[Loadstone] No 'talking map'.

Steve S steve at crustysocks.com
Tue Sep 22 21:41:59 BST 2009


Monty that makes a lot of sense, thanks for explaining that, cheers Steve.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <monty at loadstone-gps.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] No 'talking map'.


> Hi David and Steve,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion and don't worry it was taken inn a posative way 
> which is what I try and do much of the time unless things are completely 
> rediculous!
>
> I think having Loadstone announce a point (probably the nearest point) 
> every given time interval  (let's say 30 seconds) could be useful, 
> consider the following...
>
> You are using a medium powered phone with a rather large database, you 
> have your search radius set to 20000 KM and you are 10000KM away from 
> home.  (OK maybe not a typical situation but go with me on this)
>
> Every 30 seconds Loadstone attempts to similate pressing the "select" key 
> to determine the nearest point to the current location.  Keep in mind when 
> Loadstone executes a "find nearest point" function, no other functions are 
> allowed to operate.  In other words, Symbian can only focus on the search 
> for the nearest point task until it is completed.  So, while it is taking 
> several seconds to locate the nearest point which is 10000KM away nothing 
> else in Loadstone (and possibly other phone appplications) work.  It could 
> even take 30 seconds or beyond to work out where your nearest point is 
> then it would just trigger again basically making Loadstone useless.
>
> So yeah, suggestions are good, this one is good, but once again Symbian 
> lets us down!
>
> Monty
>
>
>  On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, David Reynolds wrote:
>
>> Perhaps a better way to go would be to have your position spoken every
>> thirty seconds. I have a series of checkpoints, and rather than keep
>> pressing a button, I'd rather hear something like:
>> Point A is 50 yards north. This would get around Steve's hands full 
>> problem,
>> and would certainly be a bonus in my view.
>> Like Steve, I think Loadstone is a great program, and it has certainly
>> boosted my confidence with regard to new areas around where I live. 
>> Please
>> regard this as a positive suggestion, rather than a negative criticism.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Steve S
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:44 PM
>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] No 'talking map'.
>>
>> Hi Monty.  I think having points spoken in real time as you go about your
>> business can be useful when for example, you've got a guide dog in 1 
>> hand, a
>>
>> bag of shopping or holding a childs hand in the other and you can't 
>> always
>> be pressing your phones keypad.  Like Rob said yesterday, Loadstone isn't 
>> a
>> talking map and that's what I've learned, but surely having a talking map
>> would be a good option?  Say if you're going into an area you've never 
>> been
>> to before and you have to make your way to various parts of it...having 
>> the
>> full area checked would help in orientation.  I do think creating a route 
>> is
>>
>> great, but sometimes you need to go other places on the spare of the 
>> moment
>> without prior planning.  I know you could spend a few minutes sorting out
>> where to go and you could keep refering to the phone, but I don't
>> particularly want to be messing too much with my phone on the
>> street...especially if it raining or something.
>>
>> On the whole I think Loadstone is fantastic and I'm not saying havingg 
>> all
>> points is a must, but the more option we have the better I think.  Cheers
>> Steve.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <monty at loadstone-gps.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] No 'talking map'.
>>
>>
>>> Hi Steve and all other point checkers,
>>>
>>> I don't mean the following in a sarcastic way at all but I'm truly
>>> interested...
>>>
>>> As someone who has used Loadstone since V0.1 and thought about it in
>>> theory prior to that, can someone please tell me why they would want a
>>> database filled with checkpoints?  What benifit does this harness?
>>>
>>> A checkpoint or lockpoint is meant to signify when you've basically
>>> reached your destination or some sort of milestone.  How many of these
>>> could one possibly need or want?
>>>
>>> Pressing the navigation key in Navigation mode is free and tells you on
>>> demand where you are in relation to a point and usually works quite 
>>> well -
>>
>>> in my mind eliminating any need to get bogged down with checkpoints.
>>>
>>> Of course this is not even taking into account the acttual memory
>>> limitations already discussed!
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance...
>>>
>>> Monty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Steve S wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for that Rob.  The last question from me on this subject is, if
>>>> that's the case, is it possible to create smaller databases and check
>>>> them if they only have a few hundred points?  or is this something that
>>>> Loadstone just doesn't do? cheers Steve.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Melchers" 
>>>> <rob at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:50 PM
>>>> Subject: [Loadstone] No 'talking map'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Since the question about a talking map (check all points in database)
>>>>> has been asked several times on this list the following paragraph has
>>>>> been added to chapter 2 of the Getting Started Manual:
>>>>>
>>>>> No 'talking map"
>>>>>
>>>>> The database technology currently used in the Loadstone-GPS program 
>>>>> does
>>
>>>>> not allow an unlimited number of points to be checked (marked as a
>>>>> checkpoint).
>>>>> It is therefore not possible to use this program as a so called 
>>>>> 'talking
>>
>>>>> map'. Experience has learned that the maximum number of checkpoints 
>>>>> that
>>
>>>>> will not 'freeze' the program is around 1000.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
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