run over or confused, you
accept all rsponsibility.
Recently a sighted woman attempted to sue google when she walked out
onto a road and got hit by a car.
Perhaps it would have paid for her to check if any traffic was coming
before crossing the road rather than concentrating on her navigation device.

I only state the above as users should be aware that even if a
functional groute is made available then if it breaks you get to keep
both pieces.

Groute is an excellent tool, however it is only one of many tools you
should utilize in your aquisition of points.
Also note that marking stuff yourself will give you results accurate to
the receiver you are currently using and can often get you extremely
closed to the door of a building etc.

Regards, Kerry.
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From lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com  Tue Aug  3 07:59:55 2010
From: lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com (Lois Butterfield)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 02:59:55 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] groute clarification and myth debunking
References: <4C579CCA.7030008@gotss.net>
Message-ID: <CA3D194A070546FBAE9C4AE2837904B4@floridabf465c1>

Thank you very much for this explanation.  I can see now that it is 
something beyond my abilities to get working.

You also give sound advice to those who might be tempted to rely too much on 
their GPS systems.

Lois
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net>
To: "General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program" 
<loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:36 AM
Subject: [Loadstone] groute clarification and myth debunking


>I have seen a whole pile of posts to this list asking "how do I get groute 
>working" etc.
> What was posted to the list last week was the php source for groute. To 
> make this run, you'll need a web server, a php module and the knowhow to 
> set this all up.
> You may also even need a google account and you may need to edit the 
> source to imbed this information.
>
> What was posted is not a ready to run program unless you have all of the 
> other prerequisites configured on your system or virtual server.
>
> There is no easy way to run groute unless it becomes integrated with the 
> loadstone offline tools.
>
> If someone were to host groute on a server somewhere and set it up to 
> query google they may hit the query limit the author was hitting when 
> groute was targetted.
>
> Ihave no idea if anyone is hosting groute, certainly Ihave not seen any 
> messages to the list stating this so unless someone puts groute into 
> offline tools (If this is even possible) or hosts it for general use 
> groute will not be  easily accessible to end-users.
>
> Please also keep in mind hwen you use groute you agree to the google terms 
> of service, and part of those terms of service state that you are not to 
> use groute for life-critical navigation.
> This means that if groute gets you lost, run over or confused, you accept 
> all rsponsibility.
> Recently a sighted woman attempted to sue google when she walked out onto 
> a road and got hit by a car.
> Perhaps it would have paid for her to check if any traffic was coming 
> before crossing the road rather than concentrating on her navigation 
> device.
>
> I only state the above as users should be aware that even if a functional 
> groute is made available then if it breaks you get to keep both pieces.
>
> Groute is an excellent tool, however it is only one of many tools you 
> should utilize in your aquisition of points.
> Also note that marking stuff yourself will give you results accurate to 
> the receiver you are currently using and can often get you extremely 
> closed to the door of a building etc.
>
> Regards, Kerry.
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone 


From monty at loadstone-gps.com  Tue Aug  3 09:29:08 2010
From: monty at loadstone-gps.com (monty at loadstone-gps.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 09:29:08 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Loadstone] groute clarification and myth debunking
In-Reply-To: <24A4F10890D74DBAAC95B33C1DD2C313@ambankgroup.ahb.com>
References: <4C579CCA.7030008@gotss.net>
	<24A4F10890D74DBAAC95B33C1DD2C313@ambankgroup.ahb.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1008030924380.9579@zvyyraavhz.op.pk>

Thanks Kerry for your valuable insight as usual.

At the moment we are not interested in hosting gRoute for reasons already 
outlined on this list.  One of the big reasons is the Google Maps Terms of 
Service plus the abuse factor!

Luckally, there are thousands of Loadstone users around the world with 
many possessing the technical  knowledge and willingness to host a 
gRoute-like tool so I'm sure it is only a matter of time!


Monty

  On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Kit wrote:

> In this case, is LoadStone-GPS.com interested to host it for its users?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net>
> To: "General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program"
> <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:36 PM
> Subject: [Loadstone] groute clarification and myth debunking
>
>
> I have seen a whole pile of posts to this list asking "how do I get
> groute working" etc.
> What was posted to the list last week was the php source for groute. To
> make this run, you'll need a web server, a php module and the knowhow to
> set this all up.
> You may also even need a google account and you may need to edit the
> source to imbed this information.
>
> What was posted is not a ready to run program unless you have all of the
> other prerequisites configured on your system or virtual server.
>
> There is no easy way to run groute unless it becomes integrated with the
> loadstone offline tools.
>
> If someone were to host groute on a server somewhere and set it up to
> query google they may hit the query limit the author was hitting when
> groute was targetted.
>
> Ihave no idea if anyone is hosting groute, certainly Ihave not seen any
> messages to the list stating this so unless someone puts groute into
> offline tools (If this is even possible) or hosts it for general use
> groute will not be  easily accessible to end-users.
>
> Please also keep in mind hwen you use groute you agree to the google
> terms of service, and part of those terms of service state that you are
> not to use groute for life-critical navigation.
> This means that if groute gets you lost, run over or confused, you
> accept all rsponsibility.
> Recently a sighted woman attempted to sue google when she walked out
> onto a road and got hit by a car.
> Perhaps it would have paid for her to check if any traffic was coming
> before crossing the road rather than concentrating on her navigation device.
>
> I only state the above as users should be aware that even if a
> functional groute is made available then if it breaks you get to keep
> both pieces.
>
> Groute is an excellent tool, however it is only one of many tools you
> should utilize in your aquisition of points.
> Also note that marking stuff yourself will give you results accurate to
> the receiver you are currently using and can often get you extremely
> closed to the door of a building etc.
>
> Regards, Kerry.
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>

From nm-listen at millernorbert.de  Tue Aug  3 13:39:01 2010
From: nm-listen at millernorbert.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Norbert_M=FCller?=)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:39:01 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] Problem with Holux M1000 C
References: <4C5732EC.7050406@upcmail.nl>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021437470.21479@odyssey.shawnk.ca>
Message-ID: <96EE29D8509D4272AB0788E6A116F447@31BF457DCA>

Hello everyone,

I had to purchase a Holux M1000C, since my favorite - the regular M1000 - 
was not available any more.

The new device seemed to work fine - until I checked the time. I noticed, 
the clock had been set one hour back. Thinking I could correct that within 
the loadstone settings, I tried to do so. However, when I briefly quit 
Loadstone I noticed that also the date had been changed from July 31, 2010 
to March 16, 2030.

The time and date gets changed even if I turn the synchronizing of GPS Time 
and mobile phone off in Loadstone.

So far, neither I nor my dealer was able to figure out where this problem 
comes from. Does anyone have any ideas?

And while I'm at it: Does Loadstone work well with the Wintec BT 202?

Best regards,


Norbert


From orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 15:31:11 2010
From: orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com (Laura Glowacki)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 08:31:11 -0600
Subject: [Loadstone] groute clarification and myth debunking
References: <4C579CCA.7030008@gotss.net>
	<CA3D194A070546FBAE9C4AE2837904B4@floridabf465c1>
Message-ID: <9E89C94497E840BBB4E890641350B6CF@LAURASCOMPUTER>

Yes, the wisest and best said message on this list in a while!  Thank you 
for the clarification, and forgive my attempts to give advice about which I 
know nothing about.

Laura
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lois Butterfield" <lbutterfield5 at cfl.rr.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] groute clarification and myth debunking


> Thank you very much for this explanation.  I can see now that it is 
> something beyond my abilities to get working.
>
> You also give sound advice to those who might be tempted to rely too much 
> on their GPS systems.
>
> Lois
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net>
> To: "General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program" 
> <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:36 AM
> Subject: [Loadstone] groute clarification and myth debunking
>
>
>>I have seen a whole pile of posts to this list asking "how do I get groute 
>>working" etc.
>> What was posted to the list last week was the php source for groute. To 
>> make this run, you'll need a web server, a php module and the knowhow to 
>> set this all up.
>> You may also even need a google account and you may need to edit the 
>> source to imbed this information.
>>
>> What was posted is not a ready to run program unless you have all of the 
>> other prerequisites configured on your system or virtual server.
>>
>> There is no easy way to run groute unless it becomes integrated with the 
>> loadstone offline tools.
>>
>> If someone were to host groute on a server somewhere and set it up to 
>> query google they may hit the query limit the author was hitting when 
>> groute was targetted.
>>
>> Ihave no idea if anyone is hosting groute, certainly Ihave not seen any 
>> messages to the list stating this so unless someone puts groute into 
>> offline tools (If this is even possible) or hosts it for general use 
>> groute will not be  easily accessible to end-users.
>>
>> Please also keep in mind hwen you use groute you agree to the google 
>> terms of service, and part of those terms of service state that you are 
>> not to use groute for life-critical navigation.
>> This means that if groute gets you lost, run over or confused, you accept 
>> all rsponsibility.
>> Recently a sighted woman attempted to sue google when she walked out onto 
>> a road and got hit by a car.
>> Perhaps it would have paid for her to check if any traffic was coming 
>> before crossing the road rather than concentrating on her navigation 
>> device.
>>
>> I only state the above as users should be aware that even if a functional 
>> groute is made available then if it breaks you get to keep both pieces.
>>
>> Groute is an excellent tool, however it is only one of many tools you 
>> should utilize in your aquisition of points.
>> Also note that marking stuff yourself will give you results accurate to 
>> the receiver you are currently using and can often get you extremely 
>> closed to the door of a building etc.
>>
>> Regards, Kerry.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> 


From arimo at iki.fi  Tue Aug  3 15:25:35 2010
From: arimo at iki.fi (Ari Moisio)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 17:25:35 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [Loadstone] Problem with Holux M1000 C
In-Reply-To: <96EE29D8509D4272AB0788E6A116F447@31BF457DCA>
References: <4C5732EC.7050406@upcmail.nl>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021437470.21479@odyssey.shawnk.ca>
	<96EE29D8509D4272AB0788E6A116F447@31BF457DCA>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1008031712570.9978@arimo.local>

Hi

You can check  if your receiver send s correct time data with following 
way:

-  Start loadstone and connect with the receiver as usual.

- Wait unti you get a satellite fix.

- Start nmea logging, log for few seconds.

- close the log and Loadstone

Look the log file, for example downloading it into your computer or with 
some file viewer in the phone.  Look for lines that begin with '$GPGGA'.
  Just after the keyword there should be  the UTC time on HHMMSS format.

You can also look for '$GPRMC' lines. Here again the second field it the 
utc time and eigth filed is the date in DDMMYY  format.

For more info  about these senteences have a look at
http://home.mira.net/~gnb/gps/nmea.html

HTH


-- 
mr. M01510 & guide Loadstone-GPS


On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Norbert M?ller wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I had to purchase a Holux M1000C, since my favorite - the regular M1000 - was 
> not available any more.
>
> The new device seemed to work fine - until I checked the time. I noticed, the 
> clock had been set one hour back. Thinking I could correct that within the 
> loadstone settings, I tried to do so. However, when I briefly quit Loadstone 
> I noticed that also the date had been changed from July 31, 2010 to March 16, 
> 2030.
>
> The time and date gets changed even if I turn the synchronizing of GPS Time 
> and mobile phone off in Loadstone.
>
> So far, neither I nor my dealer was able to figure out where this problem 
> comes from. Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> And while I'm at it: Does Loadstone work well with the Wintec BT 202?
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Norbert
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>

From nm-listen at millernorbert.de  Tue Aug  3 18:52:39 2010
From: nm-listen at millernorbert.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Norbert_M=FCller?=)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 19:52:39 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] Problem with Holux M1000 C
References: <4C5732EC.7050406@upcmail.nl><Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021437470.21479@odyssey.shawnk.ca><96EE29D8509D4272AB0788E6A116F447@31BF457DCA>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.1008031712570.9978@arimo.local>
Message-ID: <66FA93F5216C4638BD9FD71CA6C2EBC6@31BF457DCA>

Hello Ari,

thanks for the information. I guess that I must start nmea logging with the 
logging function in the Loadstone GPS Menu. If that is correct and if the 
date as interpreted by Loadstone does not have any influence on the log 
file, I created a log file which clearly showed the correct time in UTC and 
the date 190330.

I'll send this log file to my GPS dealer and show him that what he tells me 
is technically impossible somehow is still true.

Thanks for your help,


Norbert


From Reisender at online.de  Thu Aug  5 19:35:32 2010
From: Reisender at online.de (Per)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 20:35:32 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] OVI Maps and more, Fw: A Rare Chance to Influence Nokia
Message-ID: <9BA97C6B855244629295B5FA2EAF6E6A@buschc9988c30e>

Worth forwarding...

From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
To: <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 6:58 PM
Subject: A Rare Chance to Influence Nokia


> `All, the Nokia Ovi Blog is presently running a story about someone who is
> visually impaired using Ovi Maps. This person has enough vision to use his
> phone without any assistive technology, but the important thing is that it
> has drawn Nokia's attention to the fact that people with less than 20/20
> vision can really benefit from ovi Maps. Marcus Grober from Nuance has
> already left a couple of great comments about the difference the Ovi team
> could make if they addressed some of the accessibility issues in the user
> interface. This would be a good time for us to submit respectful comments 
> on
> this issue, while we have Nokia's attention. The URL is
> http://u.nu/2zvde
>
> Jonathan


From d.aggelen3 at upcmail.nl  Thu Aug  5 20:06:45 2010
From: d.aggelen3 at upcmail.nl (Dick&Yvonne van Aggelen)
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:06:45 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] GPS connection
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021441070.21479@odyssey.shawnk.ca>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021441070.21479@odyssey.shawnk.ca>
Message-ID: <4C5B0BC5.2010609@upcmail.nl>

Hi, Dave wrote as an answer to my question to go to settings and to 
select external or internal GPS. As I wrote in my message, I had done 
that already without result. But anyway thanks, for writing. I'll search 
further to see if I did something wrong.
Commenting on Dave, Shawn wrote that apparently this applies to an older 
version. What about the newer version? At the moment I don't have the 
phone at hand to check which version is installed on it. But I will 
check it shortly. Thanks Shawn, for iving this hint.
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From d.aggelen3 at upcmail.nl  Thu Aug  5 20:14:58 2010
From: d.aggelen3 at upcmail.nl (Dick&Yvonne van Aggelen)
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:14:58 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] GPS connection
In-Reply-To: <FAAA48BD961D4634853B847AE5F11FE5@ambankgroup.ahb.com>
References: <FAAA48BD961D4634853B847AE5F11FE5@ambankgroup.ahb.com>
Message-ID: <4C5B0DB2.7010704@upcmail.nl>

Hi,
I just read that Kit gives some valuable advice, but what is meant by 
disconnecting and reconnecting? Is that in the setting menu of loadstone 
or in the phone? or do you mean to shut down loadstone completely? 
Thanks for helping thinking about my problem.
Dick
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From jacobk at mailzone.co.za  Thu Aug  5 20:15:27 2010
From: jacobk at mailzone.co.za (Jacob Kruger)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 21:15:27 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] OVI Maps and more,
	Fw: A Rare Chance to Influence Nokia
References: <9BA97C6B855244629295B5FA2EAF6E6A@buschc9988c30e>
Message-ID: <5D1E2CEC0FE24A2F9F730E423DD39BEC@rwilco>

Ok, BTW, only trick with that comment form is there's no button to submit 
it, so after filling in comment field, go back to one of the normal single 
line text fields, and hit enter to submit form.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Per" <Reisender at online.de>
To: "Loadstone list" <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:35 PM
Subject: [Loadstone] OVI Maps and more, Fw: A Rare Chance to Influence Nokia


> Worth forwarding...
>
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
> To: <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 6:58 PM
> Subject: A Rare Chance to Influence Nokia
>
>
>> `All, the Nokia Ovi Blog is presently running a story about someone who 
>> is
>> visually impaired using Ovi Maps. This person has enough vision to use 
>> his
>> phone without any assistive technology, but the important thing is that 
>> it
>> has drawn Nokia's attention to the fact that people with less than 20/20
>> vision can really benefit from ovi Maps. Marcus Grober from Nuance has
>> already left a couple of great comments about the difference the Ovi team
>> could make if they addressed some of the accessibility issues in the user
>> interface. This would be a good time for us to submit respectful comments 
>> on
>> this issue, while we have Nokia's attention. The URL is
>> http://u.nu/2zvde
>>
>> Jonathan
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
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From yesiltas1981 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 22:33:50 2010
From: yesiltas1981 at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D6mer_Yesiltas?=)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 00:33:50 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] OVI Maps and more,
	Fw: A Rare Chance to Influence Nokia
In-Reply-To: <5D1E2CEC0FE24A2F9F730E423DD39BEC@rwilco>
References: <9BA97C6B855244629295B5FA2EAF6E6A@buschc9988c30e>
	<5D1E2CEC0FE24A2F9F730E423DD39BEC@rwilco>
Message-ID: <AD229484FD4D4C339AF241C420FFC329@merBilgisayar>

yeah, the website even is inaccessible at some point. You can go to name 
edit field and press enter again after turning the forms mode on if you use 
jaws.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk at mailzone.co.za>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:15 PM
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] OVI Maps and more,Fw: A Rare Chance to Influence 
Nokia

> Ok, BTW, only trick with that comment form is there's no button to submit 
> it, so after filling in comment field, go back to one of the normal single 
> line text fields, and hit enter to submit form.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Per" <Reisender at online.de>
> To: "Loadstone list" <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:35 PM
> Subject: [Loadstone] OVI Maps and more, Fw: A Rare Chance to Influence 
> Nokia
>
>
>> Worth forwarding...
>>
>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
>> To: <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 6:58 PM
>> Subject: A Rare Chance to Influence Nokia
>>
>>
>>> `All, the Nokia Ovi Blog is presently running a story about someone who 
>>> is
>>> visually impaired using Ovi Maps. This person has enough vision to use 
>>> his
>>> phone without any assistive technology, but the important thing is that 
>>> it
>>> has drawn Nokia's attention to the fact that people with less than 20/20
>>> vision can really benefit from ovi Maps. Marcus Grober from Nuance has
>>> already left a couple of great comments about the difference the Ovi 
>>> team
>>> could make if they addressed some of the accessibility issues in the 
>>> user
>>> interface. This would be a good time for us to submit respectful 
>>> comments on
>>> this issue, while we have Nokia's attention. The URL is
>>> http://u.nu/2zvde
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
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From yesiltas1981 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 22:35:32 2010
From: yesiltas1981 at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D6mer_Yesiltas?=)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 00:35:32 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] GPS connection
In-Reply-To: <4C5B0DB2.7010704@upcmail.nl>
References: <FAAA48BD961D4634853B847AE5F11FE5@ambankgroup.ahb.com>
	<4C5B0DB2.7010704@upcmail.nl>
Message-ID: <249E307E8EB446A79BABAAC5FEA2A252@merBilgisayar>

Hi, there is a gps sub menu in loadstone when you press options. You can select disconnect gps or disconnect default gps if you set default. You can connect gps by selecting connect default gps if you set default or you can select find gps and select one of the options there.


From: Dick&Yvonne van Aggelen 
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:14 PM
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] GPS connection


Hi,
I just read that Kit gives some valuable advice, but what is meant by disconnecting and reconnecting? Is that in the setting menu of loadstone or in the phone? or do you mean to shut down loadstone completely? Thanks for helping thinking about my problem.
Dick



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From yesiltas1981 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  5 22:36:44 2010
From: yesiltas1981 at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D6mer_Yesiltas?=)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 00:36:44 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] GPS connection
In-Reply-To: <4C5B0BC5.2010609@upcmail.nl>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1008021441070.21479@odyssey.shawnk.ca>
	<4C5B0BC5.2010609@upcmail.nl>
Message-ID: <8DE282938D6B4597B2E3999BD5E274EC@merBilgisayar>

Hi, you can learn what version of loadstone you have by pressing options and selecting about.


From: Dick&Yvonne van Aggelen 
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:06 PM
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] GPS connection


Hi, Dave wrote as an answer to my question to go to settings and to select external or internal GPS. As I wrote in my message, I had done that already without result. But anyway thanks, for writing. I'll search further to see if I did something wrong.
Commenting on Dave, Shawn wrote that apparently this applies to an older version. What about the newer version? At the moment I don't have the phone at hand to check which version is installed on it. But I will check it shortly. Thanks Shawn, for iving this hint.
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From hurrikenny at slingshot.co.nz  Mon Aug  9 01:29:04 2010
From: hurrikenny at slingshot.co.nz (Kennydog)
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 12:29:04 +1200
Subject: [Loadstone] Root generator for google maps
Message-ID: <4C5F4BD0.5020700@slingshot.co.nz>

Hi there

Can anyone help me.

I have just come back from holidays, and where I used to put in a 
starting address say home and a ending address say a 2 dollar shop say 
in town and go through the process to get my checkpoints for my little 
trip to go by, I have notice the same link now is not in english and I 
can not use it.  The site is http://groute.loadstone-gps.pl/index.php?l=en
It seems now its not there or not in English.  Is there another site we 
can use now to do the same thing or is the site down and when if or will 
it be back up again?
If there is another site like it in English could someone point me 
towards it please  or is it a wrong link in its space?
Any help would be welcomed

Gene

From jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com  Mon Aug  9 01:59:37 2010
From: jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com (Jeff Kenyon)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 20:59:37 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] Root generator for google maps
In-Reply-To: <4C5F4BD0.5020700@slingshot.co.nz>
References: <4C5F4BD0.5020700@slingshot.co.nz>
Message-ID: <8D9B8FCC88AF465497A42FE92CBB29C1@JeffsPC>

I was jus going to post that too the page I had favorited that was down for 
a bit and then had the log in prompt and then no way of registering, and now 
the Polish Page is back.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kennydog" <hurrikenny at slingshot.co.nz>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:29 PM
Subject: [Loadstone] Root generator for google maps


> Hi there
>
> Can anyone help me.
>
> I have just come back from holidays, and where I used to put in a
> starting address say home and a ending address say a 2 dollar shop say
> in town and go through the process to get my checkpoints for my little
> trip to go by, I have notice the same link now is not in english and I
> can not use it.  The site is http://groute.loadstone-gps.pl/index.php?l=en
> It seems now its not there or not in English.  Is there another site we
> can use now to do the same thing or is the site down and when if or will
> it be back up again?
> If there is another site like it in English could someone point me
> towards it please  or is it a wrong link in its space?
> Any help would be welcomed
>
> Gene
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone


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From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 11 23:24:48 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:24:48 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] LS point converter.
Message-ID: <005a01cb39a4$08186f70$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>

Hi to all,

I have gone through tools in LoadStone and only found tools to convert from Degree, M and S to Decimals for LS purposes.

Anyone know of any converter from LS decimal points to Atmosphere, Degree, M and S please?

Need to convert some of my favorite points back for OVI Maps.


Thanks in advance,
KITT.
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From rob at loadstone-gps.com  Thu Aug 12 19:47:05 2010
From: rob at loadstone-gps.com (Rob Melchers)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:47:05 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] Off-line tools updated
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20100812204448.00a71418@pop.planet.nl>

Hi all,

The off-line tools now include a blind-friendly version of Google's 
Directions service (route generator). You can download the off-line tools 
from the 'Tools' page on the Loadstone-GPS website. The computer that runs 
the tools should be connected to the internet for this tool to work.

Rob


From g.giudice at balcab.ch  Fri Aug 13 06:36:10 2010
From: g.giudice at balcab.ch (Gianfranco Giudice)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:36:10 -0700
Subject: [Loadstone] Error on PS
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20100812204448.00a71418@pop.planet.nl>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20100812204448.00a71418@pop.planet.nl>
Message-ID: <006e01cb3aa9$70451250$1eb2a8c0@privatea742281>

Hi

This page has some errors.
http://pse.loadstone-gps.com/export2.php
I cannot download any Swiss data.

Gian


From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 13 04:02:14 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:02:14 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] Off-line tools updated
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20100812204448.00a71418@pop.planet.nl>
Message-ID: <F28B5185D98E4E70BE0D76A17C2D3392@ambankgroup.ahb.com>

Weird right.  It's call Off-Line tools but need to be on-Line. hehehe.

Cheers!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Melchers" <rob at loadstone-gps.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 2:47 AM
Subject: [Loadstone] Off-line tools updated


Hi all,

The off-line tools now include a blind-friendly version of Google's 
Directions service (route generator). You can download the off-line tools 
from the 'Tools' page on the Loadstone-GPS website. The computer that runs 
the tools should be connected to the internet for this tool to work.

Rob

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From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 13 04:04:58 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:04:58 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] Fw: GPS Coordinate converter.
Message-ID: <D240B611043745C89518C34967FF2AC1@ambankgroup.ahb.com>

> Hi to all gps users,
>
> I need a converter to convert from decimal coordinate to degree coordinate
> which is from LoadStone to OVI Maps format.
>
> I prefer a converter which could be installed on a phone itself.
>
> Any idea of such program for symbian nokia phones?
>
> Thanks,
> KITT.


From charlie at loadstone-gps.com  Fri Aug 13 06:02:10 2010
From: charlie at loadstone-gps.com (Charlie)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:02:10 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] LS point converter.
In-Reply-To: <005a01cb39a4$08186f70$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>
References: <005a01cb39a4$08186f70$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>
Message-ID: <6442251203.20100813070210@dekadent.net>

Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone know of any converter from LS decimal points to Atmosphere,
> Degree, M and S please?

<http://www.fizzymagic.net/Geocaching/FizzyCalc/>

> Need to convert some of my favorite points back for OVI Maps.

On your Mobile anywhere in the menu must be an entry called "Landmarks" or
similar. Just call this and create a new Landmark, there you can enter the
coordinates in decimal format and feel lucky. After this you can use this
landmark with OVI Maps also.

Btw,  it would be nice if you don't send your mail in HTML format.

@Monty - or whoever manages the mailman: there is a feature to strip off
the useless HTML  content and convert it to plain text. May you look after
this in the mailman configuration?

Btw^2: actually I'm collecting some donations for loadstone again, at this
moment there's an amount of 300 EUR, hope to get some more and after a
while I'll transfer it to you again. So stay tuned. :-)

regards,
Bert


From lex at progger.ru  Fri Aug 13 07:24:59 2010
From: lex at progger.ru (Lex)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:24:59 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] course in new loadstone
Message-ID: <4C64E53B.6020100@progger.ru>

  Hi loadstone devs,

Looking through change log I see mesages about new functionality in the 
upcoming loadstone called course notification:
07-05-2010 Started work on corse notification.
07-14-2010 Made it possible to set a course.
07-18-2010 Got course notification mostly working.
and so on.
Can you explain briefly what is all that about?

Thanks!

Lex

From monty at loadstone-gps.com  Fri Aug 13 07:30:55 2010
From: monty at loadstone-gps.com (monty at loadstone-gps.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:30:55 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Loadstone] course in new loadstone
In-Reply-To: <4C64E53B.6020100@progger.ru>
References: <4C64E53B.6020100@progger.ru>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1008130727350.17774@zvyyraavhz.op.pk>


Hi Lex,


We do not as a rule comment on items that have not appeared in official 
releases.  This is because sometimes we implement feature ideas that later 
get very revised or sometimes eliminated.  This sailing feature is one 
such item.

Any official changes will appear in the notes accompanying the official 
release.

Monty


nOn Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Lex wrote:

> Hi loadstone devs,
>
> Looking through change log I see mesages about new functionality in the 
> upcoming loadstone called course notification:
> 07-05-2010 Started work on corse notification.
> 07-14-2010 Made it possible to set a course.
> 07-18-2010 Got course notification mostly working.
> and so on.
> Can you explain briefly what is all that about?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lex
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>

From lex at progger.ru  Fri Aug 13 09:45:58 2010
From: lex at progger.ru (Lex)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:45:58 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file problem
Message-ID: <4C650646.3060405@progger.ru>

  Hi all,

As part of my gps4blinds.ru project, I have written an extended version 
of groute service (many thanks original developers for the idea). One of 
the features is an ability to generate route from your current location 
or from position of selected point in loadstone. It is achieved by 
automatic form-filling based on latitude and longitude received from 
loadstone in the get request.

There are two buttons on the webpage: "view route" and "download route". 
When user presses the second one, server generates appropriate 
checkpoints file with all the headers set as it is described in 
file_formats file.
http mimetype is set to 'application/loadstone.checkpoints'
first line in the file is
!lscp

All goes well until I press the "download route" button in the browser 
that loadstone opens from online tools menu.
I assume it will bring me a dialog whether I want to save a downloaded 
checkpoints to the loadstone checkpoints folder, but instead of this, it 
opens a new instance of the loadstone application which complains about 
unabling to load the database (perhaps because it is locked by first 
instance of loadstone) and doesn't ask me about checkpoints file at all.

How I can achieve the expected behavior?

Thanks in advance,
Lex

From rob at loadstone-gps.com  Fri Aug 13 12:10:32 2010
From: rob at loadstone-gps.com (Rob Melchers)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:10:32 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file  problem
In-Reply-To: <4C650646.3060405@progger.ru>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20100813130905.00a72148@mail.loadstone-gps.com>

The mime-type header should read:
#!lscp



From lex at progger.ru  Fri Aug 13 13:02:15 2010
From: lex at progger.ru (Lex)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:02:15 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file  problem
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20100813130905.00a72148@mail.loadstone-gps.com>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20100813130905.00a72148@mail.loadstone-gps.com>
Message-ID: <4C653447.20400@progger.ru>

  13.08.2010 14:10, Rob Melchers ?????:
> The mime-type header should read:
> #!lscp
Yeah, it is a first line of generated file. Or do you mean the content 
of http mime-type header also must be !lscp? it is very non-standart. 
Anyway, i think that loadstone understands somehow that this file is 
related to the program, but it opens the new instance and things start 
to fail.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Lex

From monty at loadstone-gps.com  Fri Aug 13 13:32:24 2010
From: monty at loadstone-gps.com (monty at loadstone-gps.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:32:24 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file  problem
In-Reply-To: <4C653447.20400@progger.ru>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20100813130905.00a72148@mail.loadstone-gps.com>
	<4C653447.20400@progger.ru>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1008131317010.3600@zvyyraavhz.op.pk>

Lex,

The first line in your Loadstone check points file (lscp) should be

#!lscp

(as Rob stated)

This mimetype is handled by your phone's recognizer rather than Loadstone.

We always try and follow Symbian standards wherever possible (they tend to 
be quite confusing or non-existent) but if you know of some Symbian 
standards that we aren't following (but should be) please do share them!

Also, I have not experienced the problem you describe of a second instance 
of Loadstone being launched by the recognizer.  Normally, clicking on a 
link will display the file on screen in the browser, you then need to 
close the browser and Loadstone picks up the downloaded file from a 
recognizer trigger.  A far from perfect or eligant method but once again 
we are limited to the S60 browser and recognizer etc!

Take a look at the off-line tools to see how this works.

Monty


  On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Lex wrote:

> 13.08.2010 14:10, Rob Melchers ?????:
>> The mime-type header should read:
>> #!lscp
> Yeah, it is a first line of generated file. Or do you mean the content of http 
> mime-type header also must be !lscp? it is very non-standart. Anyway, i think 
> that loadstone understands somehow that this file is related to the program, 
> but it opens the new instance and things start to fail.
> Please correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Lex
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>

From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 13 15:57:10 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:57:10 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] LS point converter.
References: <005a01cb39a4$08186f70$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>
	<6442251203.20100813070210@dekadent.net>
Message-ID: <007a01cb3af7$e8225b90$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>

Hi Charlie,

Do you know of any symbian s60 converting program? which could be installed on a phone?

Thanks,
KITT.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Charlie 
To: Kit 
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] LS point converter.


Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone know of any converter from LS decimal points to Atmosphere,
> Degree, M and S please?

<http://www.fizzymagic.net/Geocaching/FizzyCalc/>

> Need to convert some of my favorite points back for OVI Maps.

On your Mobile anywhere in the menu must be an entry called "Landmarks" or
similar. Just call this and create a new Landmark, there you can enter the
coordinates in decimal format and feel lucky. After this you can use this
landmark with OVI Maps also.

Btw,  it would be nice if you don't send your mail in HTML format.

@Monty - or whoever manages the mailman: there is a feature to strip off
the useless HTML  content and convert it to plain text. May you look after
this in the mailman configuration?

Btw^2: actually I'm collecting some donations for loadstone again, at this
moment there's an amount of 300 EUR, hope to get some more and after a
while I'll transfer it to you again. So stay tuned. :-)

regards,
Bert

_______________________________________________
Loadstone mailing list
Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
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From shawn at loadstone-gps.com  Sat Aug 14 00:51:30 2010
From: shawn at loadstone-gps.com (Shawn Kirkpatrick)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file  problem
In-Reply-To: <4C653447.20400@progger.ru>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20100813130905.00a72148@mail.loadstone-gps.com>
	<4C653447.20400@progger.ru>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1008131649340.28564@odyssey.shawnk.ca>

What phone is this happening on? The behaviour of the browser and downloaded 
files may be different depending on phone model. I haven't seen the 
behaviour you describe and nobody reported it in testing before the release 
but maybe you're using a phone that hasn't been tested yet.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Lex wrote:

> 13.08.2010 14:10, Rob Melchers ?????:
>> The mime-type header should read:
>> #!lscp
> Yeah, it is a first line of generated file. Or do you mean the content of 
> http mime-type header also must be !lscp? it is very non-standart. Anyway, i 
> think that loadstone understands somehow that this file is related to the 
> program, but it opens the new instance and things start to fail.
> Please correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Lex
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>

From lex at progger.ru  Sat Aug 14 12:24:16 2010
From: lex at progger.ru (Lex)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:24:16 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file  problem
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1008131317010.3600@zvyyraavhz.op.pk>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20100813130905.00a72148@mail.loadstone-gps.com>	<4C653447.20400@progger.ru>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.1008131317010.3600@zvyyraavhz.op.pk>
Message-ID: <4C667CE0.6080700@progger.ru>

  Hi,

13.08.2010 15:32, monty at loadstone-gps.com ?????:
> The first line in your Loadstone check points file (lscp) should be
>
> #!lscp
>
> (as Rob stated)
Indeed it is so. I write "#!lscp\n" at start. I attach an example file 
that is generated by my tool for you to look. One difference I found 
with that generated by offline-tools is that I am using unix line 
endings. Can it be an issue?
> We always try and follow Symbian standards wherever possible (they 
> tend to be quite confusing or non-existent) but if you know of some 
> Symbian standards that we aren't following (but should be) please do 
> share them!
>
I think that was misunderstanding. Rob statet that mime type must be 
#!lscp, where as I wrote that I set the http mimetype header to 
"application/loadstone.checkpoints" according to the file_formats:
file_header mime_type description
#!lsdb application/loadstone.database (text representation of loadstone 
databases)
#!lscp application/loadstone.checkpoints (loadstone checkpoints file)
He said that mimetype must be #!lscp, and I noted that it is pretty 
non-standart because mime types are in form of "text/plain" or 
"application/gzip-encoded" and so on. Well, mimetype and file 
header/signature are different things.
> Also, I have not experienced the problem you describe of a second 
> instance of Loadstone being launched by the recognizer.  Normally, 
> clicking on a link will display the file on screen in the browser, you 
> then need to close the browser and Loadstone picks up the downloaded 
> file from a recognizer trigger.  A far from perfect or eligant method 
> but once again we are limited to the S60 browser and recognizer etc!
I will be happy if my phone will behave in that way, but it doesn't for 
now :-(

Lex
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From lex at progger.ru  Sat Aug 14 12:25:55 2010
From: lex at progger.ru (Lex)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:25:55 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file  problem
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1008131649340.28564@odyssey.shawnk.ca>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20100813130905.00a72148@mail.loadstone-gps.com>	<4C653447.20400@progger.ru>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.1008131649340.28564@odyssey.shawnk.ca>
Message-ID: <4C667D43.50102@progger.ru>

  Hi Shawn,

14.08.2010 2:51, Shawn Kirkpatrick ?????:
> What phone is this happening on? 
Nokia E52.
> The behaviour of the browser and downloaded files may be different 
> depending on phone model. I haven't seen the behaviour you describe 
> and nobody reported it in testing before the release but maybe you're 
> using a phone that hasn't been tested yet.
I was in testing team but I haven't checked how downloading works.


Lex

From poretsky at mlbox.ru  Sat Aug 14 13:27:21 2010
From: poretsky at mlbox.ru (Igor B. Poretsky)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:27:21 +0400
Subject: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file  problem
In-Reply-To: <4C667CE0.6080700@progger.ru> (lex@progger.ru's message of "Sat\,
	14 Aug 2010 14\:24\:16 +0300")
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20100813130905.00a72148@mail.loadstone-gps.com>
	<4C653447.20400@progger.ru>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.1008131317010.3600@zvyyraavhz.op.pk>
	<4C667CE0.6080700@progger.ru>
Message-ID: <871va1tm52.fsf@home-desktop.localdomain>

Hello!

As I see, the leading "#" symbol is omitted in your example. Maybe it
is the issue?

Best regards,
Igor.

>>>>> "Lex" == Lex  <lex at progger.ru> writes:

    Lex>  Hi, 13.08.2010 15:32, monty at loadstone-gps.com ?????:
    >> The first line in your Loadstone check points file (lscp)
    >> should be
    >> 
    >> #!lscp
    >> 
    >> (as Rob stated)
    Lex> Indeed it is so. I write "#!lscp\n" at start. I attach an
    Lex> example file that is generated by my tool for you to
    Lex> look. One difference I found with that generated by
    Lex> offline-tools is that I am using unix line endings. Can it be
    Lex> an issue?
    >> We always try and follow Symbian standards wherever possible
    >> (they tend to be quite confusing or non-existent) but if you
    >> know of some Symbian standards that we aren't following (but
    >> should be) please do share them!
    >> 
    Lex> I think that was misunderstanding. Rob statet that mime type
    Lex> must be #!lscp, where as I wrote that I set the http mimetype
    Lex> header to "application/loadstone.checkpoints" according to
    Lex> the file_formats: file_header mime_type description #!lsdb
    Lex> application/loadstone.database (text representation of
    Lex> loadstone databases) #!lscp application/loadstone.checkpoints
    Lex> (loadstone checkpoints file) He said that mimetype must be
    Lex> #!lscp, and I noted that it is pretty non-standart because
    Lex> mime types are in form of "text/plain" or
    Lex> "application/gzip-encoded" and so on. Well, mimetype and file
    Lex> header/signature are different things.
    >> Also, I have not experienced the problem you describe of a
    >> second instance of Loadstone being launched by the recognizer.
    >> Normally, clicking on a link will display the file on screen in
    >> the browser, you then need to close the browser and Loadstone
    >> picks up the downloaded file from a recognizer trigger.  A far
    >> from perfect or eligant method but once again we are limited to
    >> the S60 browser and recognizer etc!
    Lex> I will be happy if my phone will behave in that way, but it
    Lex> doesn't for now :-(

    Lex> Lex

    Lex> !lscp 304647200,504708600,"1. ????????????? ?? ???-?????? ??
    Lex> ?????????? ??. ? ???????????
    Lex> ????????????",1,0,0,57117,1281784554,"????? 280??"
    Lex> 304679800,504693600,"2. ????????? ?????? ?? ??????????? ?
    Lex> ???????? ??.",1,0,0,57117,1281784555,"????? 700??"
    Lex> 304739300,504743900,"3. ????????? ?????? ?? ??????????? ?
    Lex> ???????????? ?????",1,0,0,57117,1281784556,"????? 260??"
    Lex> 304729400,504764000,"4. ????????? ?????? ? ???????????
    Lex> ???????? ?? ???????????? ?????",1,0,0,57117,1281784557,"?????
    Lex> 500??" 304723600,504805400,"5. ??????? ??????? ???????, ?????
    Lex> ???????? ?? ???????????? ?????",1,0,0,57117,1281784558,"?????
    Lex> 290??" 304758600,504818800,"6. ??????????? ???????? ??
    Lex> ?????????? ?????",1,0,0,57117,1281784559,"????? 150??"
    Lex> 304761400,504830800,"7. ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????
    Lex> ??.",1,0,0,57117,1281784560,"????? 350??"
    Lex> 304735800,504855000,"8. ??????? ??????? ??????, ?????
    Lex> ?????????? ???????? ?? ??????
    Lex> ??.",1,0,0,57117,1281784561,"????? 170??"
    Lex> 304718700,504865700,"9. ????????? ??????? ? ???????????
    Lex> ?????? ????? ??.",1,0,0,57117,1281784562,"????? 170??"
    Lex> 304739800,504871200,"10. ??????????? ???????? ?? ?????? ?????
    Lex> ??.",1,0,0,57117,1281784563,"????? 350??"
    Lex> 304788000,504880900,"11. ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????????
    Lex> ?????.",1,0,0,57117,1281784564,"????? 2,0???"
    Lex> 305071400,504889100,"12. ????????? ?????? ?? ??????????? ?
    Lex> ????? ?????? ??.",1,0,0,57117,1281784565,"????? 170??"
    Lex> 305071800,504904800,"13. ???????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?
    Lex> ?????????? ??.  ????? ??????????
    Lex> ?????",1,0,0,57117,1281784566,"????? 500??"
    Lex> 305139110,504912440,"14. ???????? ?: ?????????? ??., 10?,
    Lex> ????, ???????",1,0,0,57117,1281784567,""
    Lex> _______________________________________________ Loadstone
    Lex> mailing list Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
    Lex> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone

From lex at progger.ru  Sat Aug 14 13:33:53 2010
From: lex at progger.ru (Lex)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:33:53 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file  problem
In-Reply-To: <4C667CE0.6080700@progger.ru>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20100813130905.00a72148@mail.loadstone-gps.com>	<4C653447.20400@progger.ru>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.1008131317010.3600@zvyyraavhz.op.pk>
	<4C667CE0.6080700@progger.ru>
Message-ID: <4C668D31.5@progger.ru>

  14.08.2010 14:24, Lex ?????:
> 13.08.2010 15:32, monty at loadstone-gps.com ?????:
>> The first line in your Loadstone check points file (lscp) should be
>>
>> #!lscp
Sorry. I double checked and it appears that i wrote "!lscp" instead of 
"#!lscp" (that is, without number sign at a beginning). I'll fix that 
and let you know how it goes.

Lex

From krecoun at gmail.com  Sat Aug 14 14:03:45 2010
From: krecoun at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Vm9qdMSbY2ggUG9sw6HFoWVr?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:03:45 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
Message-ID: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>

Hello loadstoners,
I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched 
voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several other 
languages including finish and chinese.
It even announces to you names of streets.
You must have the latest version of  official nokia ovi maps - I can 
host it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility 
is somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of 
list if you don't want it posted here.
The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is 
very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the 
road, but it's worth trying.
Vojta

From orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 14 15:10:24 2010
From: orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com (Laura Glowacki)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:10:24 -0600
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>

As I understand it, this information is just as welcome as it is related to 
GPS solutions for the visually impaired.  Thank you for sharing.  It is 
probably something I will be looking in to in the future.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:03 AM
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia


> Hello loadstoners,
> I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched 
> voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several other 
> languages including finish and chinese.
> It even announces to you names of streets.
> You must have the latest version of  official nokia ovi maps - I can host 
> it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility is 
> somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of list if 
> you don't want it posted here.
> The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is 
> very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the 
> road, but it's worth trying.
> Vojta
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> 


From vadhimoolam at gmail.com  Sat Aug 14 15:06:20 2010
From: vadhimoolam at gmail.com (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:06:20 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>
	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>
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As I understand, Nokia ovi maps are accesible in very few latest
models like the N97, N86 etc. If the poi content includes places other
than publically available maps, then there is a fair chance that ls
users can benifit out of it. Vetri.

On 14/08/2010, Laura Glowacki <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com> wrote:
> As I understand it, this information is just as welcome as it is related to
> GPS solutions for the visually impaired.  Thank you for sharing.  It is
> probably something I will be looking in to in the future.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:03 AM
> Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>
>
>> Hello loadstoners,
>> I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched
>> voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several other
>> languages including finish and chinese.
>> It even announces to you names of streets.
>> You must have the latest version of  official nokia ovi maps - I can host
>> it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility is
>> somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of list if
>>
>> you don't want it posted here.
>> The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is
>> very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the
>> road, but it's worth trying.
>> Vojta
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>

From tempjayren at gmail.com  Sat Aug 14 15:08:39 2010
From: tempjayren at gmail.com (tempjayren at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:08:39 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C66A367.6080603@gmail.com>

  heavens yes. i'll give it a go. though send me off list so as to not 
spam the list.
i'd be happy to report back my success or failure with the product here 
to let others know.


On 8/14/2010 9:03 AM, Vojt?ch Pol??ek wrote:
> Hello loadstoners,
> I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched 
> voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several 
> other languages including finish and chinese.
> It even announces to you names of streets.
> You must have the latest version of official nokia ovi maps - I can 
> host it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility 
> is somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of 
> list if you don't want it posted here.
> The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is 
> very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the 
> road, but it's worth trying.
> Vojta
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone

From muktaketan at gmail.com  Sat Aug 14 15:32:27 2010
From: muktaketan at gmail.com (Ketan Kothari)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:02:27 +0530
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com><B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>
	<AANLkTinS=a4Qaw0=EQCZs-exRasuq8bsyvLVQf8+8Q+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B4C7F01F367D4D71922217E8DD0A4A22@gateway669543a>



From lex at progger.ru  Sat Aug 14 15:42:29 2010
From: lex at progger.ru (Lex)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:42:29 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file  problem
In-Reply-To: <4C668D31.5@progger.ru>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20100813130905.00a72148@mail.loadstone-gps.com>	<4C653447.20400@progger.ru>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.1008131317010.3600@zvyyraavhz.op.pk>
	<4C667CE0.6080700@progger.ru> <4C668D31.5@progger.ru>
Message-ID: <4C66AB55.3020006@progger.ru>

  14.08.2010 15:33, Lex ?????:
> I'll fix that and let you know how it goes.
Now it works as expected. Apologises for false alarm.

Lex

From jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com  Sat Aug 14 20:01:21 2010
From: jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com (Jeff Kenyon)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:01:21 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>
	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC>

Is there a certain brand of phone?  I'd be interested in trying it some 
time.  If you want to either post it here or Email me off line that would be 
great.  Do you know if it announces businesses you have around you or what 
you pass?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia


As I understand it, this information is just as welcome as it is related to
GPS solutions for the visually impaired.  Thank you for sharing.  It is
probably something I will be looking in to in the future.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:03 AM
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia


> Hello loadstoners,
> I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched
> voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several other
> languages including finish and chinese.
> It even announces to you names of streets.
> You must have the latest version of  official nokia ovi maps - I can host
> it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility is
> somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of list if
> you don't want it posted here.
> The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is
> very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the
> road, but it's worth trying.
> Vojta
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>

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Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone


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From vadhimoolam at gmail.com  Sun Aug 15 02:22:29 2010
From: vadhimoolam at gmail.com (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 21:22:29 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>
	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>
	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC>
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Nokia. Latest third edition and all the fifth editions. Vetri.

On 14/08/2010, Jeff Kenyon <jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> Is there a certain brand of phone?  I'd be interested in trying it some
> time.  If you want to either post it here or Email me off line that would be
> great.  Do you know if it announces businesses you have around you or what
> you pass?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Laura Glowacki" <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>
>
> As I understand it, this information is just as welcome as it is related to
> GPS solutions for the visually impaired.  Thank you for sharing.  It is
> probably something I will be looking in to in the future.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:03 AM
> Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>
>
>> Hello loadstoners,
>> I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched
>> voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several other
>> languages including finish and chinese.
>> It even announces to you names of streets.
>> You must have the latest version of  official nokia ovi maps - I can host
>> it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility is
>> somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of list if
>> you don't want it posted here.
>> The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is
>> very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the
>> road, but it's worth trying.
>> Vojta
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
>
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>
>
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From 4253.cassios at bradesco.com.br  Mon Aug 16 12:40:49 2010
From: 4253.cassios at bradesco.com.br (CASSIO DOS SANTOS)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:40:49 -0300
Subject: [Loadstone] RES:  interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D4DB1BA569DFF45BD66F074E4B4588910AA216C@MZ-VS-EX-001D.corpr.bradesco.com.br>



hi, 

I would like to test this.

If possible.

thanks!
 


Atenciosamente: 

BANCO BRADESCO S.A.

4253 / Desenvolvimento de Sistemas

Grupo 469 - Escrit?rio de Projetos

C?ssio Santos

Tel.: (+5511) 4197-2760 R: 2-2760 Fax: (+5511) 4197-2669

 


-----Mensagem original-----
De: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] Em nome de Vojtech Pol??ek
Enviada em: s?bado, 14 de agosto de 2010 10:04
Para: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Assunto: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia

Hello loadstoners,
I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several other languages including finish and chinese.
It even announces to you names of streets.
You must have the latest version of  official nokia ovi maps - I can host it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility is somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of list if you don't want it posted here.
The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the road, but it's worth trying.
Vojta
_______________________________________________
Loadstone mailing list
Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone

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From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 17 05:52:05 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:52:05 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file  problem
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20100813130905.00a72148@mail.loadstone-gps.com>	<4C653447.20400@progger.ru><alpine.DEB.2.00.1008131317010.3600@zvyyraavhz.op.pk><4C667CE0.6080700@progger.ru>
	<4C668D31.5@progger.ru> <4C66AB55.3020006@progger.ru>
Message-ID: <6BA3CEBFDF584B57A505857925A0AB19@ambankgroup.ahb.com>

LOL Lex!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lex" <lex at progger.ru>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] automatic recognizing of Checkpoint file problem


  14.08.2010 15:33, Lex ?????:
> I'll fix that and let you know how it goes.
Now it works as expected. Apologises for false alarm.

Lex
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From dleavens at puc.net  Thu Aug 19 02:28:20 2010
From: dleavens at puc.net (Dale Leavens)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:28:20 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] How do I set an end point when traveling?
Message-ID: <99D843F97BE54ED29D5B443DD3566097@JanetPC>

Good evening Loadstoners,

Yesterday I was riding in a car from Lindsay Ontario up here to Cochrane. I decided to play with Loadstone. I have a fairly large database loaded with points from around here including one I created at the bottom of my driveway I call Home. I loaded the database and checkpoints and in Navigation mode began monitoring our progress north.

Pressing the #1 key would give speed and direction but, pressing #5 gave me direction to the intersection of 3rd street and 12th Ave. While I am familiar with that intersection I haven't been there since first downloading and installing Loadstone. I was able to use Find or to use Explore mode to move focus to Home but I could not figure out how to make this the target location. Any use of Loadstone and the target changed to 3rd street and 12th Ave. about a kilometer and a half from here albeit about insignificant from over 500 kilometers away but significant when approaching Home.

I haven't figured out how 3rd Street and 12th Avenue became the target or how to make Home the target and keep it there.

Can someone explain?

Thanks.

Dale leavens.
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From jacobk at mailzone.co.za  Thu Aug 19 10:00:58 2010
From: jacobk at mailzone.co.za (Jacob Kruger)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:00:58 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] How do I set an end point when traveling?
References: <99D843F97BE54ED29D5B443DD3566097@JanetPC>
Message-ID: <ECF1F4F8FB8A44F9A045B68C4A579958@rwilco>

If you check a point, or multiple points, then while in navigation mode, under functions, you can tell it to only make use of checkpoints, and I generally would press the select key to get it to prompt me relating to the next checked point it thinks you are heading towards in navigation mode then, but would also generally turn on auto announce, so it will start automatically instructing you at intervals.

Think you can still use the directional/cursor keys while in navigation mode to just get prompted about nearest point in relative direction, then, but not sure off hand if those will also be limited to checkpoints only - sorry...<smile>

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:28 AM
  Subject: [Loadstone] How do I set an end point when traveling?


  Good evening Loadstoners,

  Yesterday I was riding in a car from Lindsay Ontario up here to Cochrane. I decided to play with Loadstone. I have a fairly large database loaded with points from around here including one I created at the bottom of my driveway I call Home. I loaded the database and checkpoints and in Navigation mode began monitoring our progress north.

  Pressing the #1 key would give speed and direction but, pressing #5 gave me direction to the intersection of 3rd street and 12th Ave. While I am familiar with that intersection I haven't been there since first downloading and installing Loadstone. I was able to use Find or to use Explore mode to move focus to Home but I could not figure out how to make this the target location. Any use of Loadstone and the target changed to 3rd street and 12th Ave. about a kilometer and a half from here albeit about insignificant from over 500 kilometers away but significant when approaching Home.

  I haven't figured out how 3rd Street and 12th Avenue became the target or how to make Home the target and keep it there.

  Can someone explain?

  Thanks.

  Dale leavens.



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From vadhimoolam at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 21:15:32 2010
From: vadhimoolam at gmail.com (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:15:32 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] Values of approach distance and max approach
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=_e=ebMHRmZdZCJHM-p4ZFeZZi-R77eAAuZ6ch@mail.gmail.com>

In contrast to prior versions, I notice that these two values by
default have been changed in the current version. I am just wondering
whether they should be left as they are or can they be changed to
improve the point announcement. Would like to get feedback from the
developing teme.

Thanks.

Vetri.

From krecoun at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 22:08:07 2010
From: krecoun at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Vm9qdMSbY2ggUG9sw6HFoWVr?=)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:08:07 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>
	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC>
Message-ID: <4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>

well. I'll post it on my dropbox and share link here. Unfortunatelly, my 
phone is dead now so I can't test.
Tested on nokia E66. You don't need hacked phone.
Backup your cities folder before installation.
The interface is different from other versions. So after starting, there 
are some icons. The first icon on which you will stand is my location, 
so press center key. You can then press 0 key to catch your current 
location. When you 'll press left selection key then you will be at 
search box. here you can type any keyword.
Pres down and enter to search though categories.
oh, before you press enter on my location, press left selection and 
select settings. download proper navigation voice files.
ask sighted people for help, it's not very accessible, but it's usable.
well, here is the link. Ask, me, maybe I can provide some help.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1738189/nokia_maps_3.03_10wk11_b04_s60_3.1_rom.Nocs.sis
Vojta
On 14.8.2010 21:01, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
> Is there a certain brand of phone?  I'd be interested in trying it 
> some time.  If you want to either post it here or Email me off line 
> that would be great.  Do you know if it announces businesses you have 
> around you or what you pass?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Glowacki" 
> <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>
>
> As I understand it, this information is just as welcome as it is 
> related to
> GPS solutions for the visually impaired.  Thank you for sharing.  It is
> probably something I will be looking in to in the future.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:03 AM
> Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>
>
>> Hello loadstoners,
>> I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched
>> voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several other
>> languages including finish and chinese.
>> It even announces to you names of streets.
>> You must have the latest version of  official nokia ovi maps - I can 
>> host
>> it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility is
>> somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of 
>> list if
>> you don't want it posted here.
>> The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is
>> very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the
>> road, but it's worth trying.
>> Vojta
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
>
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>
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From pranav.lal at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 01:06:20 2010
From: pranav.lal at gmail.com (Pranav Lal)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 05:36:20 +0530
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>
	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>
	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC>
	<4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimGjCGm_LMLSkDqcswbaDJUuE_j84aGruYwGhdB@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Vojta,

Many thanks and I hope it installs on my phone.

Pranav

On 8/20/10, Vojt?ch Pol??ek <krecoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> well. I'll post it on my dropbox and share link here. Unfortunatelly, my
> phone is dead now so I can't test.
> Tested on nokia E66. You don't need hacked phone.
> Backup your cities folder before installation.
> The interface is different from other versions. So after starting, there
> are some icons. The first icon on which you will stand is my location,
> so press center key. You can then press 0 key to catch your current
> location. When you 'll press left selection key then you will be at
> search box. here you can type any keyword.
> Pres down and enter to search though categories.
> oh, before you press enter on my location, press left selection and
> select settings. download proper navigation voice files.
> ask sighted people for help, it's not very accessible, but it's usable.
> well, here is the link. Ask, me, maybe I can provide some help.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1738189/nokia_maps_3.03_10wk11_b04_s60_3.1_rom.Nocs.sis
> Vojta
> On 14.8.2010 21:01, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>> Is there a certain brand of phone?  I'd be interested in trying it
>> some time.  If you want to either post it here or Email me off line
>> that would be great.  Do you know if it announces businesses you have
>> around you or what you pass?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Glowacki"
>> <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>
>>
>> As I understand it, this information is just as welcome as it is
>> related to
>> GPS solutions for the visually impaired.  Thank you for sharing.  It is
>> probably something I will be looking in to in the future.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:03 AM
>> Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>
>>
>>> Hello loadstoners,
>>> I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched
>>> voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several other
>>> languages including finish and chinese.
>>> It even announces to you names of streets.
>>> You must have the latest version of  official nokia ovi maps - I can
>>> host
>>> it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility is
>>> somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of
>>> list if
>>> you don't want it posted here.
>>> The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is
>>> very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the
>>> road, but it's worth trying.
>>> Vojta
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3069 - Release Date:
>> 08/13/10 18:34:00
>>
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3069 - Release Date: 08/13/10
>> 18:34:00
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>

From elliottabarnes at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 20 08:32:57 2010
From: elliottabarnes at googlemail.com (Elliott Barnes)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:32:57 +0100
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
Message-ID: <20100820.073257.812.4@ELLIOTT>

Is this the same as OVI Maps?
Cheers.

----- Original Message -----
From: Vojtech Pol??ek <krecoun at gmail.com>
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:08:07 +0200
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia

> well. I'll post it on my dropbox and share link here. Unfortunatelly, my 
> phone is dead now so I can't test.
> Tested on nokia E66. You don't need hacked phone.
> Backup your cities folder before installation.
> The interface is different from other versions. So after starting, there 
> are some icons. The first icon on which you will stand is my location, 
> so press center key. You can then press 0 key to catch your current 
> location. When you 'll press left selection key then you will be at 
> search box. here you can type any keyword.
> Pres down and enter to search though categories.
> oh, before you press enter on my location, press left selection and 
> select settings. download proper navigation voice files.
> ask sighted people for help, it's not very accessible, but it's usable.
> well, here is the link. Ask, me, maybe I can provide some help.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1738189/nokia_maps_3.03_10wk11_b04_s60_3.1_rom.Nocs.sis
> Vojta
> On 14.8.2010 21:01, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
> > Is there a certain brand of phone?  I'd be interested in trying it 
> > some time.  If you want to either post it here or Email me off line 
> > that would be great.  Do you know if it announces businesses you have 
> > around you or what you pass?
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Glowacki" 
> > <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
> > To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
> >
> >
> > As I understand it, this information is just as welcome as it is 
> > related to
> > GPS solutions for the visually impaired.  Thank you for sharing.  It is
> > probably something I will be looking in to in the future.
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vojtech Pol??sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
> > To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:03 AM
> > Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
> >
> >
> >> Hello loadstoners,
> >> I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched
> >> voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several other
> >> languages including finish and chinese.
> >> It even announces to you names of streets.
> >> You must have the latest version of  official nokia ovi maps - I can 
> >> host
> >> it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility is
> >> somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of 
> >> list if
> >> you don't want it posted here.
> >> The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is
> >> very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the
> >> road, but it's worth trying.
> >> Vojta
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Loadstone mailing list
> >> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> >> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Loadstone mailing list
> > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3069 - Release Date: 
> > 08/13/10 18:34:00
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3069 - Release Date: 08/13/10 18:34:00
> >
> >    
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Loadstone mailing list
> > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> >    
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> 
> 

From elliottabarnes at googlemail.com  Fri Aug 20 08:42:40 2010
From: elliottabarnes at googlemail.com (Elliott Barnes)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:42:40 +0100
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
Message-ID: <20100820.074240.562.7@ELLIOTT>

Just out of interest, where did you get the setup file from?
Cheers.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 05:36:20 +0530
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia

> Hi Vojta,

Many thanks and I hope it installs on my phone.

Pranav

On 8/20/10, Vojtech Pol??ek <krecoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> well. I'll post it on my dropbox and share link here. Unfortunatelly, my
> phone is dead now so I can't test.
> Tested on nokia E66. You don't need hacked phone.
> Backup your cities folder before installation.
> The interface is different from other versions. So after starting, there
> are some icons. The first icon on which you will stand is my location,
> so press center key. You can then press 0 key to catch your current
> location. When you 'll press left selection key then you will be at
> search box. here you can type any keyword.
> Pres down and enter to search though categories.
> oh, before you press enter on my location, press left selection and
> select settings. download proper navigation voice files.
> ask sighted people for help, it's not very accessible, but it's usable.
> well, here is the link. Ask, me, maybe I can provide some help.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1738189/nokia_maps_3.03_10wk11_b04_s60_3.1_rom.Nocs.sis
> Vojta
> On 14.8.2010 21:01, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>> Is there a certain brand of phone?  I'd be interested in trying it
>> some time.  If you want to either post it here or Email me off line
>> that would be great.  Do you know if it announces businesses you have
>> around you or what you pass?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Glowacki"
>> <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>
>>
>> As I understand it, this information is just as welcome as it is
>> related to
>> GPS solutions for the visually impaired.  Thank you for sharing.  It is
>> probably something I will be looking in to in the future.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:03 AM
>> Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>
>>
>>> Hello loadstoners,
>>> I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched
>>> voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several other
>>> languages including finish and chinese.
>>> It even announces to you names of streets.
>>> You must have the latest version of  official nokia ovi maps - I can
>>> host
>>> it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility is
>>> somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of
>>> list if
>>> you don't want it posted here.
>>> The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is
>>> very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the
>>> road, but it's worth trying.
>>> Vojta
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3069 - Release Date:
>> 08/13/10 18:34:00
>>
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3069 - Release Date: 08/13/10
>> 18:34:00
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>
_______________________________________________
Loadstone mailing list
Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone


From rjmathews at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 20 14:09:11 2010
From: rjmathews at shaw.ca (ralph mathews)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:09:11 -0500
Subject: [Loadstone] How do I set an end point when traveling?
Message-ID: <000001cb4068$e1779c80$a466d580$@ca>

Hi Dale,

 

Sounds like the intersection of 3rd and 12th got checked somehow.  Use the
function key and "find" command to display this point on our screen.  Go
into "options" again and under "last point", you will find  a toggle called
"check" or "uncheck".  Use this to take focus off this intersection.  When
you exit Loadstone, it will most likely tell you that  checkpoints have been
modified and will ask you if you want to save changes.  Save the changes,
otherwise this point wil likely reappear again as the focus the next time
you turn Loadstone on.

 

I did the same thing coming home fro Winnipeg last night.  In Navigation
mode (I think), I was able to monitor each crossroad as I passed it by
pressing the scroll up key.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Ralph in Kenorq

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From krecoun at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 21:54:54 2010
From: krecoun at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Vm9qdMSbY2ggUG9sw6HFoWVr?=)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:54:54 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <20100820.073257.812.4@ELLIOTT>
References: <20100820.073257.812.4@ELLIOTT>
Message-ID: <4C6EEB9E.8040309@gmail.com>

Well, I don't know, but it's working for me, and that's important.
I got it from symbiantalk.net
Vojta

On 20.8.2010 09:32, Elliott Barnes wrote:
> Is this the same as OVI Maps?
> Cheers.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Vojtech Pol??ek<krecoun at gmail.com>
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:08:07 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>
>    
>> well. I'll post it on my dropbox and share link here. Unfortunatelly, my
>> phone is dead now so I can't test.
>> Tested on nokia E66. You don't need hacked phone.
>> Backup your cities folder before installation.
>> The interface is different from other versions. So after starting, there
>> are some icons. The first icon on which you will stand is my location,
>> so press center key. You can then press 0 key to catch your current
>> location. When you 'll press left selection key then you will be at
>> search box. here you can type any keyword.
>> Pres down and enter to search though categories.
>> oh, before you press enter on my location, press left selection and
>> select settings. download proper navigation voice files.
>> ask sighted people for help, it's not very accessible, but it's usable.
>> well, here is the link. Ask, me, maybe I can provide some help.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1738189/nokia_maps_3.03_10wk11_b04_s60_3.1_rom.Nocs.sis
>> Vojta
>> On 14.8.2010 21:01, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>>      
>>> Is there a certain brand of phone?  I'd be interested in trying it
>>> some time.  If you want to either post it here or Email me off line
>>> that would be great.  Do you know if it announces businesses you have
>>> around you or what you pass?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Glowacki"
>>> <orangebutterfly87 at gmail.com>
>>> To:<loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>>
>>>
>>> As I understand it, this information is just as welcome as it is
>>> related to
>>> GPS solutions for the visually impaired.  Thank you for sharing.  It is
>>> probably something I will be looking in to in the future.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vojtech Pol??sek"<krecoun at gmail.com>
>>> To:<loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:03 AM
>>> Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Hello loadstoners,
>>>> I apologize if this is a little of topic, but nokia recently launched
>>>> voice navigation for pedestrians and it is in english and several other
>>>> languages including finish and chinese.
>>>> It even announces to you names of streets.
>>>> You must have the latest version of  official nokia ovi maps - I can
>>>> host
>>>> it somewhere if you would like to try this out. The accessibility is
>>>> somehow different from previous versions, so you can contact me of
>>>> list if
>>>> you don't want it posted here.
>>>> The voice navigation for drivers was working long time ago but this is
>>>> very, very interesting. It doesn't announce when you have to cross the
>>>> road, but it's worth trying.
>>>> Vojta
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3069 - Release Date:
>>> 08/13/10 18:34:00
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3069 - Release Date: 08/13/10 18:34:00
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>
>>>        
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>>
>>      
>>
>>
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>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>      
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From pranav.lal at gmail.com  Sat Aug 21 04:14:39 2010
From: pranav.lal at gmail.com (Pranav Lal)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 08:44:39 +0530
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC>
	<4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c6f44b3.26f88e0a.3a82.ffffe1bd@mx.google.com>

Hi,

Thanks. It does not work on a Nokia E51.

Pranav 



From yesiltas1981 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 21 04:34:20 2010
From: yesiltas1981 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?w7ZtZXIgeWXFn2lsdGHFnw==?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:34:20 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] YNT: Re:  interesting news from nokia
Message-ID: <X7bcrJrwbptk.4gVFtwmh@smtp.gmail.com>

Does not either on e63.

-- orijinal mesaj --
Konu: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
Kimden: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
Tarih: 21.08.2010 06.16

Hi,

Thanks. It does not work on a Nokia E51.

Pranav 


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From muktaketan at gmail.com  Sat Aug 21 05:17:04 2010
From: muktaketan at gmail.com (Ketan Kothari)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 09:47:04 +0530
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC><4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>
	<4c6f44b3.26f88e0a.3a82.ffffe1bd@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <51542253985B4C998B5B40F8D8F8B103@gateway669543a>

would it on N 82?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia


> Hi,
> 
> Thanks. It does not work on a Nokia E51.
> 
> Pranav 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone

From krecoun at gmail.com  Sat Aug 21 09:02:18 2010
From: krecoun at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Vm9qdMSbY2ggUG9sw6HFoWVr?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:02:18 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <51542253985B4C998B5B40F8D8F8B103@gateway669543a>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC><4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>	<4c6f44b3.26f88e0a.3a82.ffffe1bd@mx.google.com>
	<51542253985B4C998B5B40F8D8F8B103@gateway669543a>
Message-ID: <4C6F880A.6030907@gmail.com>

Well, that's strange. Then it is possible, that it is version shipped 
with phones, that get this navigation for free. I know that E66, N95 is 
among them, and I believe N82 too.
Try and report please,
Vojta

On 21.8.2010 06:17, Ketan Kothari wrote:
> would it on N 82?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks. It does not work on a Nokia E51.
>>
>> Pranav
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>

From sgiggar at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 21 10:32:16 2010
From: sgiggar at sbcglobal.net (Stephen Giggar)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:32:16 -0500
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC><4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>	<4c6f44b3.26f88e0a.3a82.ffffe1bd@mx.google.com><51542253985B4C998B5B40F8D8F8B103@gateway669543a>
	<4C6F880A.6030907@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7446A5B657944CDCB4EF9FC1D5BC4CE3@steves74v2hjfv>

No the N95 you have to buy it! It is not free. OVI Maps can not be installed 
on it.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia


> Well, that's strange. Then it is possible, that it is version shipped with 
> phones, that get this navigation for free. I know that E66, N95 is among 
> them, and I believe N82 too.
> Try and report please,
> Vojta
>
> On 21.8.2010 06:17, Ketan Kothari wrote:
>> would it on N 82?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks. It does not work on a Nokia E51.
>>>
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone 


From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com  Sat Aug 21 14:20:44 2010
From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:20:44 -0300
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <7446A5B657944CDCB4EF9FC1D5BC4CE3@steves74v2hjfv>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>
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Hi:

What Stephen says is quite right; however, Nokia maps is only about $16 US.

Cheers.


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From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgiggar at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 6:32 AM
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia

> No the N95 you have to buy it! It is not free. OVI Maps can not be 
> installed on it.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 3:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>
>
>> Well, that's strange. Then it is possible, that it is version shipped 
>> with phones, that get this navigation for free. I know that E66, N95 is 
>> among them, and I believe N82 too.
>> Try and report please,
>> Vojta
>>
>> On 21.8.2010 06:17, Ketan Kothari wrote:
>>> would it on N 82?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. It does not work on a Nokia E51.
>>>>
>>>> Pranav
>>>>
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From dleavens at puc.net  Sat Aug 21 14:32:20 2010
From: dleavens at puc.net (Dale Leavens)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 09:32:20 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] How do I set an end point when traveling?
In-Reply-To: <000001cb4068$e1779c80$a466d580$@ca>
References: <000001cb4068$e1779c80$a466d580$@ca>
Message-ID: <D816FF4F5E404013B25CEFBB227013DC@JanetPC>

Thanks Ralph,

I did try unchecking the point and then navigating to my home point in exploration mode which is one of my check points but it wouldn't stick. There was no warning when I exited Loadstone.

Of course I didn't get any information about my surroundings while moving along, didn't have maps to cover such a large area but it was interesting to monitor direction and speed and distance and altitude. We pass near the highest point in Ontario on the drive.

Thanks, I don't know when I'll get the next chance to try this again.

Dale Leavens.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ralph Mathews 
  To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:09 AM
  Subject: [Loadstone] How do I set an end point when traveling?


  Hi Dale,

   

  Sounds like the intersection of 3rd and 12th got checked somehow.  Use the function key and "find" command to display this point on our screen.  Go into "options" again and under "last point", you will find  a toggle called "check" or "uncheck".  Use this to take focus off this intersection.  When you exit Loadstone, it will most likely tell you that  checkpoints have been modified and will ask you if you want to save changes.  Save the changes, otherwise this point wil likely reappear again as the focus the next time you turn Loadstone on.

   

  I did the same thing coming home fro Winnipeg last night.  In Navigation mode (I think), I was able to monitor each crossroad as I passed it by pressing the scroll up key.

   

  Hope this helps,

   

  Ralph in Kenorq



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From dleavens at puc.net  Sat Aug 21 14:37:40 2010
From: dleavens at puc.net (Dale Leavens)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 09:37:40 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] Interesting observation on altitude.
Message-ID: <8CCAFA03140D408AA114EA0111C65EB6@JanetPC>

Yesterday I was sitting here at my dining room table charging my M1000. I brought up Loadstone on the phone. Although standing still it was interesting to notice that altitude started at a little better than 97 meters and over the course of half an hour descended to about 76 meters. Accuracy was reported at between 7 and 9 meters depending when I looked.

Pressing #3 announced 3 dimensional fix. I don't know what that actually means but I assume the third dimension to be vertical.

Is this much drift usual?

Thanks.

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From dgcarlson at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 21 17:13:23 2010
From: dgcarlson at sbcglobal.net (Farfar Carlson)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 09:13:23 -0700
Subject: [Loadstone] Interesting observation on altitude.
References: <8CCAFA03140D408AA114EA0111C65EB6@JanetPC>
Message-ID: <55EDD0D05DD346F7B4362C0D7EE0AA6E@symmetricom.com>

Can be. Depends on your receiver. Also note that in the triangulation method used by satellites to find position, the most accurate, due to the angle of elevation, is the ex-y coordinates on the surface (lon and lat). 

The least accurate, again due to the elevation angle of the satellite constellation will be altitude (the z-axis). It's very hard to get a good altitude measurement  when you're looking down at a point on the ground. All the factors of delay in signal propagation will stack up to reduce precision.

Based on trigonometry the most accurate measurement of altitude would be a constellation of satellites sitting on the earth's surface, and looking "up" at the GPS receiver. That's not the way orbiting satellites work, I'm afraid.

Dave
Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 06:37
  Subject: [Loadstone] Interesting observation on altitude.


  Yesterday I was sitting here at my dining room table charging my M1000. I brought up Loadstone on the phone. Although standing still it was interesting to notice that altitude started at a little better than 97 meters and over the course of half an hour descended to about 76 meters. Accuracy was reported at between 7 and 9 meters depending when I looked.

  Pressing #3 announced 3 dimensional fix. I don't know what that actually means but I assume the third dimension to be vertical.

  Is this much drift usual?

  Thanks.

  Dale Leavens.


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From d.griffith at btinternet.com  Sat Aug 21 23:57:12 2010
From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:57:12 +0100
Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
Message-ID: <E4BB3F6BB2C54554A74A6B4287FBB535@6ffd52c138504d6>

Dear List 

I am a new list member and apologise if this is a basic question.  I went
through all the FAQs on the Lodestone web site but I could not see an answer
to this question. 
I am probably about to upgrade to a Nokia N86  phone.
This is described as having an internal GPS positioning system. It has an
application called Nokia Maps on it.

Would the Lodestone software therefore work on the Nokia N86 without any
other pieces of kit?
The web site seems to suggest that you must buy an external GPS receiver.




Regards
David Griffith
 

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From vadhimoolam at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 01:27:44 2010
From: vadhimoolam at gmail.com (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:27:44 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
In-Reply-To: <E4BB3F6BB2C54554A74A6B4287FBB535@6ffd52c138504d6>
References: <E4BB3F6BB2C54554A74A6B4287FBB535@6ffd52c138504d6>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimsmD-FXzeigStQjQf75LwOu2m-bd2gVJOQkQ64@mail.gmail.com>

Loadstone is a stand alone program and it has nothing to do with Nokia
maps. Ls does work with internal gps receivers, but external ones work
better with the program. Not only with ls, but with any gps program on
the S60 platform. Vetri.

On 21/08/2010, David Griffith <d.griffith at btinternet.com> wrote:
> Dear List
>
> I am a new list member and apologise if this is a basic question.  I went
> through all the FAQs on the Lodestone web site but I could not see an answer
> to this question.
> I am probably about to upgrade to a Nokia N86  phone.
> This is described as having an internal GPS positioning system. It has an
> application called Nokia Maps on it.
>
> Would the Lodestone software therefore work on the Nokia N86 without any
> other pieces of kit?
> The web site seems to suggest that you must buy an external GPS receiver.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> David Griffith
>
>
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From jbrew48 at verizon.net  Sun Aug 22 04:21:49 2010
From: jbrew48 at verizon.net (Julie)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:21:49 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
References: <E4BB3F6BB2C54554A74A6B4287FBB535@6ffd52c138504d6>
Message-ID: <EB6EB4357E7B4EE88090EADEA813DD57@acer4d025c48b8>

it will still work with just the internal gps recever.  I have an n82 and it 
works with it I don't use o v maps though.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 6:57 PM
Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86


> Dear List
>
> I am a new list member and apologise if this is a basic question.  I went
> through all the FAQs on the Lodestone web site but I could not see an 
> answer
> to this question.
> I am probably about to upgrade to a Nokia N86  phone.
> This is described as having an internal GPS positioning system. It has an
> application called Nokia Maps on it.
>
> Would the Lodestone software therefore work on the Nokia N86 without any
> other pieces of kit?
> The web site seems to suggest that you must buy an external GPS receiver.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> David Griffith
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus 
> signature
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>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
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From vadhimoolam at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 05:41:24 2010
From: vadhimoolam at gmail.com (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:41:24 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
In-Reply-To: <EB6EB4357E7B4EE88090EADEA813DD57@acer4d025c48b8>
References: <E4BB3F6BB2C54554A74A6B4287FBB535@6ffd52c138504d6>
	<EB6EB4357E7B4EE88090EADEA813DD57@acer4d025c48b8>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=2BzPSW-A4KAtSxz9h_QAMaCJ7Zyx5yzw9ipJH@mail.gmail.com>

N82 is one of those few models in which the internal receiver works
fine. The external receiver still gets more satelites and it is
actually important in determining the acuracy.

On 21/08/2010, Julie <jbrew48 at verizon.net> wrote:
> it will still work with just the internal gps recever.  I have an n82 and it
> works with it I don't use o v maps though.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 6:57 PM
> Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
>
>
>> Dear List
>>
>> I am a new list member and apologise if this is a basic question.  I went
>> through all the FAQs on the Lodestone web site but I could not see an
>> answer
>> to this question.
>> I am probably about to upgrade to a Nokia N86  phone.
>> This is described as having an internal GPS positioning system. It has an
>> application called Nokia Maps on it.
>>
>> Would the Lodestone software therefore work on the Nokia N86 without any
>> other pieces of kit?
>> The web site seems to suggest that you must buy an external GPS receiver.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> David Griffith
>>
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>> signature
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>>
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From bardiazakeri at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 11:26:36 2010
From: bardiazakeri at gmail.com (Bardia Zakeri)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:26:36 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
References: <E4BB3F6BB2C54554A74A6B4287FBB535@6ffd52c138504d6>
Message-ID: <6429D090EA7E4AA4AD20D2B34A77B78F@BARDIASHP>

david!! witch phone do you have now ?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:57 AM
Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86


> Dear List
>
> I am a new list member and apologise if this is a basic question.  I went
> through all the FAQs on the Lodestone web site but I could not see an 
> answer
> to this question.
> I am probably about to upgrade to a Nokia N86  phone.
> This is described as having an internal GPS positioning system. It has an
> application called Nokia Maps on it.
>
> Would the Lodestone software therefore work on the Nokia N86 without any
> other pieces of kit?
> The web site seems to suggest that you must buy an external GPS receiver.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> David Griffith
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus 
> signature
> database 5385 (20100821) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> http://www.eset.com
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From d.griffith at btinternet.com  Sun Aug 22 12:11:15 2010
From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:11:15 +0100
Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
In-Reply-To: <6429D090EA7E4AA4AD20D2B34A77B78F@BARDIASHP>
References: <E4BB3F6BB2C54554A74A6B4287FBB535@6ffd52c138504d6>
	<6429D090EA7E4AA4AD20D2B34A77B78F@BARDIASHP>
Message-ID: <7944707E7E524B72B44C1BCB8B634904@6ffd52c138504d6>

Dear Bardia  and others who have responded 

I have a Nokia 6600 with Talks but have had terrible problems getting
connectivity with the PC.
Basic file transfer with Bluetooth is possible but PC suite completely
refuses to recognise the phone.
A computer engineer came around and tried for 2  hours to get PC suite
working with this phone without success.  It was also impossible to
synchronise Looking at Google it appears that there are problems with any
versions of XP above service pack 1 for this phone.

This is one of the reasons I am looking for an upgrade.
I am attracted by the principles of the Lodestone project and would like to
join in if I can.
The reason I mentioned Nokia Maps was because I thought I saw a tool
described on  the Lodestone web site  which could convert the information
there into a format useful for Lodestone.

Thanks to all who have given advice.
Based on the feedback I guess I will try the internal GPS first to see how I
go.

Regards

David Griffith



-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Bardia Zakeri
Sent: Sunday, 22 August 2010 11:27
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86

david!! witch phone do you have now ?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:57 AM
Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86


> Dear List
>
> I am a new list member and apologise if this is a basic question.  I went
> through all the FAQs on the Lodestone web site but I could not see an 
> answer
> to this question.
> I am probably about to upgrade to a Nokia N86  phone.
> This is described as having an internal GPS positioning system. It has an
> application called Nokia Maps on it.
>
> Would the Lodestone software therefore work on the Nokia N86 without any
> other pieces of kit?
> The web site seems to suggest that you must buy an external GPS receiver.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> David Griffith
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus 
> signature
> database 5385 (20100821) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
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> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone 

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From bardiazakeri at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 16:48:05 2010
From: bardiazakeri at gmail.com (Bardia Zakeri)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:48:05 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
References: <E4BB3F6BB2C54554A74A6B4287FBB535@6ffd52c138504d6><6429D090EA7E4AA4AD20D2B34A77B78F@BARDIASHP>
	<7944707E7E524B72B44C1BCB8B634904@6ffd52c138504d6>
Message-ID: <B253CEEA0A734B2E80B5999A609479AF@BARDIASHP>

hi.
6600 is a wery old phone so.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86


> Dear Bardia  and others who have responded
>
> I have a Nokia 6600 with Talks but have had terrible problems getting
> connectivity with the PC.
> Basic file transfer with Bluetooth is possible but PC suite completely
> refuses to recognise the phone.
> A computer engineer came around and tried for 2  hours to get PC suite
> working with this phone without success.  It was also impossible to
> synchronise Looking at Google it appears that there are problems with any
> versions of XP above service pack 1 for this phone.
>
> This is one of the reasons I am looking for an upgrade.
> I am attracted by the principles of the Lodestone project and would like 
> to
> join in if I can.
> The reason I mentioned Nokia Maps was because I thought I saw a tool
> described on  the Lodestone web site  which could convert the information
> there into a format useful for Lodestone.
>
> Thanks to all who have given advice.
> Based on the feedback I guess I will try the internal GPS first to see how 
> I
> go.
>
> Regards
>
> David Griffith
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Bardia Zakeri
> Sent: Sunday, 22 August 2010 11:27
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
>
> david!! witch phone do you have now ?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:57 AM
> Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
>
>
>> Dear List
>>
>> I am a new list member and apologise if this is a basic question.  I went
>> through all the FAQs on the Lodestone web site but I could not see an
>> answer
>> to this question.
>> I am probably about to upgrade to a Nokia N86  phone.
>> This is described as having an internal GPS positioning system. It has an
>> application called Nokia Maps on it.
>>
>> Would the Lodestone software therefore work on the Nokia N86 without any
>> other pieces of kit?
>> The web site seems to suggest that you must buy an external GPS receiver.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> David Griffith
>>
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>> signature
>> database 5385 (20100821) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
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>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
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>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus 
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> database 5385 (20100821) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus 
> signature
> database 5385 (20100821) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
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From vadhimoolam at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 17:05:33 2010
From: vadhimoolam at gmail.com (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:05:33 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
In-Reply-To: <B253CEEA0A734B2E80B5999A609479AF@BARDIASHP>
References: <E4BB3F6BB2C54554A74A6B4287FBB535@6ffd52c138504d6>
	<6429D090EA7E4AA4AD20D2B34A77B78F@BARDIASHP>
	<7944707E7E524B72B44C1BCB8B634904@6ffd52c138504d6>
	<B253CEEA0A734B2E80B5999A609479AF@BARDIASHP>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=PJcKXn57=YOvJf4DFyVPqsgfCi2JEQeJ94Jpb@mail.gmail.com>

In that case, you have lots of choices besides N86. E71, E72, N97 etc.
N82 is no longer available in the market. Perhaps N86 is also already
being faced out. Vetri.

On 22/08/2010, Bardia Zakeri <bardiazakeri at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi.
> 6600 is a wery old phone so.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 1:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
>
>
>> Dear Bardia  and others who have responded
>>
>> I have a Nokia 6600 with Talks but have had terrible problems getting
>> connectivity with the PC.
>> Basic file transfer with Bluetooth is possible but PC suite completely
>> refuses to recognise the phone.
>> A computer engineer came around and tried for 2  hours to get PC suite
>> working with this phone without success.  It was also impossible to
>> synchronise Looking at Google it appears that there are problems with any
>> versions of XP above service pack 1 for this phone.
>>
>> This is one of the reasons I am looking for an upgrade.
>> I am attracted by the principles of the Lodestone project and would like
>> to
>> join in if I can.
>> The reason I mentioned Nokia Maps was because I thought I saw a tool
>> described on  the Lodestone web site  which could convert the information
>> there into a format useful for Lodestone.
>>
>> Thanks to all who have given advice.
>> Based on the feedback I guess I will try the internal GPS first to see how
>>
>> I
>> go.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Bardia Zakeri
>> Sent: Sunday, 22 August 2010 11:27
>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
>>
>> david!! witch phone do you have now ?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:57 AM
>> Subject: [Loadstone] New Member - Question about Nokia N86
>>
>>
>>> Dear List
>>>
>>> I am a new list member and apologise if this is a basic question.  I went
>>> through all the FAQs on the Lodestone web site but I could not see an
>>> answer
>>> to this question.
>>> I am probably about to upgrade to a Nokia N86  phone.
>>> This is described as having an internal GPS positioning system. It has an
>>> application called Nokia Maps on it.
>>>
>>> Would the Lodestone software therefore work on the Nokia N86 without any
>>> other pieces of kit?
>>> The web site seems to suggest that you must buy an external GPS receiver.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> David Griffith
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>
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>>
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From saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in  Sun Aug 22 17:57:37 2010
From: saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in (saidarshan bhagat)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:27:37 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS  receiver with n79
Message-ID: <625643.95917.qm@web95615.mail.in.yahoo.com>

Dear Friends,
?
Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia n79.
Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
?I couldn?t connect my phone with this device, I was getting connection error.
As per the documentation I have also removed the ?paring of this device but it didn?t work.
In this test I observed one strange thing ?regarding loadstone,internal GPS receiver is also goes fail ?if ?the Bluetooth connectivity is on. I was getting ?Connection error? while using ?internal receiver too.
???
I had to reboote my device after this error ?to work with internal receiver.
We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with internal receiver?.
?anybody has ?encountered same issue in N79?
?
Requesting all my expert ?friends to throw some light on above mentioned issues.
Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
?
?
With best regards.
Sai.
Mumbai, India. 
+91 9820 223489.
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From vadhimoolam at gmail.com  Sun Aug 22 19:10:01 2010
From: vadhimoolam at gmail.com (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:10:01 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
In-Reply-To: <625643.95917.qm@web95615.mail.in.yahoo.com>
References: <625643.95917.qm@web95615.mail.in.yahoo.com>
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It looks like you have not enabled any of those under positioning
which can be found in settings on that model. When you are there,
enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the ls after
this. Vetri.

On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
> I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia n79.
> Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
> ?I couldn?t connect my phone with this device, I was getting connection
> error.
> As per the documentation I have also removed the ?paring of this device but
> it didn?t work.
> In this test I observed one strange thing ?regarding loadstone,internal GPS
> receiver is also goes fail ?if ?the Bluetooth connectivity is on. I was
> getting ?Connection error? while using ?internal receiver too.
>
> I had to reboote my device after this error ?to work with internal receiver.
> We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with internal receiver?.
> ?anybody has ?encountered same issue in N79?
>
> Requesting all my expert ?friends to throw some light on above mentioned
> issues.
> Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>
>
> With best regards.
> Sai.
> Mumbai, India.
> +91 9820 223489.
>
>
>

From jacobk at mailzone.co.za  Mon Aug 23 06:57:10 2010
From: jacobk at mailzone.co.za (Jacob Kruger)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:57:10 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC><4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>	<4c6f44b3.26f88e0a.3a82.ffffe1bd@mx.google.com><51542253985B4C998B5B40F8D8F8B103@gateway669543a>
	<4C6F880A.6030907@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B08A766205E448F390C4473D6990BACD@rwilco>

FWIW, finally got around to trying to install this version on my N82, 
although am generally happy enough with the version had, along with 
loadstone, but it says it's not compatible with my N82, whose copyright 
notice states 2007 - although got phone in January 2009.

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia


> Well, that's strange. Then it is possible, that it is version shipped with 
> phones, that get this navigation for free. I know that E66, N95 is among 
> them, and I believe N82 too.
> Try and report please,
> Vojta
>
> On 21.8.2010 06:17, Ketan Kothari wrote:
>> would it on N 82?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks. It does not work on a Nokia E51.
>>>
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
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>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
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> 


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From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 08:00:49 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:00:49 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC><4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>	<4c6f44b3.26f88e0a.3a82.ffffe1bd@mx.google.com><51542253985B4C998B5B40F8D8F8B103@gateway669543a><4C6F880A.6030907@gmail.com>
	<B08A766205E448F390C4473D6990BACD@rwilco>
Message-ID: <3ADB7B6BF28B46819CCF1B868CD3FABB@ambankgroup.ahb.com>

Hi Jacob,

After installing into N82, does it have the tts for street names or just 
voices only with no street name?

Thanks,
KITT.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk at mailzone.co.za>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia


FWIW, finally got around to trying to install this version on my N82,
although am generally happy enough with the version had, along with
loadstone, but it says it's not compatible with my N82, whose copyright
notice states 2007 - although got phone in January 2009.

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia


> Well, that's strange. Then it is possible, that it is version shipped with
> phones, that get this navigation for free. I know that E66, N95 is among
> them, and I believe N82 too.
> Try and report please,
> Vojta
>
> On 21.8.2010 06:17, Ketan Kothari wrote:
>> would it on N 82?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks. It does not work on a Nokia E51.
>>>
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
> signature database 5383 (20100820) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
>


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From jacobk at mailzone.co.za  Mon Aug 23 09:36:45 2010
From: jacobk at mailzone.co.za (jacobk at mailzone.co.za)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:36:45 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <3ADB7B6BF28B46819CCF1B868CD3FABB@ambankgroup.ahb.com>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC><4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>	<4c6f44b3.26f88e0a.3a82.ffffe1bd@mx.google.com><51542253985B4C998B5B40F8D8F8B103@gateway669543a><4C6F880A.6030907@gmail.com>
	<B08A766205E448F390C4473D6990BACD@rwilco>
	<3ADB7B6BF28B46819CCF1B868CD3FABB@ambankgroup.ahb.com>
Message-ID: <090e27e07863ff191c4245b9d631a7c5@192.168.1.36>

Well, like said, it states that not compatible with phone, so not installed
this newer version, so, no, I don't know what it would want to do with
street names, since I'm still using the prior version have on there
already, and that one doesn't say anything related to street names - just
tells you to turn left/right, etc. and only tells you you've arrived, but
doesn't tell you on which side, etc., which is also still will generally
stick to loadstone for that type of entry point navigation.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'


On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:00:49 +0800, "Kit" <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jacob,
> 
> After installing into N82, does it have the tts for street names or just 
> voices only with no street name?
> 
> Thanks,
> KITT.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk at mailzone.co.za>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
> 
> 
> FWIW, finally got around to trying to install this version on my N82,
> although am generally happy enough with the version had, along with
> loadstone, but it says it's not compatible with my N82, whose copyright
> notice states 2007 - although got phone in January 2009.
> 
> Stay well
> 
> 
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
> 
> 
>> Well, that's strange. Then it is possible, that it is version shipped
>> with
>> phones, that get this navigation for free. I know that E66, N95 is among
>> them, and I believe N82 too.
>> Try and report please,
>> Vojta
>>
>> On 21.8.2010 06:17, Ketan Kothari wrote:
>>> would it on N 82?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. It does not work on a Nokia E51.
>>>>
>>>> Pranav
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
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>> signature database 5383 (20100820) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
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> signature 
> database 5386 (20100822) __________
> 
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
> 
> http://www.eset.com
> 
> 
> 
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From prasad.modu at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 12:24:36 2010
From: prasad.modu at gmail.com (siva prasad)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:54:36 +0530
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <090e27e07863ff191c4245b9d631a7c5@192.168.1.36>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>
	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>
	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC>
	<4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>
	<4c6f44b3.26f88e0a.3a82.ffffe1bd@mx.google.com>
	<51542253985B4C998B5B40F8D8F8B103@gateway669543a>
	<4C6F880A.6030907@gmail.com>
	<B08A766205E448F390C4473D6990BACD@rwilco>
	<3ADB7B6BF28B46819CCF1B868CD3FABB@ambankgroup.ahb.com>
	<090e27e07863ff191c4245b9d631a7c5@192.168.1.36>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik5fSqt12xF=P+dx=Z49tUNSMVmahrcevsPDR7L@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/23/10, jacobk at mailzone.co.za <jacobk at mailzone.co.za> wrote:
> Well, like said, it states that not compatible with phone, so not installed
> this newer version, so, no, I don't know what it would want to do with
> street names, since I'm still using the prior version have on there
> already, and that one doesn't say anything related to street names - just
> tells you to turn left/right, etc. and only tells you you've arrived, but
> doesn't tell you on which side, etc., which is also still will generally
> stick to loadstone for that type of entry point navigation.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:00:49 +0800, "Kit" <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Jacob,
>>
>> After installing into N82, does it have the tts for street names or just
>> voices only with no street name?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> KITT.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk at mailzone.co.za>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 1:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>
>>
>> FWIW, finally got around to trying to install this version on my N82,
>> although am generally happy enough with the version had, along with
>> loadstone, but it says it's not compatible with my N82, whose copyright
>> notice states 2007 - although got phone in January 2009.
>>
>> Stay well
>>
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> Blind Biker
>> Skype: BlindZA
>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>
>>
>>> Well, that's strange. Then it is possible, that it is version shipped
>>> with
>>> phones, that get this navigation for free. I know that E66, N95 is among
>>> them, and I believe N82 too.
>>> Try and report please,
>>> Vojta
>>>
>>> On 21.8.2010 06:17, Ketan Kothari wrote:
>>>> would it on N 82?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:44 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. It does not work on a Nokia E51.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pranav
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>
>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
>>> signature database 5383 (20100820) __________
>>>
>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>>>
>>> http://www.eset.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
>> signature
>> database 5386 (20100822) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>

From yesiltas1981 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 24 00:44:41 2010
From: yesiltas1981 at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D6mer_Yesiltas?=)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 02:44:41 +0300
Subject: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
In-Reply-To: <B08A766205E448F390C4473D6990BACD@rwilco>
References: <4C669431.70904@gmail.com>	<B95CA735993143D08959D3076FDA4DA9@LAURASCOMPUTER>	<D097EBAAB158462A82A098D3895A12D7@JeffsPC><4C6D9D37.8000304@gmail.com>	<4c6f44b3.26f88e0a.3a82.ffffe1bd@mx.google.com><51542253985B4C998B5B40F8D8F8B103@gateway669543a><4C6F880A.6030907@gmail.com>
	<B08A766205E448F390C4473D6990BACD@rwilco>
Message-ID: <F04B6DE025234B2A8989795FD36F21C6@merBilgisayar>

Hi, this program is only compatible with several phone models. n95 and n82 
are not among them. the firmwares of e71-e66 and e63 almost same but it can 
not be installed to e63. it can be used with e71 and e66.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk at mailzone.co.za>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:57 AM
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia

> FWIW, finally got around to trying to install this version on my N82, 
> although am generally happy enough with the version had, along with 
> loadstone, but it says it's not compatible with my N82, whose copyright 
> notice states 2007 - although got phone in January 2009.
>
> Stay well
>
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Vojtech Pol?sek" <krecoun at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>
>
>> Well, that's strange. Then it is possible, that it is version shipped 
>> with phones, that get this navigation for free. I know that E66, N95 is 
>> among them, and I believe N82 too.
>> Try and report please,
>> Vojta
>>
>> On 21.8.2010 06:17, Ketan Kothari wrote:
>>> would it on N 82?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] interesting news from nokia
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. It does not work on a Nokia E51.
>>>>
>>>> Pranav
>>>>
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From saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in  Tue Aug 24 17:48:14 2010
From: saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in (saidarshan bhagat)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:18:14 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinnVqKWFWmkQ-6aQxFoDi2+7GnUd3pSoe=UprWm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <94194.13111.qm@web95606.mail.in.yahoo.com>

Hi,
Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated all required options under positioning.
Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under the same menue.
Still facing the same issue.
As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i switch on the bluetooth while using LS.
Anybody has tried using? bluetooth during internal GPS session with LS?
Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you to help me.
Thanks.
?
With best regards.
Sai.
Mumbai,India
+91?9820 223489.?

--- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM


It looks like you have not enabled any of those under positioning
which can be found in settings on that model. When you are there,
enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the ls after
this. Vetri.

On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
> I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia n79.
> Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
> ?I couldn?t connect my phone with this device, I was getting connection
> error.
> As per the documentation I have also removed the ?paring of this device but
> it didn?t work.
> In this test I observed one strange thing ?regarding loadstone,internal GPS
> receiver is also goes fail ?if ?the Bluetooth connectivity is on. I was
> getting ?Connection error? while using ?internal receiver too.
>
> I had to reboote my device after this error ?to work with internal receiver.
> We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with internal receiver?.
> ?anybody has ?encountered same issue in N79?
>
> Requesting all my expert ?friends to throw some light on above mentioned
> issues.
> Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>
>
> With best regards.
> Sai.
> Mumbai, India.
> +91 9820 223489.
>
>
>
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From ewoudmulder at gmail.com  Tue Aug 24 20:59:43 2010
From: ewoudmulder at gmail.com (Ewoud)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:59:43 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] wich receiver?
Message-ID: <8EFD7C22449C41D0BACE06081268A458@emmo>

Hi all,

i am a brand new loadstone user.
i won't bother you with questions i can find in the manual, but this one is a matter of trying and your experience.
Can you tell me what is now, the best blue tooth receiver ther is available?
i am not in to all the models and technical details.
Thx Ewoud
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From djpolar at gmail.com  Tue Aug 24 21:30:41 2010
From: djpolar at gmail.com (Polaris-17)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:30:41 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] wich receiver?
In-Reply-To: <8EFD7C22449C41D0BACE06081268A458@emmo>
References: <8EFD7C22449C41D0BACE06081268A458@emmo>
Message-ID: <4C742BF1.4060000@gmail.com>

Same question.
And which chipsets are the best for us? SkyTraq Venus 6? Or MTK?


W dniu 2010-08-24 21:59, Ewoud pisze:
> Hi all,
> i am a brand new loadstone user.
> i won't bother you with questions i can find in the manual, but this one
> is a matter of trying and your experience.
> Can you tell me what is now, the best blue tooth receiver ther is available?
> i am not in to all the models and technical details.
> Thx Ewoud
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone

From dave at mielke.cc  Tue Aug 24 21:35:57 2010
From: dave at mielke.cc (Dave Mielke)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:35:57 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] Key editor questions.
In-Reply-To: <94194.13111.qm@web95606.mail.in.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTinnVqKWFWmkQ-6aQxFoDi2+7GnUd3pSoe=UprWm@mail.gmail.com>
	<94194.13111.qm@web95606.mail.in.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20100824203557.GM20065@gamma.private.mielke.cc>

Maybe I'm missing the obvious, but I can't figure out how to enter special
characters into the parameter for a key function. For example, I'd like to
enter a backslash in the parameter for load_points. When I press the asterisk
it doesn't open the "more symbols" dialogue. What have I overlooked?

On a related topic: What do you think about showing the parameter along with
the function when scrolling through the functions assigned to a key? For
example, if I have several add_database commands, it's not possible to tell
which is which without moving to the parametr tab each time, and then, since
that opens an editor, one can't just left-arrow back to the function tab.

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From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 12:32:13 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:32:13 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
References: <94194.13111.qm@web95606.mail.in.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005301cb4449$34c3f530$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>

Hi Si,

If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having similar problem with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having it paired to anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and searching around for solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine failed.  So, yours is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.  

Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage to find any solution.

Thanks,
KITT. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: saidarshan bhagat 
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79


      Hi,
      Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated all required options under positioning.
      Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under the same menue.
      Still facing the same issue.
      As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i switch on the bluetooth while using LS.
      Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS session with LS?
      Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you to help me.
      Thanks.
       
      With best regards.
      Sai.
      Mumbai,India
      +91 9820 223489. 

      --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:


        From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
        Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
        To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
        Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM


        It looks like you have not enabled any of those under positioning
        which can be found in settings on that model. When you are there,
        enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the ls after
        this. Vetri.

        On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
        > Dear Friends,
        >
        > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
        > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia n79.
        > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
        >  I couldn?t connect my phone with this device, I was getting connection
        > error.
        > As per the documentation I have also removed the  paring of this device but
        > it didn?t work.
        > In this test I observed one strange thing  regarding loadstone,internal GPS
        > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth connectivity is on. I was
        > getting ?Connection error? while using  internal receiver too.
        >
        > I had to reboote my device after this error  to work with internal receiver.
        > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with internal receiver?.
        >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
        >
        > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some light on above mentioned
        > issues.
        > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
        >
        >
        > With best regards.
        > Sai.
        > Mumbai, India.
        > +91 9820 223489.
        >
        >
        >
        _______________________________________________
        Loadstone mailing list
        Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
        http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
     




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From vadhimoolam at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 13:54:01 2010
From: vadhimoolam at gmail.com (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:54:01 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
In-Reply-To: <005301cb4449$34c3f530$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>
References: <94194.13111.qm@web95606.mail.in.yahoo.com>
	<005301cb4449$34c3f530$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiktevcjqjsAmNn7npzgNCsBB3H0--+JsWLsf9m-@mail.gmail.com>

Are you sure that it's not a hardware problem? Have you two tested out
to see if the internal receiver is working with Nokia maps? Vetri.

On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Si,
>
> If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having similar problem
> with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having it paired to
> anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and searching around for
> solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine failed.  So, yours
> is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>
> Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage to find any
> solution.
>
> Thanks,
> KITT.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: saidarshan bhagat
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>
>
>       Hi,
>       Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated all required
> options under positioning.
>       Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under the same
> menue.
>       Still facing the same issue.
>       As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i switch on the
> bluetooth while using LS.
>       Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS session with
> LS?
>       Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you to help me.
>       Thanks.
>
>       With best regards.
>       Sai.
>       Mumbai,India
>       +91 9820 223489.
>
>       --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>
>
>         It looks like you have not enabled any of those under positioning
>         which can be found in settings on that model. When you are there,
>         enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the ls after
>         this. Vetri.
>
>         On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>         > Dear Friends,
>         >
>         > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>         > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia n79.
>         > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>         >  I couldn?t connect my phone with this device, I was getting
> connection
>         > error.
>         > As per the documentation I have also removed the  paring of this
> device but
>         > it didn?t work.
>         > In this test I observed one strange thing  regarding
> loadstone,internal GPS
>         > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth connectivity is on.
> I was
>         > getting ?Connection error? while using  internal receiver too.
>         >
>         > I had to reboote my device after this error  to work with internal
> receiver.
>         > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with internal
> receiver?.
>         >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
>         >
>         > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some light on above
> mentioned
>         > issues.
>         > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>         >
>         >
>         > With best regards.
>         > Sai.
>         > Mumbai, India.
>         > +91 9820 223489.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         _______________________________________________
>         Loadstone mailing list
>         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
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>

From saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in  Wed Aug 25 17:09:29 2010
From: saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in (saidarshan bhagat)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:39:29 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiktevcjqjsAmNn7npzgNCsBB3H0--+JsWLsf9m-@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <700982.94685.qm@web95606.mail.in.yahoo.com>

Hi,
?
Internal device is working fine but this external device goes fail.
?As informed, internal GPS also goes fail?if ?i switch on the bluetooth.
I have reinstalled?the LS but problems remains same.
I think Kitt?has ?also encountared the same issue with n79.
Is there anybody else has faced this issue?Any directions to connect external device??
Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
?
With best regards.
Sai.
Mumbai,India.
+91 9820 223489.


--- On Wed, 25/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 6:24 PM


Are you sure that it's not a hardware problem? Have you two tested out
to see if the internal receiver is working with Nokia maps? Vetri.

On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Si,
>
> If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having similar problem
> with my N79.? As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having it paired to
> anything, it will have error.? So, after looking and searching around for
> solution while all other N79 users? are working ok, mine failed.? So, yours
> is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>
> Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage to find any
> solution.
>
> Thanks,
> KITT.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: saidarshan bhagat
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>
>
>? ? ???Hi,
>? ? ???Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated all required
> options under positioning.
>? ? ???Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under the same
> menue.
>? ? ???Still facing the same issue.
>? ? ???As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i switch on the
> bluetooth while using LS.
>? ? ???Anybody has tried using? bluetooth during internal GPS session with
> LS?
>? ? ???Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you to help me.
>? ? ???Thanks.
>
>? ? ???With best regards.
>? ? ???Sai.
>? ? ???Mumbai,India
>? ? ???+91 9820 223489.
>
>? ? ???--- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>? ? ? ???From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>? ? ? ???Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>? ? ? ???To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>? ? ? ???Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>
>
>? ? ? ???It looks like you have not enabled any of those under positioning
>? ? ? ???which can be found in settings on that model. When you are there,
>? ? ? ???enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the ls after
>? ? ? ???this. Vetri.
>
>? ? ? ???On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>? ? ? ???> Dear Friends,
>? ? ? ???>
>? ? ? ???> Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>? ? ? ???> I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia n79.
>? ? ? ???> Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>? ? ? ???>? I couldn?t connect my phone with this device, I was getting
> connection
>? ? ? ???> error.
>? ? ? ???> As per the documentation I have also removed the? paring of this
> device but
>? ? ? ???> it didn?t work.
>? ? ? ???> In this test I observed one strange thing? regarding
> loadstone,internal GPS
>? ? ? ???> receiver is also goes fail? if? the Bluetooth connectivity is on.
> I was
>? ? ? ???> getting ?Connection error? while using? internal receiver too.
>? ? ? ???>
>? ? ? ???> I had to reboote my device after this error? to work with internal
> receiver.
>? ? ? ???> We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with internal
> receiver?.
>? ? ? ???>? anybody has? encountered same issue in N79?
>? ? ? ???>
>? ? ? ???> Requesting all my expert? friends to throw some light on above
> mentioned
>? ? ? ???> issues.
>? ? ? ???> Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>? ? ? ???>
>? ? ? ???>
>? ? ? ???> With best regards.
>? ? ? ???> Sai.
>? ? ? ???> Mumbai, India.
>? ? ? ???> +91 9820 223489.
>? ? ? ???>
>? ? ? ???>
>? ? ? ???>
>? ? ? ???_______________________________________________
>? ? ? ???Loadstone mailing list
>? ? ? ???Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>? ? ? ???http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
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From vadhimoolam at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 21:00:17 2010
From: vadhimoolam at gmail.com (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:00:17 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
In-Reply-To: <700982.94685.qm@web95606.mail.in.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTiktevcjqjsAmNn7npzgNCsBB3H0--+JsWLsf9m-@mail.gmail.com>
	<700982.94685.qm@web95606.mail.in.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik8ts1S33oGE3MjDeKHZAFeG3G=VhsrW5usm+3Q@mail.gmail.com>

It means that your problem is with the bluetooth. How about connecting
other bluetooth devices like your headset, PC, other phones etc? Did
you do a hard reset to see if the problem got fixed? Because sometimes
it could simply be a software problem and it could be fixed by
formatting the phone. But one thing looks clear: It's certainly not
the issue to do with loadstone.

Vetri.

On 25/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Internal device is working fine but this external device goes fail.
> ?As informed, internal GPS also goes fail?if ?i switch on the bluetooth.
> I have reinstalled?the LS but problems remains same.
> I think Kitt?has ?also encountared the same issue with n79.
> Is there anybody else has faced this issue?Any directions to connect
> external device?
> Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>
> With best regards.
> Sai.
> Mumbai,India.
> +91 9820 223489.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 25/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 6:24 PM
>
>
> Are you sure that it's not a hardware problem? Have you two tested out
> to see if the internal receiver is working with Nokia maps? Vetri.
>
> On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Si,
>>
>> If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having similar
>> problem
>> with my N79.? As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having it paired
>> to
>> anything, it will have error.? So, after looking and searching around for
>> solution while all other N79 users? are working ok, mine failed.? So,
>> yours
>> is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>>
>> Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage to find
>> any
>> solution.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> KITT.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: saidarshan bhagat
>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>
>>
>>? ? ???Hi,
>>? ? ???Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated all
>> required
>> options under positioning.
>>? ? ???Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under the same
>> menue.
>>? ? ???Still facing the same issue.
>>? ? ???As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i switch on the
>> bluetooth while using LS.
>>? ? ???Anybody has tried using? bluetooth during internal GPS session with
>> LS?
>>? ? ???Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you to help me.
>>? ? ???Thanks.
>>
>>? ? ???With best regards.
>>? ? ???Sai.
>>? ? ???Mumbai,India
>>? ? ???+91 9820 223489.
>>
>>? ? ???--- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>? ? ? ???From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>? ? ? ???Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>? ? ? ???To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>? ? ? ???Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>>
>>
>>? ? ? ???It looks like you have not enabled any of those under positioning
>>? ? ? ???which can be found in settings on that model. When you are there,
>>? ? ? ???enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the ls after
>>? ? ? ???this. Vetri.
>>
>>? ? ? ???On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in>
>> wrote:
>>? ? ? ???> Dear Friends,
>>? ? ? ???>
>>? ? ? ???> Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>>? ? ? ???> I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia n79.
>>? ? ? ???> Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>>? ? ? ???>? I couldn?t connect my phone with this device, I was getting
>> connection
>>? ? ? ???> error.
>>? ? ? ???> As per the documentation I have also removed the? paring of this
>> device but
>>? ? ? ???> it didn?t work.
>>? ? ? ???> In this test I observed one strange thing? regarding
>> loadstone,internal GPS
>>? ? ? ???> receiver is also goes fail? if? the Bluetooth connectivity is
>> on.
>> I was
>>? ? ? ???> getting ?Connection error? while using? internal receiver too.
>>? ? ? ???>
>>? ? ? ???> I had to reboote my device after this error? to work with
>> internal
>> receiver.
>>? ? ? ???> We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with internal
>> receiver?.
>>? ? ? ???>? anybody has? encountered same issue in N79?
>>? ? ? ???>
>>? ? ? ???> Requesting all my expert? friends to throw some light on above
>> mentioned
>>? ? ? ???> issues.
>>? ? ? ???> Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>>? ? ? ???>
>>? ? ? ???>
>>? ? ? ???> With best regards.
>>? ? ? ???> Sai.
>>? ? ? ???> Mumbai, India.
>>? ? ? ???> +91 9820 223489.
>>? ? ? ???>
>>? ? ? ???>
>>? ? ? ???>
>>? ? ? ???_______________________________________________
>>? ? ? ???Loadstone mailing list
>>? ? ? ???Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>? ? ? ???http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
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From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 25 23:10:29 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:10:29 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
References: <700982.94685.qm@web95606.mail.in.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005601cb44a3$cef67f10$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>

Yes, mine having similar problem.  Never.  As I said before, as long as blue tooth on, even though not paired with anything, this connection error will happen.  Do what you may, uninstall, reinstall and so on on Load stone but it will not work.  The only way is to off the phone, then on back and off blue tooth.

2 things which I have never tried yet though.  First is I have never formatted the phone cause to many things to set back and since internal is working wonderfully.  Second is I have never tried pairing an external blue tooth.  For the curiosity of it, might just borrow a friend's phone and try it out.

Si, What's your Firmware please?  And if you reformat phone, pls inform to see if it works.  Cause if it does work, I might give it a shot as well.

Regards,
KITT. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: saidarshan bhagat 
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79


      Hi,

      Internal device is working fine but this external device goes fail.
       As informed, internal GPS also goes fail if  i switch on the bluetooth.
      I have reinstalled the LS but problems remains same.
      I think Kitt has  also encountared the same issue with n79.
      Is there anybody else has faced this issue?Any directions to connect external device? 
      Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.

      With best regards.
      Sai.
      Mumbai,India.
      +91 9820 223489.


      --- On Wed, 25/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:


        From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
        Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
        To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
        Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 6:24 PM


        Are you sure that it's not a hardware problem? Have you two tested out
        to see if the internal receiver is working with Nokia maps? Vetri.

        On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
        > Hi Si,
        >
        > If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having similar problem
        > with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having it paired to
        > anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and searching around for
        > solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine failed.  So, yours
        > is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
        >
        > Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage to find any
        > solution.
        >
        > Thanks,
        > KITT.
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: saidarshan bhagat
        > To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
        > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
        > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
        >
        >
        >       Hi,
        >       Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated all required
        > options under positioning.
        >       Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under the same
        > menue.
        >       Still facing the same issue.
        >       As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i switch on the
        > bluetooth while using LS.
        >       Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS session with
        > LS?
        >       Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you to help me.
        >       Thanks.
        >
        >       With best regards.
        >       Sai.
        >       Mumbai,India
        >       +91 9820 223489.
        >
        >       --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
        > <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
        >
        >
        >         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
        >         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
        >         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
        >         Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
        >
        >
        >         It looks like you have not enabled any of those under positioning
        >         which can be found in settings on that model. When you are there,
        >         enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the ls after
        >         this. Vetri.
        >
        >         On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
        >         > Dear Friends,
        >         >
        >         > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
        >         > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia n79.
        >         > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
        >         >  I couldn?t connect my phone with this device, I was getting
        > connection
        >         > error.
        >         > As per the documentation I have also removed the  paring of this
        > device but
        >         > it didn?t work.
        >         > In this test I observed one strange thing  regarding
        > loadstone,internal GPS
        >         > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth connectivity is on.
        > I was
        >         > getting ?Connection error? while using  internal receiver too.
        >         >
        >         > I had to reboote my device after this error  to work with internal
        > receiver.
        >         > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with internal
        > receiver?.
        >         >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
        >         >
        >         > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some light on above
        > mentioned
        >         > issues.
        >         > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > With best regards.
        >         > Sai.
        >         > Mumbai, India.
        >         > +91 9820 223489.
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         _______________________________________________
        >         Loadstone mailing list
        >         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
        >         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >
        >
        > _______________________________________________
        > Loadstone mailing list
        > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
        > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
        >
        _______________________________________________
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        Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
        http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
     




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From vadhimoolam at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 01:10:34 2010
From: vadhimoolam at gmail.com (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:10:34 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
In-Reply-To: <005601cb44a3$cef67f10$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>
References: <700982.94685.qm@web95606.mail.in.yahoo.com>
	<005601cb44a3$cef67f10$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>
Message-ID: <AANLkTina1oZu9i4P3CKoRJikStvJEGonMs4zO95haEtN@mail.gmail.com>

And to do a hard reset, turn-off the phone and press star, 3 and the
call keys together. While holding them, press the power button and
hold all of them until you hear the start-up tone. Make sure to
back-up your contacts since everything on the phone memory will be
washed out. Vetri.

On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, mine having similar problem.  Never.  As I said before, as long as blue
> tooth on, even though not paired with anything, this connection error will
> happen.  Do what you may, uninstall, reinstall and so on on Load stone but
> it will not work.  The only way is to off the phone, then on back and off
> blue tooth.
>
> 2 things which I have never tried yet though.  First is I have never
> formatted the phone cause to many things to set back and since internal is
> working wonderfully.  Second is I have never tried pairing an external blue
> tooth.  For the curiosity of it, might just borrow a friend's phone and try
> it out.
>
> Si, What's your Firmware please?  And if you reformat phone, pls inform to
> see if it works.  Cause if it does work, I might give it a shot as well.
>
> Regards,
> KITT.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: saidarshan bhagat
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>
>
>       Hi,
>
>       Internal device is working fine but this external device goes fail.
>        As informed, internal GPS also goes fail if  i switch on the
> bluetooth.
>       I have reinstalled the LS but problems remains same.
>       I think Kitt has  also encountared the same issue with n79.
>       Is there anybody else has faced this issue?Any directions to connect
> external device?
>       Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>
>       With best regards.
>       Sai.
>       Mumbai,India.
>       +91 9820 223489.
>
>
>       --- On Wed, 25/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 6:24 PM
>
>
>         Are you sure that it's not a hardware problem? Have you two tested
> out
>         to see if the internal receiver is working with Nokia maps? Vetri.
>
>         On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>         > Hi Si,
>         >
>         > If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having
> similar problem
>         > with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having it
> paired to
>         > anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and searching
> around for
>         > solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine failed.
> So, yours
>         > is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>         >
>         > Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage to
> find any
>         > solution.
>         >
>         > Thanks,
>         > KITT.
>         > ----- Original Message -----
>         > From: saidarshan bhagat
>         > To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
>         > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>         >
>         >
>         >       Hi,
>         >       Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated
> all required
>         > options under positioning.
>         >       Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under the
> same
>         > menue.
>         >       Still facing the same issue.
>         >       As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i switch
> on the
>         > bluetooth while using LS.
>         >       Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS
> session with
>         > LS?
>         >       Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you to
> help me.
>         >       Thanks.
>         >
>         >       With best regards.
>         >       Sai.
>         >       Mumbai,India
>         >       +91 9820 223489.
>         >
>         >       --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>         > <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >
>         >
>         >         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>         >         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver
> with n79
>         >         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         >         Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>         >
>         >
>         >         It looks like you have not enabled any of those under
> positioning
>         >         which can be found in settings on that model. When you are
> there,
>         >         enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the
> ls after
>         >         this. Vetri.
>         >
>         >         On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat
> <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>         >         > Dear Friends,
>         >         >
>         >         > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>         >         > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia
> n79.
>         >         > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>         >         >  I couldn?t connect my phone with this device, I was
> getting
>         > connection
>         >         > error.
>         >         > As per the documentation I have also removed the  paring
> of this
>         > device but
>         >         > it didn?t work.
>         >         > In this test I observed one strange thing  regarding
>         > loadstone,internal GPS
>         >         > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth
> connectivity is on.
>         > I was
>         >         > getting ?Connection error? while using  internal
> receiver too.
>         >         >
>         >         > I had to reboote my device after this error  to work
> with internal
>         > receiver.
>         >         > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with
> internal
>         > receiver?.
>         >         >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
>         >         >
>         >         > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some light on
> above
>         > mentioned
>         >         > issues.
>         >         > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > With best regards.
>         >         > Sai.
>         >         > Mumbai, India.
>         >         > +91 9820 223489.
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         _______________________________________________
>         >         Loadstone mailing list
>         >         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         >         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >
>         > _______________________________________________
>         > Loadstone mailing list
>         > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>         >
>         _______________________________________________
>         Loadstone mailing list
>         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>

From eeejiajiann at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 04:05:34 2010
From: eeejiajiann at gmail.com (eeejiajiann at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 03:05:34 +0000
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
Message-ID: <4c75dda9.4411df0a.62bc.3b91@mx.google.com>

Hi there,
if you have an external receiver, would you try this?
1. Turn on your receiver.
2. Rum loadstone.
3. Go option and go to gps.
4. Go find gps external gps
5. Select your bluetooth gps. Turn on bluetooth on phone if prompted.
6. You may be asked to key in the number as pass key. Normally is 0000. Please check your receiver manual.

If this works, it means that m79 always take bluetooth as 1st connection. Please report back.

CALEB EEE
(Using Nokia E52)


-----------------------------
From:	"Kit" <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com>
Subject:	Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
Date:		25th August 2010 7:35 PM

Hi Si,

If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having similar problem with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having it paired to anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and searching around for solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine failed.  So, yours is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.  

Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage to find any solution.

Thanks,
KITT. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: saidarshan bhagat 
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79


      Hi,
      Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated all required options under positioning.
      Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under the same menue.
      Still facing the same issue.
      As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i switch on the bluetooth while using LS.
      Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS session with LS?
      Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you to help me.
      Thanks.
       
      With best regards.
      Sai.
      Mumbai,India
      +91 9820 223489. 

      --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:


        From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
        Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
        To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
        Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM


        It looks like you have not enabled any of those under positioning
        which can be found in settings on that model. When you are there,
        enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the ls after
        this. Vetri.

        On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
        > Dear Friends,
        >
        > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
        > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia n79.
        > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
        >  I  couldn?t  connect my phone with this device, I was getting connection
        > error.
        > As per the documentation I have also removed the  paring of this device but
        > it  didn?t  work.
        > In this test I observed one strange thing  regarding loadstone,internal GPS
        > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth connectivity is on. I was
        > getting  ?Connection error?  while using  internal receiver too.
        >
        > I had to reboote my device after this error  to work with internal receiver.
        > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with internal receiver?.
        >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
        >
        > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some light on above mentioned
        > issues.
        > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
        >
        >
        > With best regards.
        > Sai.
        > Mumbai, India.
        > +91 9820 223489.
        >
        >
        >
        _______________________________________________
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        Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
        http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
     




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From eeejiajiann at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 08:05:16 2010
From: eeejiajiann at gmail.com (eeejiajiann at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 07:05:16 +0000
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
Message-ID: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com>

Hi about the hard reset, i might be wrong here. From what i know you'll have to press all those button together, as in simultaneously and not holding 1 key while looking for another to press. Meaning you'll have to place your fingers on all keys and press at 1 go holding until you hear beep?



CALEB EEE
(Using Nokia E52)


-----------------------------
From:	"Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
Subject:	Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
Date:		26th August 2010 8:12 AM

And to do a hard reset, turn-off the phone and press star, 3 and the
call keys together. While holding them, press the power button and
hold all of them until you hear the start-up tone. Make sure to
back-up your contacts since everything on the phone memory will be
washed out. Vetri.

On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, mine having similar problem.  Never.  As I said before, as long as blue
> tooth on, even though not paired with anything, this connection error will
> happen.  Do what you may, uninstall, reinstall and so on on Load stone but
> it will not work.  The only way is to off the phone, then on back and off
> blue tooth.
>
> 2 things which I have never tried yet though.  First is I have never
> formatted the phone cause to many things to set back and since internal is
> working wonderfully.  Second is I have never tried pairing an external blue
> tooth.  For the curiosity of it, might just borrow a friend's phone and try
> it out.
>
> Si, What's your Firmware please?  And if you reformat phone, pls inform to
> see if it works.  Cause if it does work, I might give it a shot as well.
>
> Regards,
> KITT.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: saidarshan bhagat
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>
>
>       Hi,
>
>       Internal device is working fine but this external device goes fail.
>        As informed, internal GPS also goes fail if  i switch on the
> bluetooth.
>       I have reinstalled the LS but problems remains same.
>       I think Kitt has  also encountared the same issue with n79.
>       Is there anybody else has faced this issue?Any directions to connect
> external device?
>       Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>
>       With best regards.
>       Sai.
>       Mumbai,India.
>       +91 9820 223489.
>
>
>       --- On Wed, 25/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 6:24 PM
>
>
>         Are you sure that it's not a hardware problem? Have you two tested
> out
>         to see if the internal receiver is working with Nokia maps? Vetri.
>
>         On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>         > Hi Si,
>         >
>         > If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having
> similar problem
>         > with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having it
> paired to
>         > anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and searching
> around for
>         > solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine failed.
> So, yours
>         > is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>         >
>         > Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage to
> find any
>         > solution.
>         >
>         > Thanks,
>         > KITT.
>         > ----- Original Message -----
>         > From: saidarshan bhagat
>         > To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
>         > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>         >
>         >
>         >       Hi,
>         >       Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated
> all required
>         > options under positioning.
>         >       Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under the
> same
>         > menue.
>         >       Still facing the same issue.
>         >       As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i switch
> on the
>         > bluetooth while using LS.
>         >       Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS
> session with
>         > LS?
>         >       Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you to
> help me.
>         >       Thanks.
>         >
>         >       With best regards.
>         >       Sai.
>         >       Mumbai,India
>         >       +91 9820 223489.
>         >
>         >       --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>         > <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >
>         >
>         >         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>         >         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver
> with n79
>         >         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         >         Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>         >
>         >
>         >         It looks like you have not enabled any of those under
> positioning
>         >         which can be found in settings on that model. When you are
> there,
>         >         enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the
> ls after
>         >         this. Vetri.
>         >
>         >         On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat
> <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>         >         > Dear Friends,
>         >         >
>         >         > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>         >         > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia
> n79.
>         >         > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>         >         >  I  couldn?t  connect my phone with this device, I was
> getting
>         > connection
>         >         > error.
>         >         > As per the documentation I have also removed the  paring
> of this
>         > device but
>         >         > it  didn?t  work.
>         >         > In this test I observed one strange thing  regarding
>         > loadstone,internal GPS
>         >         > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth
> connectivity is on.
>         > I was
>         >         > getting  ?Connection error?  while using  internal
> receiver too.
>         >         >
>         >         > I had to reboote my device after this error  to work
> with internal
>         > receiver.
>         >         > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with
> internal
>         > receiver?.
>         >         >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
>         >         >
>         >         > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some light on
> above
>         > mentioned
>         >         > issues.
>         >         > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > With best regards.
>         >         > Sai.
>         >         > Mumbai, India.
>         >         > +91 9820 223489.
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         _______________________________________________
>         >         Loadstone mailing list
>         >         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         >         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >
>         > _______________________________________________
>         > Loadstone mailing list
>         > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>         >
>         _______________________________________________
>         Loadstone mailing list
>         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
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From prasad.modu at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 08:31:14 2010
From: prasad.modu at gmail.com (siva prasad)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:01:14 +0530
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
In-Reply-To: <4c75dda9.4411df0a.62bc.3b91@mx.google.com>
References: <4c75dda9.4411df0a.62bc.3b91@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=rb1FJMHFax=h3UaYyZYLVuT6ksdJKaiUkid+E@mail.gmail.com>

Hai all load stoneusers, I am siva prasad from India, planning to
take Nokia E52 please give your opinions ,Thank you.

On 8/26/10, eeejiajiann at gmail.com <eeejiajiann at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
> if you have an external receiver, would you try this?
> 1. Turn on your receiver.
> 2. Rum loadstone.
> 3. Go option and go to gps.
> 4. Go find gps external gps
> 5. Select your bluetooth gps. Turn on bluetooth on phone if prompted.
> 6. You may be asked to key in the number as pass key. Normally is 0000.
> Please check your receiver manual.
>
> If this works, it means that m79 always take bluetooth as 1st connection.
> Please report back.
>
> CALEB EEE
> (Using Nokia E52)
>
>
> -----------------------------
> From:	"Kit" <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com>
> Subject:	Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
> Date:		25th August 2010 7:35 PM
>
> Hi Si,
>
> If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having similar problem
> with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having it paired to
> anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and searching around for
> solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine failed.  So, yours
> is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>
> Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage to find any
> solution.
>
> Thanks,
> KITT.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: saidarshan bhagat
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>
>
>       Hi,
>       Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated all required
> options under positioning.
>       Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under the same
> menue.
>       Still facing the same issue.
>       As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i switch on the
> bluetooth while using LS.
>       Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS session with
> LS?
>       Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you to help me.
>       Thanks.
>
>       With best regards.
>       Sai.
>       Mumbai,India
>       +91 9820 223489.
>
>       --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>
>
>         It looks like you have not enabled any of those under positioning
>         which can be found in settings on that model. When you are there,
>         enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the ls after
>         this. Vetri.
>
>         On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>         > Dear Friends,
>         >
>         > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>         > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia n79.
>         > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>         >  I  couldn?t  connect my phone with this device, I was getting
> connection
>         > error.
>         > As per the documentation I have also removed the  paring of this
> device but
>         > it  didn?t  work.
>         > In this test I observed one strange thing  regarding
> loadstone,internal GPS
>         > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth connectivity is on.
> I was
>         > getting  ?Connection error?  while using  internal receiver too.
>         >
>         > I had to reboote my device after this error  to work with internal
> receiver.
>         > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with internal
> receiver?.
>         >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
>         >
>         > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some light on above
> mentioned
>         > issues.
>         > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>         >
>         >
>         > With best regards.
>         > Sai.
>         > Mumbai, India.
>         > +91 9820 223489.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         _______________________________________________
>         Loadstone mailing list
>         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>

From miranda.ter.hofstede at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 08:51:46 2010
From: miranda.ter.hofstede at gmail.com (Miranda)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:51:46 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama>

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can also do a hard
reset by pressing *#7370#
So this is star, hash, 7, 3, 7, 0, hash. Just press them after one another,
so no keys at the same time.

Or does this only work on the older Symbian phones?

Kind regards,
Miranda


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <eeejiajiann at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79


> Hi about the hard reset, i might be wrong here. From what i know you'll
> have to press all those button together, as in simultaneously and not
> holding 1 key while looking for another to press. Meaning you'll have to
> place your fingers on all keys and press at 1 go holding until you hear
> beep?
>
>
>
> CALEB EEE
> (Using Nokia E52)
>
>
> -----------------------------
> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
> Date: 26th August 2010 8:12 AM
>
> And to do a hard reset, turn-off the phone and press star, 3 and the
> call keys together. While holding them, press the power button and
> hold all of them until you hear the start-up tone. Make sure to
> back-up your contacts since everything on the phone memory will be
> washed out. Vetri.
>
> On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, mine having similar problem.  Never.  As I said before, as long as
>> blue
>> tooth on, even though not paired with anything, this connection error
>> will
>> happen.  Do what you may, uninstall, reinstall and so on on Load stone
>> but
>> it will not work.  The only way is to off the phone, then on back and off
>> blue tooth.
>>
>> 2 things which I have never tried yet though.  First is I have never
>> formatted the phone cause to many things to set back and since internal
>> is
>> working wonderfully.  Second is I have never tried pairing an external
>> blue
>> tooth.  For the curiosity of it, might just borrow a friend's phone and
>> try
>> it out.
>>
>> Si, What's your Firmware please?  And if you reformat phone, pls inform
>> to
>> see if it works.  Cause if it does work, I might give it a shot as well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> KITT.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: saidarshan bhagat
>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>
>>
>>       Hi,
>>
>>       Internal device is working fine but this external device goes fail.
>>        As informed, internal GPS also goes fail if  i switch on the
>> bluetooth.
>>       I have reinstalled the LS but problems remains same.
>>       I think Kitt has  also encountared the same issue with n79.
>>       Is there anybody else has faced this issue?Any directions to
>> connect
>> external device?
>>       Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>>
>>       With best regards.
>>       Sai.
>>       Mumbai,India.
>>       +91 9820 223489.
>>
>>
>>       --- On Wed, 25/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 6:24 PM
>>
>>
>>         Are you sure that it's not a hardware problem? Have you two
>> tested
>> out
>>         to see if the internal receiver is working with Nokia maps?
>> Vetri.
>>
>>         On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>         > Hi Si,
>>         >
>>         > If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having
>> similar problem
>>         > with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having
>> it
>> paired to
>>         > anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and searching
>> around for
>>         > solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine
>> failed.
>> So, yours
>>         > is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>>         >
>>         > Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage
>> to
>> find any
>>         > solution.
>>         >
>>         > Thanks,
>>         > KITT.
>>         > ----- Original Message -----
>>         > From: saidarshan bhagat
>>         > To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
>>         > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with
>> n79
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >       Hi,
>>         >       Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated
>> all required
>>         > options under positioning.
>>         >       Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under
>> the
>> same
>>         > menue.
>>         >       Still facing the same issue.
>>         >       As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i
>> switch
>> on the
>>         > bluetooth while using LS.
>>         >       Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS
>> session with
>>         > LS?
>>         >       Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you
>> to
>> help me.
>>         >       Thanks.
>>         >
>>         >       With best regards.
>>         >       Sai.
>>         >       Mumbai,India
>>         >       +91 9820 223489.
>>         >
>>         >       --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>         > <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>         >         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS
>> receiver
>> with n79
>>         >         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         >         Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >         It looks like you have not enabled any of those under
>> positioning
>>         >         which can be found in settings on that model. When you
>> are
>> there,
>>         >         enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on
>> the
>> ls after
>>         >         this. Vetri.
>>         >
>>         >         On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat
>> <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>         >         > Dear Friends,
>>         >         >
>>         >         > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>>         >         > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my
>> nokia
>> n79.
>>         >         > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>>         >         >  I  couldn?t  connect my phone with this device, I
>> was
>> getting
>>         > connection
>>         >         > error.
>>         >         > As per the documentation I have also removed the
>> paring
>> of this
>>         > device but
>>         >         > it  didn?t  work.
>>         >         > In this test I observed one strange thing  regarding
>>         > loadstone,internal GPS
>>         >         > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth
>> connectivity is on.
>>         > I was
>>         >         > getting  ?Connection error?  while using  internal
>> receiver too.
>>         >         >
>>         >         > I had to reboote my device after this error  to work
>> with internal
>>         > receiver.
>>         >         > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with
>> internal
>>         > receiver?.
>>         >         >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
>>         >         >
>>         >         > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some light
>> on
>> above
>>         > mentioned
>>         >         > issues.
>>         >         > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>>         >         >
>>         >         >
>>         >         > With best regards.
>>         >         > Sai.
>>         >         > Mumbai, India.
>>         >         > +91 9820 223489.
>>         >         >
>>         >         >
>>         >         >
>>         >         _______________________________________________
>>         >         Loadstone mailing list
>>         >         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         >         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > _______________________________________________
>>         > Loadstone mailing list
>>         > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>         >
>>         _______________________________________________
>>         Loadstone mailing list
>>         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Loadstone mailing list
>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
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>
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From eeejiajiann at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 08:55:14 2010
From: eeejiajiann at gmail.com (eeejiajiann at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 07:55:14 +0000
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
Message-ID: <4c76201a.5396cc0a.2a20.4a9e@mx.google.com>

Hi, would you be a little more detail? What do you want to know about e52? You got to ask what you want? Big storage? Multi media? Phone size matter to you? Fast processor? Etc. All these are important as it would gear and steer you towards your desired phone. No 1 single phone will fit all your needs though. So, you'll have to pick and sacrifice. Hth.



CALEB EEE
(Using Nokia E52)


-----------------------------
From:	"siva prasad" <prasad.modu at gmail.com>
Subject:	Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
Date:		26th August 2010 3:34 PM

Hai all load stoneusers, I am siva prasad from India, planning to
take Nokia E52 please give your opinions ,Thank you.

On 8/26/10, eeejiajiann at gmail.com <eeejiajiann at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
> if you have an external receiver, would you try this?
> 1. Turn on your receiver.
> 2. Rum loadstone.
> 3. Go option and go to gps.
> 4. Go find gps external gps
> 5. Select your bluetooth gps. Turn on bluetooth on phone if prompted.
> 6. You may be asked to key in the number as pass key. Normally is 0000.
> Please check your receiver manual.
>
> If this works, it means that m79 always take bluetooth as 1st connection.
> Please report back.
>
> CALEB EEE
> (Using Nokia E52)
>
>
> -----------------------------
> From:	"Kit" <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com>
> Subject:	Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
> Date:		25th August 2010 7:35 PM
>
> Hi Si,
>
> If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having similar problem
> with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having it paired to
> anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and searching around for
> solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine failed.  So, yours
> is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>
> Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage to find any
> solution.
>
> Thanks,
> KITT.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: saidarshan bhagat
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>
>
>       Hi,
>       Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated all required
> options under positioning.
>       Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under the same
> menue.
>       Still facing the same issue.
>       As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i switch on the
> bluetooth while using LS.
>       Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS session with
> LS?
>       Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you to help me.
>       Thanks.
>
>       With best regards.
>       Sai.
>       Mumbai,India
>       +91 9820 223489.
>
>       --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>
>
>         It looks like you have not enabled any of those under positioning
>         which can be found in settings on that model. When you are there,
>         enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on the ls after
>         this. Vetri.
>
>         On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>         > Dear Friends,
>         >
>         > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>         > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my nokia n79.
>         > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>         >  I   couldn?t   connect my phone with this device, I was getting
> connection
>         > error.
>         > As per the documentation I have also removed the  paring of this
> device but
>         > it   didn?t   work.
>         > In this test I observed one strange thing  regarding
> loadstone,internal GPS
>         > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth connectivity is on.
> I was
>         > getting   ?Connection error?   while using  internal receiver too.
>         >
>         > I had to reboote my device after this error  to work with internal
> receiver.
>         > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with internal
> receiver?.
>         >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
>         >
>         > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some light on above
> mentioned
>         > issues.
>         > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>         >
>         >
>         > With best regards.
>         > Sai.
>         > Mumbai, India.
>         > +91 9820 223489.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         _______________________________________________
>         Loadstone mailing list
>         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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From eeejiajiann at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 09:05:21 2010
From: eeejiajiann at gmail.com (eeejiajiann at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:05:21 +0000
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
Message-ID: <4c762126.9804cc0a.39d2.4aa9@mx.google.com>

It works but not sure if it's a hard reset. In fact the earlier method should only be used as last solution. Like you can't even get your phone to start.
Thanks.


CALEB EEE
(Using Nokia E52)


-----------------------------
From:	"Miranda" <miranda.ter.hofstede at gmail.com>
Subject:	Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
Date:		26th August 2010 3:53 PM

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can also do a hard
reset by pressing *#7370#
So this is star, hash, 7, 3, 7, 0, hash. Just press them after one another,
so no keys at the same time.

Or does this only work on the older Symbian phones?

Kind regards,
Miranda


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <eeejiajiann at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79


> Hi about the hard reset, i might be wrong here. From what i know you'll
> have to press all those button together, as in simultaneously and not
> holding 1 key while looking for another to press. Meaning you'll have to
> place your fingers on all keys and press at 1 go holding until you hear
> beep?
>
>
>
> CALEB EEE
> (Using Nokia E52)
>
>
> -----------------------------
> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
> Date: 26th August 2010 8:12 AM
>
> And to do a hard reset, turn-off the phone and press star, 3 and the
> call keys together. While holding them, press the power button and
> hold all of them until you hear the start-up tone. Make sure to
> back-up your contacts since everything on the phone memory will be
> washed out. Vetri.
>
> On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, mine having similar problem.  Never.  As I said before, as long as
>> blue
>> tooth on, even though not paired with anything, this connection error
>> will
>> happen.  Do what you may, uninstall, reinstall and so on on Load stone
>> but
>> it will not work.  The only way is to off the phone, then on back and off
>> blue tooth.
>>
>> 2 things which I have never tried yet though.  First is I have never
>> formatted the phone cause to many things to set back and since internal
>> is
>> working wonderfully.  Second is I have never tried pairing an external
>> blue
>> tooth.  For the curiosity of it, might just borrow a friend's phone and
>> try
>> it out.
>>
>> Si, What's your Firmware please?  And if you reformat phone, pls inform
>> to
>> see if it works.  Cause if it does work, I might give it a shot as well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> KITT.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: saidarshan bhagat
>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>
>>
>>       Hi,
>>
>>       Internal device is working fine but this external device goes fail.
>>        As informed, internal GPS also goes fail if  i switch on the
>> bluetooth.
>>       I have reinstalled the LS but problems remains same.
>>       I think Kitt has  also encountared the same issue with n79.
>>       Is there anybody else has faced this issue?Any directions to
>> connect
>> external device?
>>       Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>>
>>       With best regards.
>>       Sai.
>>       Mumbai,India.
>>       +91 9820 223489.
>>
>>
>>       --- On Wed, 25/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 6:24 PM
>>
>>
>>         Are you sure that it's not a hardware problem? Have you two
>> tested
>> out
>>         to see if the internal receiver is working with Nokia maps?
>> Vetri.
>>
>>         On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>         > Hi Si,
>>         >
>>         > If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having
>> similar problem
>>         > with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without having
>> it
>> paired to
>>         > anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and searching
>> around for
>>         > solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine
>> failed.
>> So, yours
>>         > is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>>         >
>>         > Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you manage
>> to
>> find any
>>         > solution.
>>         >
>>         > Thanks,
>>         > KITT.
>>         > ----- Original Message -----
>>         > From: saidarshan bhagat
>>         > To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
>>         > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with
>> n79
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >       Hi,
>>         >       Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already activated
>> all required
>>         > options under positioning.
>>         >       Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under
>> the
>> same
>>         > menue.
>>         >       Still facing the same issue.
>>         >       As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i
>> switch
>> on the
>>         > bluetooth while using LS.
>>         >       Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS
>> session with
>>         > LS?
>>         >       Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you
>> to
>> help me.
>>         >       Thanks.
>>         >
>>         >       With best regards.
>>         >       Sai.
>>         >       Mumbai,India
>>         >       +91 9820 223489.
>>         >
>>         >       --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>         > <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>         >         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS
>> receiver
>> with n79
>>         >         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         >         Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >         It looks like you have not enabled any of those under
>> positioning
>>         >         which can be found in settings on that model. When you
>> are
>> there,
>>         >         enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on
>> the
>> ls after
>>         >         this. Vetri.
>>         >
>>         >         On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat
>> <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>         >         > Dear Friends,
>>         >         >
>>         >         > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>>         >         > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my
>> nokia
>> n79.
>>         >         > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>>         >         >  I   couldn?t   connect my phone with this device, I
>> was
>> getting
>>         > connection
>>         >         > error.
>>         >         > As per the documentation I have also removed the
>> paring
>> of this
>>         > device but
>>         >         > it   didn?t   work.
>>         >         > In this test I observed one strange thing  regarding
>>         > loadstone,internal GPS
>>         >         > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth
>> connectivity is on.
>>         > I was
>>         >         > getting   ?Connection error?   while using  internal
>> receiver too.
>>         >         >
>>         >         > I had to reboote my device after this error  to work
>> with internal
>>         > receiver.
>>         >         > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with
>> internal
>>         > receiver?.
>>         >         >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
>>         >         >
>>         >         > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some light
>> on
>> above
>>         > mentioned
>>         >         > issues.
>>         >         > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>>         >         >
>>         >         >
>>         >         > With best regards.
>>         >         > Sai.
>>         >         > Mumbai, India.
>>         >         > +91 9820 223489.
>>         >         >
>>         >         >
>>         >         >
>>         >         _______________________________________________
>>         >         Loadstone mailing list
>>         >         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         >         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > _______________________________________________
>>         > Loadstone mailing list
>>         > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>         >
>>         _______________________________________________
>>         Loadstone mailing list
>>         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
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>>
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From sgiggar at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 26 10:40:47 2010
From: sgiggar at sbcglobal.net (Stephen Giggar)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 04:40:47 -0500
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com>
	<AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama>
Message-ID: <EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv>

That is correct the *#7370# does the same things as pressing and holding the 
Star, 3, Call and powers keys all at the same time. The latter option should 
never be used unless your phone doesn't startup.

What I would try is a software reset which doesn't wipe any personal data 
and only resets the phone options back to the defaults. To do that, do a 
*#7780# from the standby screen. Then the phone will ask are you for sure? 
Press SoftKey1 for YES. Then the phone will ask for the lock code. If you 
have not change that, it is 12345 followed by SoftKey1 for OK. The phone 
will then restart and all program setting will be back at there defaults and 
all of your personal data will be there as well.

Remember this is *#7780# and not *#7370#. The 7780 will retain all personal 
data and the 7370 will wipe all personal data.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Miranda" <miranda.ter.hofstede at gmail.com>
To: "General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program" 
<loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79


> Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can also do a 
> hard
> reset by pressing *#7370#
> So this is star, hash, 7, 3, 7, 0, hash. Just press them after one 
> another,
> so no keys at the same time.
>
> Or does this only work on the older Symbian phones?
>
> Kind regards,
> Miranda
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <eeejiajiann at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>
>
>> Hi about the hard reset, i might be wrong here. From what i know you'll
>> have to press all those button together, as in simultaneously and not
>> holding 1 key while looking for another to press. Meaning you'll have to
>> place your fingers on all keys and press at 1 go holding until you hear
>> beep?
>>
>>
>>
>> CALEB EEE
>> (Using Nokia E52)
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------
>> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>> Date: 26th August 2010 8:12 AM
>>
>> And to do a hard reset, turn-off the phone and press star, 3 and the
>> call keys together. While holding them, press the power button and
>> hold all of them until you hear the start-up tone. Make sure to
>> back-up your contacts since everything on the phone memory will be
>> washed out. Vetri.
>>
>> On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, mine having similar problem.  Never.  As I said before, as long as
>>> blue
>>> tooth on, even though not paired with anything, this connection error
>>> will
>>> happen.  Do what you may, uninstall, reinstall and so on on Load stone
>>> but
>>> it will not work.  The only way is to off the phone, then on back and 
>>> off
>>> blue tooth.
>>>
>>> 2 things which I have never tried yet though.  First is I have never
>>> formatted the phone cause to many things to set back and since internal
>>> is
>>> working wonderfully.  Second is I have never tried pairing an external
>>> blue
>>> tooth.  For the curiosity of it, might just borrow a friend's phone and
>>> try
>>> it out.
>>>
>>> Si, What's your Firmware please?  And if you reformat phone, pls inform
>>> to
>>> see if it works.  Cause if it does work, I might give it a shot as well.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> KITT.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: saidarshan bhagat
>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>>
>>>
>>>       Hi,
>>>
>>>       Internal device is working fine but this external device goes 
>>> fail.
>>>        As informed, internal GPS also goes fail if  i switch on the
>>> bluetooth.
>>>       I have reinstalled the LS but problems remains same.
>>>       I think Kitt has  also encountared the same issue with n79.
>>>       Is there anybody else has faced this issue?Any directions to
>>> connect
>>> external device?
>>>       Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>       With best regards.
>>>       Sai.
>>>       Mumbai,India.
>>>       +91 9820 223489.
>>>
>>>
>>>       --- On Wed, 25/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>>         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with 
>>> n79
>>>         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>         Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 6:24 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>         Are you sure that it's not a hardware problem? Have you two
>>> tested
>>> out
>>>         to see if the internal receiver is working with Nokia maps?
>>> Vetri.
>>>
>>>         On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>         > Hi Si,
>>>         >
>>>         > If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having
>>> similar problem
>>>         > with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without 
>>> having
>>> it
>>> paired to
>>>         > anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and searching
>>> around for
>>>         > solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine
>>> failed.
>>> So, yours
>>>         > is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>>>         >
>>>         > Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you 
>>> manage
>>> to
>>> find any
>>>         > solution.
>>>         >
>>>         > Thanks,
>>>         > KITT.
>>>         > ----- Original Message -----
>>>         > From: saidarshan bhagat
>>>         > To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>         > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
>>>         > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with
>>> n79
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >       Hi,
>>>         >       Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already 
>>> activated
>>> all required
>>>         > options under positioning.
>>>         >       Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under
>>> the
>>> same
>>>         > menue.
>>>         >       Still facing the same issue.
>>>         >       As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i
>>> switch
>>> on the
>>>         > bluetooth while using LS.
>>>         >       Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS
>>> session with
>>>         > LS?
>>>         >       Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of you
>>> to
>>> help me.
>>>         >       Thanks.
>>>         >
>>>         >       With best regards.
>>>         >       Sai.
>>>         >       Mumbai,India
>>>         >       +91 9820 223489.
>>>         >
>>>         >       --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>>         > <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>>         >         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS
>>> receiver
>>> with n79
>>>         >         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>         >         Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >         It looks like you have not enabled any of those under
>>> positioning
>>>         >         which can be found in settings on that model. When you
>>> are
>>> there,
>>>         >         enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on
>>> the
>>> ls after
>>>         >         this. Vetri.
>>>         >
>>>         >         On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat
>>> <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>>         >         > Dear Friends,
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>>>         >         > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my
>>> nokia
>>> n79.
>>>         >         > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>>>         >         >  I  couldn?t  connect my phone with this device, I
>>> was
>>> getting
>>>         > connection
>>>         >         > error.
>>>         >         > As per the documentation I have also removed the
>>> paring
>>> of this
>>>         > device but
>>>         >         > it  didn?t  work.
>>>         >         > In this test I observed one strange thing  regarding
>>>         > loadstone,internal GPS
>>>         >         > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth
>>> connectivity is on.
>>>         > I was
>>>         >         > getting  ?Connection error?  while using  internal
>>> receiver too.
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         > I had to reboote my device after this error  to work
>>> with internal
>>>         > receiver.
>>>         >         > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with
>>> internal
>>>         > receiver?.
>>>         >         >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some 
>>> light
>>> on
>>> above
>>>         > mentioned
>>>         >         > issues.
>>>         >         > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         > With best regards.
>>>         >         > Sai.
>>>         >         > Mumbai, India.
>>>         >         > +91 9820 223489.
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         _______________________________________________
>>>         >         Loadstone mailing list
>>>         >         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>         > 
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > _______________________________________________
>>>         > Loadstone mailing list
>>>         > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>         > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>         >
>>>         _______________________________________________
>>>         Loadstone mailing list
>>>         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From muktaketan at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 12:09:45 2010
From: muktaketan at gmail.com (Ketan Kothari)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:39:45 +0530
Subject: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama>
	<EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv>
Message-ID: <FB4B4F166AE44B4BA63A162118F42CB1@gateway669543a>

Dear Stephen,

I tried *#7780# and still continue to get the problem  The problem is that 
when I type the text message and I go to add recipients and select a person 
with multiple numbers followed by pressing key 1 I get options and nothing 
else.  Even if I press the option 1 key again, I still get options and 
nothing else.  I tried to back up all contacts onto memory card but they are 
not getting copied.  What do I do?  I have talks on memory card.  Please 
help.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgiggar at sbcglobal.net>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79


> That is correct the *#7370# does the same things as pressing and holding 
> the Star, 3, Call and powers keys all at the same time. The latter option 
> should never be used unless your phone doesn't startup.
>
> What I would try is a software reset which doesn't wipe any personal data 
> and only resets the phone options back to the defaults. To do that, do a 
> *#7780# from the standby screen. Then the phone will ask are you for sure? 
> Press SoftKey1 for YES. Then the phone will ask for the lock code. If you 
> have not change that, it is 12345 followed by SoftKey1 for OK. The phone 
> will then restart and all program setting will be back at there defaults 
> and all of your personal data will be there as well.
>
> Remember this is *#7780# and not *#7370#. The 7780 will retain all 
> personal data and the 7370 will wipe all personal data.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Miranda" <miranda.ter.hofstede at gmail.com>
> To: "General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program" 
> <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 2:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>
>
>> Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can also do a 
>> hard
>> reset by pressing *#7370#
>> So this is star, hash, 7, 3, 7, 0, hash. Just press them after one 
>> another,
>> so no keys at the same time.
>>
>> Or does this only work on the older Symbian phones?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Miranda
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <eeejiajiann at gmail.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>
>>
>>> Hi about the hard reset, i might be wrong here. From what i know you'll
>>> have to press all those button together, as in simultaneously and not
>>> holding 1 key while looking for another to press. Meaning you'll have to
>>> place your fingers on all keys and press at 1 go holding until you hear
>>> beep?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CALEB EEE
>>> (Using Nokia E52)
>>>
>>>
>>> -----------------------------
>>> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>> Date: 26th August 2010 8:12 AM
>>>
>>> And to do a hard reset, turn-off the phone and press star, 3 and the
>>> call keys together. While holding them, press the power button and
>>> hold all of them until you hear the start-up tone. Make sure to
>>> back-up your contacts since everything on the phone memory will be
>>> washed out. Vetri.
>>>
>>> On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes, mine having similar problem.  Never.  As I said before, as long as
>>>> blue
>>>> tooth on, even though not paired with anything, this connection error
>>>> will
>>>> happen.  Do what you may, uninstall, reinstall and so on on Load stone
>>>> but
>>>> it will not work.  The only way is to off the phone, then on back and 
>>>> off
>>>> blue tooth.
>>>>
>>>> 2 things which I have never tried yet though.  First is I have never
>>>> formatted the phone cause to many things to set back and since internal
>>>> is
>>>> working wonderfully.  Second is I have never tried pairing an external
>>>> blue
>>>> tooth.  For the curiosity of it, might just borrow a friend's phone and
>>>> try
>>>> it out.
>>>>
>>>> Si, What's your Firmware please?  And if you reformat phone, pls inform
>>>> to
>>>> see if it works.  Cause if it does work, I might give it a shot as 
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> KITT.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: saidarshan bhagat
>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       Hi,
>>>>
>>>>       Internal device is working fine but this external device goes 
>>>> fail.
>>>>        As informed, internal GPS also goes fail if  i switch on the
>>>> bluetooth.
>>>>       I have reinstalled the LS but problems remains same.
>>>>       I think Kitt has  also encountared the same issue with n79.
>>>>       Is there anybody else has faced this issue?Any directions to
>>>> connect
>>>> external device?
>>>>       Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>>       With best regards.
>>>>       Sai.
>>>>       Mumbai,India.
>>>>       +91 9820 223489.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       --- On Wed, 25/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>>> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>>>         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with 
>>>> n79
>>>>         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>         Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 6:24 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Are you sure that it's not a hardware problem? Have you two
>>>> tested
>>>> out
>>>>         to see if the internal receiver is working with Nokia maps?
>>>> Vetri.
>>>>
>>>>         On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>         > Hi Si,
>>>>         >
>>>>         > If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having
>>>> similar problem
>>>>         > with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without 
>>>> having
>>>> it
>>>> paired to
>>>>         > anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and 
>>>> searching
>>>> around for
>>>>         > solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine
>>>> failed.
>>>> So, yours
>>>>         > is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>>>>         >
>>>>         > Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you 
>>>> manage
>>>> to
>>>> find any
>>>>         > solution.
>>>>         >
>>>>         > Thanks,
>>>>         > KITT.
>>>>         > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>         > From: saidarshan bhagat
>>>>         > To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>         > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
>>>>         > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with
>>>> n79
>>>>         >
>>>>         >
>>>>         >       Hi,
>>>>         >       Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already 
>>>> activated
>>>> all required
>>>>         > options under positioning.
>>>>         >       Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under
>>>> the
>>>> same
>>>>         > menue.
>>>>         >       Still facing the same issue.
>>>>         >       As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i
>>>> switch
>>>> on the
>>>>         > bluetooth while using LS.
>>>>         >       Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS
>>>> session with
>>>>         > LS?
>>>>         >       Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of 
>>>> you
>>>> to
>>>> help me.
>>>>         >       Thanks.
>>>>         >
>>>>         >       With best regards.
>>>>         >       Sai.
>>>>         >       Mumbai,India
>>>>         >       +91 9820 223489.
>>>>         >
>>>>         >       --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>>>         > <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>         >
>>>>         >
>>>>         >         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>>> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>>>         >         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS
>>>> receiver
>>>> with n79
>>>>         >         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>         >         Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>>>>         >
>>>>         >
>>>>         >         It looks like you have not enabled any of those under
>>>> positioning
>>>>         >         which can be found in settings on that model. When 
>>>> you
>>>> are
>>>> there,
>>>>         >         enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on
>>>> the
>>>> ls after
>>>>         >         this. Vetri.
>>>>         >
>>>>         >         On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat
>>>> <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>>>         >         > Dear Friends,
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>>>>         >         > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my
>>>> nokia
>>>> n79.
>>>>         >         > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>>>>         >         >  I  couldn?t  connect my phone with this device, I
>>>> was
>>>> getting
>>>>         > connection
>>>>         >         > error.
>>>>         >         > As per the documentation I have also removed the
>>>> paring
>>>> of this
>>>>         > device but
>>>>         >         > it  didn?t  work.
>>>>         >         > In this test I observed one strange thing 
>>>> regarding
>>>>         > loadstone,internal GPS
>>>>         >         > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth
>>>> connectivity is on.
>>>>         > I was
>>>>         >         > getting  ?Connection error?  while using  internal
>>>> receiver too.
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > I had to reboote my device after this error  to 
>>>> work
>>>> with internal
>>>>         > receiver.
>>>>         >         > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with
>>>> internal
>>>>         > receiver?.
>>>>         >         >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some 
>>>> light
>>>> on
>>>> above
>>>>         > mentioned
>>>>         >         > issues.
>>>>         >         > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         > With best regards.
>>>>         >         > Sai.
>>>>         >         > Mumbai, India.
>>>>         >         > +91 9820 223489.
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         >
>>>>         >         _______________________________________________
>>>>         >         Loadstone mailing list
>>>>         >         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>         > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>         >
>>>>         >
>>>>         >
>>>>         >
>>>>         >
>>>>         >
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>         >
>>>>         >
>>>>         > _______________________________________________
>>>>         > Loadstone mailing list
>>>>         > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>         > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>         >
>>>>         _______________________________________________
>>>>         Loadstone mailing list
>>>>         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
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>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Loadstone mailing list
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>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From prasad.modu at gmail.com  Fri Aug 27 10:33:06 2010
From: prasad.modu at gmail.com (siva prasad)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:03:06 +0530
Subject: [Loadstone] formatting
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=9-Y=9xyDNf2g6GZWbEJigVhPXzabbazNCmTop@mail.gmail.com>

Hai Ketan sir, for formatting the mobile as our friends suggested
*#7370# or else you can go to tools, settings, phone, general and
select orig settings for restoring phone original settings, both are
the same  if *#7370# doesnt work you can try this. please correct me
if I am wrong.

On 8/26/10, Ketan Kothari <muktaketan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Stephen,
>
> I tried *#7780# and still continue to get the problem  The problem is that
> when I type the text message and I go to add recipients and select a person
> with multiple numbers followed by pressing key 1 I get options and nothing
> else.  Even if I press the option 1 key again, I still get options and
> nothing else.  I tried to back up all contacts onto memory card but they are
> not getting copied.  What do I do?  I have talks on memory card.  Please
> help.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgiggar at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>
>
>> That is correct the *#7370# does the same things as pressing and holding
>> the Star, 3, Call and powers keys all at the same time. The latter option
>> should never be used unless your phone doesn't startup.
>>
>> What I would try is a software reset which doesn't wipe any personal data
>> and only resets the phone options back to the defaults. To do that, do a
>> *#7780# from the standby screen. Then the phone will ask are you for sure?
>>
>> Press SoftKey1 for YES. Then the phone will ask for the lock code. If you
>> have not change that, it is 12345 followed by SoftKey1 for OK. The phone
>> will then restart and all program setting will be back at there defaults
>> and all of your personal data will be there as well.
>>
>> Remember this is *#7780# and not *#7370#. The 7780 will retain all
>> personal data and the 7370 will wipe all personal data.
>>
>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>
>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Miranda" <miranda.ter.hofstede at gmail.com>
>> To: "General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program"
>> <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 2:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>
>>
>>> Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can also do a
>>> hard
>>> reset by pressing *#7370#
>>> So this is star, hash, 7, 3, 7, 0, hash. Just press them after one
>>> another,
>>> so no keys at the same time.
>>>
>>> Or does this only work on the older Symbian phones?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Miranda
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <eeejiajiann at gmail.com>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi about the hard reset, i might be wrong here. From what i know you'll
>>>> have to press all those button together, as in simultaneously and not
>>>> holding 1 key while looking for another to press. Meaning you'll have to
>>>> place your fingers on all keys and press at 1 go holding until you hear
>>>> beep?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CALEB EEE
>>>> (Using Nokia E52)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------
>>>> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>>> Date: 26th August 2010 8:12 AM
>>>>
>>>> And to do a hard reset, turn-off the phone and press star, 3 and the
>>>> call keys together. While holding them, press the power button and
>>>> hold all of them until you hear the start-up tone. Make sure to
>>>> back-up your contacts since everything on the phone memory will be
>>>> washed out. Vetri.
>>>>
>>>> On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Yes, mine having similar problem.  Never.  As I said before, as long as
>>>>> blue
>>>>> tooth on, even though not paired with anything, this connection error
>>>>> will
>>>>> happen.  Do what you may, uninstall, reinstall and so on on Load stone
>>>>> but
>>>>> it will not work.  The only way is to off the phone, then on back and
>>>>> off
>>>>> blue tooth.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 things which I have never tried yet though.  First is I have never
>>>>> formatted the phone cause to many things to set back and since internal
>>>>> is
>>>>> working wonderfully.  Second is I have never tried pairing an external
>>>>> blue
>>>>> tooth.  For the curiosity of it, might just borrow a friend's phone and
>>>>> try
>>>>> it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Si, What's your Firmware please?  And if you reformat phone, pls inform
>>>>> to
>>>>> see if it works.  Cause if it does work, I might give it a shot as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> KITT.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: saidarshan bhagat
>>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:09 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with n79
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>       Internal device is working fine but this external device goes
>>>>> fail.
>>>>>        As informed, internal GPS also goes fail if  i switch on the
>>>>> bluetooth.
>>>>>       I have reinstalled the LS but problems remains same.
>>>>>       I think Kitt has  also encountared the same issue with n79.
>>>>>       Is there anybody else has faced this issue?Any directions to
>>>>> connect
>>>>> external device?
>>>>>       Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>>       With best regards.
>>>>>       Sai.
>>>>>       Mumbai,India.
>>>>>       +91 9820 223489.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       --- On Wed, 25/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>>>> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>>>>         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with
>>>>> n79
>>>>>         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>         Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 6:24 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Are you sure that it's not a hardware problem? Have you two
>>>>> tested
>>>>> out
>>>>>         to see if the internal receiver is working with Nokia maps?
>>>>> Vetri.
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 25/08/2010, Kit <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>         > Hi Si,
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > If you facing the error if blue tooth is on, then you having
>>>>> similar problem
>>>>>         > with my N79.  As long as Blue tooth is on,, even without
>>>>> having
>>>>> it
>>>>> paired to
>>>>>         > anything, it will have error.  So, after looking and
>>>>> searching
>>>>> around for
>>>>>         > solution while all other N79 users  are working ok, mine
>>>>> failed.
>>>>> So, yours
>>>>>         > is the 2nd N79 which I heard of this.
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > Pls do keep this group up to date with the method if you
>>>>> manage
>>>>> to
>>>>> find any
>>>>>         > solution.
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > Thanks,
>>>>>         > KITT.
>>>>>         > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>         > From: saidarshan bhagat
>>>>>         > To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>         > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:48 AM
>>>>>         > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS receiver with
>>>>> n79
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >       Hi,
>>>>>         >       Thanks for your suggestion , But i have already
>>>>> activated
>>>>> all required
>>>>>         > options under positioning.
>>>>>         >       Presently Bluetooth,A GPS,Internal GPS are active under
>>>>> the
>>>>> same
>>>>>         > menue.
>>>>>         >       Still facing the same issue.
>>>>>         >       As informed earlier, Internal GPS also goes fail if i
>>>>> switch
>>>>> on the
>>>>>         > bluetooth while using LS.
>>>>>         >       Anybody has tried using  bluetooth during internal GPS
>>>>> session with
>>>>>         > LS?
>>>>>         >       Still my query remains unansered , Requesting all of
>>>>> you
>>>>> to
>>>>> help me.
>>>>>         >       Thanks.
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >       With best regards.
>>>>>         >       Sai.
>>>>>         >       Mumbai,India
>>>>>         >       +91 9820 223489.
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >       --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>>>>         > <vadhimoolam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >         From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>>>> <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>>>>         >         Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Query on bluetooth GPS
>>>>> receiver
>>>>> with n79
>>>>>         >         To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>         >         Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 11:40 PM
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >         It looks like you have not enabled any of those under
>>>>> positioning
>>>>>         >         which can be found in settings on that model. When
>>>>> you
>>>>> are
>>>>> there,
>>>>>         >         enable blutooth and integrated gps. Try connecting on
>>>>> the
>>>>> ls after
>>>>>         >         this. Vetri.
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >         On 22/08/2010, saidarshan bhagat
>>>>> <saidarshan786 at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>>>>         >         > Dear Friends,
>>>>>         >         >
>>>>>         >         > Here I am back with new query regarding loadstone.
>>>>>         >         > I got to test the Bluetooth GPS receiver with my
>>>>> nokia
>>>>> n79.
>>>>>         >         > Unfortunately I was fail in this testing.
>>>>>         >         >  I  couldn?t  connect my phone with this device, I
>>>>> was
>>>>> getting
>>>>>         > connection
>>>>>         >         > error.
>>>>>         >         > As per the documentation I have also removed the
>>>>> paring
>>>>> of this
>>>>>         > device but
>>>>>         >         > it  didn?t  work.
>>>>>         >         > In this test I observed one strange thing
>>>>> regarding
>>>>>         > loadstone,internal GPS
>>>>>         >         > receiver is also goes fail  if  the Bluetooth
>>>>> connectivity is on.
>>>>>         > I was
>>>>>         >         > getting  ?Connection error?  while using  internal
>>>>> receiver too.
>>>>>         >         >
>>>>>         >         > I had to reboote my device after this error  to
>>>>> work
>>>>> with internal
>>>>>         > receiver.
>>>>>         >         > We cant use Bluetooth while using loadstone with
>>>>> internal
>>>>>         > receiver?.
>>>>>         >         >  anybody has  encountered same issue in N79?
>>>>>         >         >
>>>>>         >         > Requesting all my expert  friends to throw some
>>>>> light
>>>>> on
>>>>> above
>>>>>         > mentioned
>>>>>         >         > issues.
>>>>>         >         > Waiting for your inputs, Thanks in advance.
>>>>>         >         >
>>>>>         >         >
>>>>>         >         > With best regards.
>>>>>         >         > Sai.
>>>>>         >         > Mumbai, India.
>>>>>         >         > +91 9820 223489.
>>>>>         >         >
>>>>>         >         >
>>>>>         >         >
>>>>>         >         _______________________________________________
>>>>>         >         Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>         >         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>         > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > _______________________________________________
>>>>>         > Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>         > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>         > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         _______________________________________________
>>>>>         Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>         Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>         http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Loadstone mailing list
>>>>> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Loadstone mailing list
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>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
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>>
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From pbs at paulshelton.com  Fri Aug 27 21:50:22 2010
From: pbs at paulshelton.com (Paul Shelton)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:50:22 -0500
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama>
	<EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv>
Message-ID: <6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton>

    Hello,

A friend just installed Loadstone on an N86 and gets the "no signal" 
response when using the internal GPS.  This sounds as though Loadstone is 
recognizing the GPS but not picking up any satellites.  Is there anything 
special that needs to be configured on this model? 



From seanr at randylaptop.com  Fri Aug 27 22:14:55 2010
From: seanr at randylaptop.com (Sean Randall)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 22:14:55 +0100
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86
In-Reply-To: <6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton>
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama><EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv>
	<6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton>
Message-ID: <9EE8E10593CC4768B392447810C49F2C@srasus>

Paul,

I remember reading that for some models, you have to activate the GPS by
using a built-in program first.  For instance, load the landmarks or phone's
other gps software first, which seems to wake up the receiver.

This is certainly a requirement on my partner's N78.  On my 6120, on the
other hand, I get a signal within 5 seconds outdoors and always within about
30 inside, with an accuracy of about 30 feet, on average, without doing
anything special. 

Sean.

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Paul Shelton
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010. 09:50 PM
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86

    Hello,

A friend just installed Loadstone on an N86 and gets the "no signal" 
response when using the internal GPS.  This sounds as though Loadstone is 
recognizing the GPS but not picking up any satellites.  Is there anything 
special that needs to be configured on this model? 


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From pbs at paulshelton.com  Fri Aug 27 22:37:29 2010
From: pbs at paulshelton.com (Paul Shelton)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:37:29 -0500
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama><EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv><6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton>
	<9EE8E10593CC4768B392447810C49F2C@srasus>
Message-ID: <794C0727A35343C8990F94AA9CD97A33@paulshelton>

Thanks Sean, I'll have him try that.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Randall" <seanr at randylaptop.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86


Paul,

I remember reading that for some models, you have to activate the GPS by
using a built-in program first.  For instance, load the landmarks or phone's
other gps software first, which seems to wake up the receiver.

This is certainly a requirement on my partner's N78.  On my 6120, on the
other hand, I get a signal within 5 seconds outdoors and always within about
30 inside, with an accuracy of about 30 feet, on average, without doing
anything special.

Sean.

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Paul Shelton
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010. 09:50 PM
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86

    Hello,

A friend just installed Loadstone on an N86 and gets the "no signal"
response when using the internal GPS.  This sounds as though Loadstone is
recognizing the GPS but not picking up any satellites.  Is there anything
special that needs to be configured on this model?


_______________________________________________
Loadstone mailing list
Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone

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From pbs at paulshelton.com  Fri Aug 27 22:41:42 2010
From: pbs at paulshelton.com (Paul Shelton)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:41:42 -0500
Subject: [Loadstone] Updating a point name
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama><EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv><6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton>
	<9EE8E10593CC4768B392447810C49F2C@srasus>
Message-ID: <5530B6CAAB814A22BF195975AF5E9A7C@paulshelton>

Is it possible to update a point name without updating it's coordinates?  I 
feel like I have been able to do this in the past but I am now running 
version 0.74 and it always seems to update the position whether I pick, 
update, from commencement, or current position.

I frequently put in a short name for a point of interest with the idea that 
I will make a better name when I get home.  Can anyone help with this?

Paul



From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 27 23:16:13 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:16:13 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama><EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv>
	<6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton>
Message-ID: <00a501cb4635$7ba36d30$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>

Hi Paul,

Nothing special to configure.

But pls do this if you want a faster connection.  Go to GPS menu in LS and select Find GPS.  For the first time you need to get connected, select Assisted GPS instead of Integrated GPS.  With A.GPS, you should get signal very fast if all your phone setting is properly set.  This will be charge which data is  about 7 to 10 kb.  If you have default GPS set, then select Disconnected first and then go into the menu again to select A.GPS.

After getting a signal, then go into GPS menu again and disconnect A.GPS.  After which you go into GPS and Find GPS and now select Integrated GPS.  Now, you should be getting signal with no problem and it's free.

Pls remember, A.GPS is charged.

As for phone setting, go to General setting and find for Positioning.  Under positioning, find for positioning Method.  Enable Assisted and also Integrated GPS.

If even with A.GPS in LS and you still cannot get connection, then go to Phone setting, under positioning then positioning server.  Make sure the access is set to a network which you are using.  

secondly, make sure that your server is right.  It should be 

supl.nokia.com

Thirdly,  set network to Always Ask cause as default its set to auto.  If you set to always ask, every time you going to use A.GPS, you will get a prompt.

All the best!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul Shelton 
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:50 AM
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86


    Hello,

A friend just installed Loadstone on an N86 and gets the "no signal" 
response when using the internal GPS.  This sounds as though Loadstone is 
recognizing the GPS but not picking up any satellites.  Is there anything 
special that needs to be configured on this model? 


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From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 28 03:18:54 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:18:54 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama><EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv><6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton><9EE8E10593CC4768B392447810C49F2C@srasus>
	<794C0727A35343C8990F94AA9CD97A33@paulshelton>
Message-ID: <009401cb4657$69081eb0$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>

Hi Paul,

Seems you never read my posting earlier?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul Shelton 
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86


Thanks Sean, I'll have him try that.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Randall" <seanr at randylaptop.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86


Paul,

I remember reading that for some models, you have to activate the GPS by
using a built-in program first.  For instance, load the landmarks or phone's
other gps software first, which seems to wake up the receiver.

This is certainly a requirement on my partner's N78.  On my 6120, on the
other hand, I get a signal within 5 seconds outdoors and always within about
30 inside, with an accuracy of about 30 feet, on average, without doing
anything special.

Sean.

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Paul Shelton
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010. 09:50 PM
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86

    Hello,

A friend just installed Loadstone on an N86 and gets the "no signal"
response when using the internal GPS.  This sounds as though Loadstone is
recognizing the GPS but not picking up any satellites.  Is there anything
special that needs to be configured on this model?


_______________________________________________
Loadstone mailing list
Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone

_______________________________________________
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Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone


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From kerry at gotss.net  Sat Aug 28 06:29:33 2010
From: kerry at gotss.net (Kerry Hoath)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:29:33 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86
In-Reply-To: <6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton>
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama>	<EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv>
	<6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton>
Message-ID: <4C789EBD.4080200@gotss.net>


No, the initial fix can take 3-5 minutes but it does work.
If you set gps to assisted things go faster but person needs data plan 
to do that
On 28/08/2010 4:50 AM, Paul Shelton wrote:
>      Hello,
>
> A friend just installed Loadstone on an N86 and gets the "no signal"
> response when using the internal GPS.  This sounds as though Loadstone is
> recognizing the GPS but not picking up any satellites.  Is there anything
> special that needs to be configured on this model?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>    

From bardiazakeri at gmail.com  Sat Aug 28 09:19:16 2010
From: bardiazakeri at gmail.com (Bardia zakeri)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:19:16 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86
In-Reply-To: <00a501cb4635$7ba36d30$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama><EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv>	<6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton>
	<00a501cb4635$7ba36d30$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>
Message-ID: <4C78C684.60805@gmail.com>

  Kit skrev 2010-08-28 00:16:
> Hi Paul,
> Nothing special to configure.
> But pls do this if you want a faster connection.  Go to GPS menu in LS 
> and select Find GPS.  For the first time you need to get connected, 
> select Assisted GPS instead of Integrated GPS.  With A.GPS, you should 
> get signal very fast if all your phone setting is properly set.  This 
> will be charge which data is  about 7 to 10 kb.  If you have default 
> GPS set, then select Disconnected first and then go into the menu 
> again to select A.GPS.
> After getting a signal, then go into GPS menu again and disconnect 
> A.GPS.  After which you go into GPS and Find GPS and now select 
> Integrated GPS.  Now, you should be getting signal with no problem and 
> it's free.
> Pls remember, A.GPS is charged.
> As for phone setting, go to General setting and find for Positioning.  
> Under positioning, find for positioning Method.  Enable Assisted and 
> also Integrated GPS.
> If even with A.GPS in LS and you still cannot get connection, then go 
> to Phone setting, under positioning then positioning server.  Make 
> sure the access is set to a network which you are using.
> secondly, make sure that your server is right.  It should be
> supl.nokia.com
> Thirdly,  set network to Always Ask cause as default its set to auto.  
> If you set to always ask, every time you going to use A.GPS, you will 
> get a prompt.
> All the best!
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Paul Shelton <mailto:pbs at paulshelton.com>
> *To:* loadstone at loadstone-gps.com <mailto:loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:50 AM
> *Subject:* [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86
>
>     Hello,
>
> A friend just installed Loadstone on an N86 and gets the "no signal"
> response when using the internal GPS.  This sounds as though Loadstone is
> recognizing the GPS but not picking up any satellites.  Is there anything
> special that needs to be configured on this model?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com <mailto:Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Loadstone mailing list
> Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
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From pbs at paulshelton.com  Sat Aug 28 10:54:19 2010
From: pbs at paulshelton.com (Paul Shelton)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:54:19 -0500
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone with N86
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama><EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv>	<6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton><00a501cb4635$7ba36d30$0201a8c0@user82580b1a3e>
	<4C78C684.60805@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2752485F8AE04CDEAEFFFBCF1E573DB0@paulshelton>

Thanks everyone for this helpful info.  I will pass all of this along to my 
friend and see if we can get it working.

Paul



From seanr at randylaptop.com  Sat Aug 28 11:11:13 2010
From: seanr at randylaptop.com (Sean Randall)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:11:13 +0100
Subject: [Loadstone] Updating a point name
In-Reply-To: <5530B6CAAB814A22BF195975AF5E9A7C@paulshelton>
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama><EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv><6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton><9EE8E10593CC4768B392447810C49F2C@srasus>
	<5530B6CAAB814A22BF195975AF5E9A7C@paulshelton>
Message-ID: <91F948E52A104EB3AA3377F7BFE3959A@srasus>

Paul,

When updating from a current point in exploration mode, you can edit the
name, lat and long and the options menu then has from commencement, current,
or just 'update' which seems to retain the values in the boxes, as you'd
expect.

Hope that helps,

Sean. 

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Paul Shelton
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010. 10:42 PM
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: [Loadstone] Updating a point name

Is it possible to update a point name without updating it's coordinates?  I 
feel like I have been able to do this in the past but I am now running 
version 0.74 and it always seems to update the position whether I pick, 
update, from commencement, or current position.

I frequently put in a short name for a point of interest with the idea that 
I will make a better name when I get home.  Can anyone help with this?

Paul


_______________________________________________
Loadstone mailing list
Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone


From jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com  Sat Aug 28 18:40:30 2010
From: jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com (Jeff Kenyon)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:40:30 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] what's the latest with Groute and has anyone tried the
	new GPS ap from Nokia?
Message-ID: <B1AAAB2E80454AE18F8EEBF04D9EF6C0@JeffsPC>

Hi everyone, I am just wondering what has been the latest with Groute?  I just went up there a minute ago and it was still all in Polish.  Also, has anyone tried the new GPS program that was posted on here a week or so ago from Nokia?
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From arnthor.helgason at simnet.is  Sun Aug 29 12:17:56 2010
From: arnthor.helgason at simnet.is (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Arn=FE=F3r_Helgason?=)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:17:56 -0000
Subject: [Loadstone] Loadstone an Nokia 6710 Navibator
References: <mailman.1.1283079602.26774.loadstone@loadstone-gps.com>
Message-ID: <ACBB63E0ECC744E48CF65BBCAD8FCEDC@HP49A4512CEAE7>

Good morning. I am a new member to this list.

I wonder if Loadston will work with Nokia 6710 Navigator. I do not see this 
phone on the list of accessible phones.

The Navigator has a built-in GPS navigation system. Would that work?

I would be interested in learning more about the Nokia software mentioned in 
recent post. I myself have been testing the OVI maps and they work fine when 
navigating along the roads, but the pedestrian part does not speak. At least 
for those who use Mobilespeak the accessability has some limitations.

Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason


From kerry at gotss.net  Mon Aug 30 05:38:09 2010
From: kerry at gotss.net (Kerry Hoath)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:38:09 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] what's the latest with Groute and has anyone tried
 the	new GPS ap from Nokia?
In-Reply-To: <B1AAAB2E80454AE18F8EEBF04D9EF6C0@JeffsPC>
References: <B1AAAB2E80454AE18F8EEBF04D9EF6C0@JeffsPC>
Message-ID: <4C7B35B1.3090205@gotss.net>


A version of groute has been integrated into the latest offline tools 
archive.

Please see list archives for details.
Obviously the offline tools need an internet connection to use groute.
regards, Kerry.

On 29/08/2010 1:40 AM, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
> Hi everyone, I am just wondering what has been the latest with Groute?
> I just went up there a minute ago and it was still all in Polish. Also,
> has anyone tried the new GPS program that was posted on here a week or
> so ago from Nokia?
>
>
>
>
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From d.griffith at btinternet.com  Mon Aug 30 09:20:18 2010
From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:20:18 +0100
Subject: [Loadstone] Nokia Suite or PC Suite?
Message-ID: <0A8933B56CCF45CA9B6498D42CA5B022@6ffd52c138504d6>

Dear List 

I should be receiving my Nokia N 86 tomorrow. And intend to install
Lodestone immediately after talks install.

Checking the Nokia web site for documentation and software it appears that
they are recommending using the new Nokia Suite rather than PC suite.

Which application would you recommend I  use for installing the Lodestone?
Often I know it is better from the accessibility point of view to use older
applications I find.

On the PC I am using XP Pro and Jaws 11.


Regards


David Griffith
 

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From goldeneagle74 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 30 10:19:15 2010
From: goldeneagle74 at gmail.com (Kit)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:19:15 +0800
Subject: [Loadstone] Nokia Suite or PC Suite?
References: <0A8933B56CCF45CA9B6498D42CA5B022@6ffd52c138504d6>
Message-ID: <E8910118C5114037B7BBBFBC23BD5DD9@ambankgroup.ahb.com>

Hi David,

If you already have pc suite installed on your pc, no bother for others. 
Just try out one of these 2.

1.  Plug phone to pc through USB cable.  Select PC suite mode when prompt on 
phone.  Once it's hooked up properly, click on this file in your pc and you 
will get prompt whether to install this program.  Click Yes from pc and then 
all in on your phone now, go through it step by step.

2.   if you don't want to use PC suite at all, then simpler.  Connect using 
USB cable but for this time, select to connect using Mess storage on your 
phone when prompt..  Copy the LoadStone installation file into your memory 
card or mess memory in N86.  Then use your phone and locate for File Manager 
and open up which location you have copied the file.  Just run it to 
install.

The above 2 steps could be applied to all .sis installations and not only 
LoadStone.  The first time you connect your phone will take longer time to 
be detected by windows when it installs necessary drivers so be patient. 
However, if 2nd times onwards, it should get detected quite fast and you can 
straight access the phone.

Regards,
KITT.s


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:20 PM
Subject: [Loadstone] Nokia Suite or PC Suite?


Dear List

I should be receiving my Nokia N 86 tomorrow. And intend to install
Lodestone immediately after talks install.

Checking the Nokia web site for documentation and software it appears that
they are recommending using the new Nokia Suite rather than PC suite.

Which application would you recommend I  use for installing the Lodestone?
Often I know it is better from the accessibility point of view to use older
applications I find.

On the PC I am using XP Pro and Jaws 11.


Regards


David Griffith


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database 5407 (20100829) __________

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From sgiggar at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug 30 10:31:38 2010
From: sgiggar at sbcglobal.net (Stephen Giggar)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 04:31:38 -0500
Subject: [Loadstone] Nokia Suite or PC Suite?
References: <0A8933B56CCF45CA9B6498D42CA5B022@6ffd52c138504d6>
	<E8910118C5114037B7BBBFBC23BD5DD9@ambankgroup.ahb.com>
Message-ID: <FD28C134EE2543DC8A663EEA3A731E70@steves74v2hjfv>

Install PC Suite, then install the Nokia Software updater. This will insure 
that you have the latest drivers for your phone on your PC.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kit" <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Nokia Suite or PC Suite?


> Hi David,
>
> If you already have pc suite installed on your pc, no bother for others.
> Just try out one of these 2.
>
> 1.  Plug phone to pc through USB cable.  Select PC suite mode when prompt 
> on
> phone.  Once it's hooked up properly, click on this file in your pc and 
> you
> will get prompt whether to install this program.  Click Yes from pc and 
> then
> all in on your phone now, go through it step by step.
>
> 2.   if you don't want to use PC suite at all, then simpler.  Connect 
> using
> USB cable but for this time, select to connect using Mess storage on your
> phone when prompt..  Copy the LoadStone installation file into your memory
> card or mess memory in N86.  Then use your phone and locate for File 
> Manager
> and open up which location you have copied the file.  Just run it to
> install.
>
> The above 2 steps could be applied to all .sis installations and not only
> LoadStone.  The first time you connect your phone will take longer time to
> be detected by windows when it installs necessary drivers so be patient.
> However, if 2nd times onwards, it should get detected quite fast and you 
> can
> straight access the phone.
>
> Regards,
> KITT.s
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Griffith" <d.griffith at btinternet.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:20 PM
> Subject: [Loadstone] Nokia Suite or PC Suite?
>
>
> Dear List
>
> I should be receiving my Nokia N 86 tomorrow. And intend to install
> Lodestone immediately after talks install.
>
> Checking the Nokia web site for documentation and software it appears that
> they are recommending using the new Nokia Suite rather than PC suite.
>
> Which application would you recommend I  use for installing the Lodestone?
> Often I know it is better from the accessibility point of view to use 
> older
> applications I find.
>
> On the PC I am using XP Pro and Jaws 11.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> David Griffith
>
>
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> database 5407 (20100829) __________
>
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From jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com  Mon Aug 30 12:08:53 2010
From: jkenyon7 at rochester.rr.com (Jeff Kenyon)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:08:53 -0400
Subject: [Loadstone] what's the latest with Groute and has anyone tried
	the	new GPS ap from Nokia?
In-Reply-To: <4C7B35B1.3090205@gotss.net>
References: <B1AAAB2E80454AE18F8EEBF04D9EF6C0@JeffsPC>
	<4C7B35B1.3090205@gotss.net>
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I'll look later thanks,
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] what's the latest with Groute and has anyone tried 
the new GPS ap from Nokia?


>
> A version of groute has been integrated into the latest offline tools
> archive.
>
> Please see list archives for details.
> Obviously the offline tools need an internet connection to use groute.
> regards, Kerry.
>
> On 29/08/2010 1:40 AM, Jeff Kenyon wrote:
>> Hi everyone, I am just wondering what has been the latest with Groute?
>> I just went up there a minute ago and it was still all in Polish. Also,
>> has anyone tried the new GPS program that was posted on here a week or
>> so ago from Nokia?
>>
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From pbs at paulshelton.com  Mon Aug 30 15:12:47 2010
From: pbs at paulshelton.com (Paul Shelton)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:12:47 -0500
Subject: [Loadstone] Updating a point name
References: <4c7614ab.1001df0a.5697.7481@mx.google.com><AC988CCFA0B24D5D9D7B75E6C128E013@salama><EFD221EFF4324F5F93D477D0FDAC2AFA@steves74v2hjfv><6A67A64FBF38477BB31BB23C74721AFF@paulshelton><9EE8E10593CC4768B392447810C49F2C@srasus><5530B6CAAB814A22BF195975AF5E9A7C@paulshelton>
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Message-ID: <0CFE12F184C742B581AEFBEC33FEE318@paulshelton>

Thanks Sean.  I thought I had tried the update option and that it hadn't 
worked but I must have already changed the position of the point when I 
tried it.  Update is working correctly.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Randall" <seanr at randylaptop.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Updating a point name


Paul,

When updating from a current point in exploration mode, you can edit the
name, lat and long and the options menu then has from commencement, current,
or just 'update' which seems to retain the values in the boxes, as you'd
expect.

Hope that helps,

Sean.

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Paul Shelton
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010. 10:42 PM
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: [Loadstone] Updating a point name

Is it possible to update a point name without updating it's coordinates?  I
feel like I have been able to do this in the past but I am now running
version 0.74 and it always seems to update the position whether I pick,
update, from commencement, or current position.

I frequently put in a short name for a point of interest with the idea that
I will make a better name when I get home.  Can anyone help with this?

Paul


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From wendorff at uni-paderborn.de  Tue Aug 31 15:28:33 2010
From: wendorff at uni-paderborn.de (Peter Wendorff)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:28:33 +0200
Subject: [Loadstone] Format and use of checkpoint files
Message-ID: <4C7D1191.2040604@uni-paderborn.de>

  Hi.
I try to completely understand the format description for waypoint files.
The describing file in the source code package doesn't say anything 
about usage and length restriction of the comment field.

Let me ask two simple questions:

1) Where the comment is used? When is it displayed/read during loadstone 
usage?
2) What's the maximum length of the description?

regards
Peter Wendorff

From seanr at randylaptop.com  Tue Aug 31 15:46:48 2010
From: seanr at randylaptop.com (Sean Randall)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:46:48 +0100
Subject: [Loadstone] Format and use of checkpoint files
In-Reply-To: <4C7D1191.2040604@uni-paderborn.de>
References: <4C7D1191.2040604@uni-paderborn.de>
Message-ID: <75FECDF412F14AF4A16FF0430E4E54AC@srasus>

Peter,

According to the "menu and key reference" of the Loadstone-GPS docs, a
comment's maximum length is 75 characters.  There's a setting  to
automatically announce comments off, on approach, on arrival or both, and a
key (Long 5 in navigation and long star in exploration) to announce the
comment of a point.
Hope that's helpful,
Sean.
-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Peter Wendorff
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010. 03:29 PM
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: [Loadstone] Format and use of checkpoint files

  Hi.
I try to completely understand the format description for waypoint files.
The describing file in the source code package doesn't say anything 
about usage and length restriction of the comment field.

Let me ask two simple questions:

1) Where the comment is used? When is it displayed/read during loadstone 
usage?
2) What's the maximum length of the description?

regards
Peter Wendorff
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