[Loadstone] Loadstone Digest, Vol 42, Issue 10

Johnvi Javier johnvij at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 11 13:19:16 GMT 2009


the down side of having a internal gps receiver such as n95, n85  and more, its a bit slower against having an external gps.

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>    1. Re:  LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and N95? (Kit)
>    2. Re:  LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and N95?
>       (monty at loadstone-gps.com)
>    3. Re:  LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and N95?
>       (Ari Moisio)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:52:16 +0800
> From: "Kit" <goldeneagle74 at gmail.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85
>     and N95?
> Message-ID: <002c01ca7997$a0426990$6401a8c0 at user82580b1a3e>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi Shawn,
> 
> I am using N79 and ever since I have started using this phone with gps, I have been using Internal GPS, it work great, no charges, free.   
> 
> Of course, at times, I have to use A-GPS to connect and once it's connected, I will disconnect and select back the internal gps to connect.  Re-connecting with Internal GPS after disconnecting A-GPS will just take seconds and I can go on using internal gps with no problem.
> 
> Try it out.  First initial A-GPS connection will take just a few kbs.  But I have not used A-GPS for a long long time.
> 
> Regards,
> KITT
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Shawn Kirkpatrick 
>   To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:13 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and N95?
> 
> 
>   In loadstone set the gps source setting in settings/gps settings to phone. 
>   After saving the settings you will have the option to use the internal gps 
>   when you do a find gps. This does work, it's been specifically tested on an 
>   n95. All this is also explained in the loadstone documentation. Once you get 
>   this working you'll probably be pretty disappointed with the internal 
>   receiver's performance.
> 
>   On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Yan Bertrand wrote:
> 
>   > Thank you Kitt and Vadhimoolam.
>   >
>   > It so happens that I had already enabled the internal GPS from the settings. But I still have no item in the LoadStone GPS menu that be named "phone", nor under the search for GPS receivers sub-menu.
>   >
>   > So this triggers 2 questions:
>   >
>   > - Where does the item appear exactly when it is present?
>   >
>   > - Do you have any clue if this has been done on series 60 release 9.3 FP1 / FP2 phones?
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Thank you again for your help.
>   >
>   > Best regards,
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >                Yan
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > De : loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] De la part de Kit
>   > Envoy? : 10 December 2009 01:58
>   > ? : loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>   > Objet : Re: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and N95?
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Hi there, hope this will help.  Check your phone setting.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Go to Tools / Settings / General / Positioning / Positioning Method.  If the above sequence cannot bring you to positioning method, find for it under Settings, should be there.  If your phone supports Build in GPS, then you should have 4 items in Positioning method.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Assisted gps, integrated gps, Bluetooth gps and also server.  So, make sure Integrated or build in gps is checked here by enabling it.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Regards,
>   >
>   > KITT
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   >
>   > From: Yan Bertrand <mailto:yan.bertrand at polestar.eu>
>   >
>   > To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>   >
>   > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:52 PM
>   >
>   > Subject: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and N95?
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Hi all,
>   >
>   > I have installed LoadStone (version 0.72) on a Nokia N95 and a Nokia N85 phone.
>   >
>   > I am willing to use the internal GPS. I read the emails & documentation available. (This includes the mailing list archives with the N82 setup information.)
>   >
>   > Basically, where I am supposed to have a "phone" option for the GPS, I never see that item. (If I switch BlueTooth off and I don't accept its enabling, then I have no item at all under "Find a GPS receiver").
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Are these 2 phones supposed to work with their internal GPS receivers for LoadStone?
>   >
>   > If yes, where could I find more information on how to make this work?
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Thank you for your help.
>   >
>   > Best regards,
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Yan
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
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> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:29:11 +0000 (GMT)
> From: monty at loadstone-gps.com
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85
>     and N95?
> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0912101519410.19212 at zvyyraavhz.op.pk>
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> 
> Hello,
> 
> If your internal GPS receiver is doing what you need it to do  then great! 
> I use mine if my external receiver's battery dies or if I am without it. 
> By the very nature of the internal receiver's hardware (Sirf star 2 
> chipset)   they will supply inferior  results  compared to newer external 
> GPS receivers using the MTK or Sirf Star 3 chipsets.  This is bound to 
> change  when Nokia decides to use recent technology in their newer 
> handsets!
> 
> Monty
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Kit wrote:
> 
> > Hi Shawn,
> >
> > I am using N79 and ever since I have started using this phone with gps, I have been using Internal GPS, it work great, no charges, free.
> >
> > Of course, at times, I have to use A-GPS to connect and once it's connected, I will disconnect and select back the internal gps to connect.  Re-connecting with Internal GPS after disconnecting A-GPS will just take seconds and I can go on using internal gps with no problem.
> >
> > Try it out.  First initial A-GPS connection will take just a few kbs.  But I have not used A-GPS for a long long time.
> >
> > Regards,
> > KITT
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: Shawn Kirkpatrick
> >  To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> >  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:13 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and N95?
> >
> >
> >  In loadstone set the gps source setting in settings/gps settings to phone.
> >  After saving the settings you will have the option to use the internal gps
> >  when you do a find gps. This does work, it's been specifically tested on an
> >  n95. All this is also explained in the loadstone documentation. Once you get
> >  this working you'll probably be pretty disappointed with the internal
> >  receiver's performance.
> >
> >  On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Yan Bertrand wrote:
> >
> >  > Thank you Kitt and Vadhimoolam.
> >  >
> >  > It so happens that I had already enabled the internal GPS from the settings. But I still have no item in the LoadStone GPS menu that be named "phone", nor under the search for GPS receivers sub-menu.
> >  >
> >  > So this triggers 2 questions:
> >  >
> >  > - Where does the item appear exactly when it is present?
> >  >
> >  > - Do you have any clue if this has been done on series 60 release 9.3 FP1 / FP2 phones?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Thank you again for your help.
> >  >
> >  > Best regards,
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >                Yan
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > De : loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] De la part de Kit
> >  > Envoy? : 10 December 2009 01:58
> >  > ? : loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> >  > Objet : Re: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and N95?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Hi there, hope this will help.  Check your phone setting.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Go to Tools / Settings / General / Positioning / Positioning Method.  If the above sequence cannot bring you to positioning method, find for it under Settings, should be there.  If your phone supports Build in GPS, then you should have 4 items in Positioning method.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Assisted gps, integrated gps, Bluetooth gps and also server.  So, make sure Integrated or build in gps is checked here by enabling it.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Regards,
> >  >
> >  > KITT
> >  >
> >  > ----- Original Message -----
> >  >
> >  > From: Yan Bertrand <mailto:yan.bertrand at polestar.eu>
> >  >
> >  > To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> >  >
> >  > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:52 PM
> >  >
> >  > Subject: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and N95?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Hi all,
> >  >
> >  > I have installed LoadStone (version 0.72) on a Nokia N95 and a Nokia N85 phone.
> >  >
> >  > I am willing to use the internal GPS. I read the emails & documentation available. (This includes the mailing list archives with the N82 setup information.)
> >  >
> >  > Basically, where I am supposed to have a "phone" option for the GPS, I never see that item. (If I switch BlueTooth off and I don't accept its enabling, then I have no item at all under "Find a GPS receiver").
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Are these 2 phones supposed to work with their internal GPS receivers for LoadStone?
> >  >
> >  > If yes, where could I find more information on how to make this work?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Thank you for your help.
> >  >
> >  > Best regards,
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Yan
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > ________________________________
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > _______________________________________________
> >  > Loadstone mailing list
> >  > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> >  > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:29:15 +0200 (EET)
> From: Ari Moisio <arimo at iki.fi>
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85
>     and N95?
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0912101816550.1591 at arimo.local>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
> 
> Hi
> 
>   Where does these claims come that internal gps's use sirf-ii chipsets? I 
> have 
> one old Globalsat that does have sirf-ii chipset and one cannot  talk 
> the receiver of say N82 and that old receiver on same sentence.
> 
>   I have found that the build-in receiver is not as accurate as best 
> sirf-iii receivers but it beats for example Holux M-1000 (MTK-1) both in 
> accuracy and reliability. Also with AGPS enabled  N82 acquires the 
> satellites much faster than any other receiver i have used, including 
> MTK-2-based Qstarz 816. To be honest  the Qstarz has better accuracy on 
> slow speeds.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> mr. M01510 & guide Loadstone-GPS
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, monty at loadstone-gps.com wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > If your internal GPS receiver is doing what you need it to do  then great! I 
> > use mine if my external receiver's battery dies or if I am without it. By the 
> > very nature of the internal receiver's hardware (Sirf star 2 chipset)   they 
> > will supply inferior  results  compared to newer external GPS receivers using 
> > the MTK or Sirf Star 3 chipsets.  This is bound to change  when Nokia decides 
> > to use recent technology in their newer handsets!
> >
> > Monty
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Kit wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Shawn,
> >> 
> >> I am using N79 and ever since I have started using this phone with gps, I 
> >> have been using Internal GPS, it work great, no charges, free.
> >> 
> >> Of course, at times, I have to use A-GPS to connect and once it's 
> >> connected, I will disconnect and select back the internal gps to connect. 
> >> Re-connecting with Internal GPS after disconnecting A-GPS will just take 
> >> seconds and I can go on using internal gps with no problem.
> >> 
> >> Try it out.  First initial A-GPS connection will take just a few kbs.  But 
> >> I have not used A-GPS for a long long time.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> KITT
> >>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>  From: Shawn Kirkpatrick
> >>  To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> >>  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:13 PM
> >>  Subject: Re: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and 
> >> N95?
> >> 
> >>
> >>  In loadstone set the gps source setting in settings/gps settings to phone.
> >>  After saving the settings you will have the option to use the internal gps
> >>  when you do a find gps. This does work, it's been specifically tested on 
> >> an
> >>  n95. All this is also explained in the loadstone documentation. Once you 
> >> get
> >>  this working you'll probably be pretty disappointed with the internal
> >>  receiver's performance.
> >>
> >>  On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Yan Bertrand wrote:
> >>
> >>  > Thank you Kitt and Vadhimoolam.
> >>  >
> >>  > It so happens that I had already enabled the internal GPS from the 
> >> settings. But I still have no item in the LoadStone GPS menu that be named 
> >> "phone", nor under the search for GPS receivers sub-menu.
> >>  >
> >>  > So this triggers 2 questions:
> >>  >
> >>  > - Where does the item appear exactly when it is present?
> >>  >
> >>  > - Do you have any clue if this has been done on series 60 release 9.3 
> >> FP1 / FP2 phones?
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Thank you again for your help.
> >>  >
> >>  > Best regards,
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >                Yan
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > De : loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com 
> >> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] De la part de Kit
> >>  > Envoy? : 10 December 2009 01:58
> >>  > ? : loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> >>  > Objet : Re: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and 
> >> N95?
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Hi there, hope this will help.  Check your phone setting.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Go to Tools / Settings / General / Positioning / Positioning Method.  If 
> >> the above sequence cannot bring you to positioning method, find for it 
> >> under Settings, should be there.  If your phone supports Build in GPS, then 
> >> you should have 4 items in Positioning method.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Assisted gps, integrated gps, Bluetooth gps and also server.  So, make 
> >> sure Integrated or build in gps is checked here by enabling it.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Regards,
> >>  >
> >>  > KITT
> >>  >
> >>  > ----- Original Message -----
> >>  >
> >>  > From: Yan Bertrand <mailto:yan.bertrand at polestar.eu>
> >>  >
> >>  > To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> >>  >
> >>  > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:52 PM
> >>  >
> >>  > Subject: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Internal GPS receiver of N85 and N95?
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Hi all,
> >>  >
> >>  > I have installed LoadStone (version 0.72) on a Nokia N95 and a Nokia N85 
> >> phone.
> >>  >
> >>  > I am willing to use the internal GPS. I read the emails & documentation 
> >> available. (This includes the mailing list archives with the N82 setup 
> >> information.)
> >>  >
> >>  > Basically, where I am supposed to have a "phone" option for the GPS, I 
> >> never see that item. (If I switch BlueTooth off and I don't accept its 
> >> enabling, then I have no item at all under "Find a GPS receiver").
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Are these 2 phones supposed to work with their internal GPS receivers 
> >> for LoadStone?
> >>  >
> >>  > If yes, where could I find more information on how to make this work?
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Thank you for your help.
> >>  >
> >>  > Best regards,
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Yan
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > ________________________________
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > _______________________________________________
> >>  > Loadstone mailing list
> >>  > Loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> >>  > http://www.loadstone-gps.com/mailman/listinfo/loadstone
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >> 
> >>
> >> 
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> >>
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