[Loadstone] Checkpoints strategy suggestion

Ömer Yesiltas yesiltas1981 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 9 23:15:24 BST 2009

Hi, what is the route mode? is it a future plan to add a route calculator to 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" <shawn at loadstone-gps.com>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Checkpoints strategy suggestion

> I'd write more about route mode but it isn't even started yet. I'll know 
> how it's going to work as soon as I start writing it. The first order of 
> business will be to write a list checkpoints function and have a way of 
> moving points around in the list so the ordering would be correct. Then 
> the exact logic will have to be worked out, automating as much as possible 
> with a manual override to correct if things go wrong.
> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Grzegorz Zlotowicz wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I know the lock point function, but it lacks the goto next or prev on the 
>> checkpoints list...
>> /The route mode sounds exciting, but the automation fraightens me a bit, 
>> I mean - please don't forget about manual mode too...
>> By the way could you write some more about this planned feature?
>> Greetings, Greg.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" 
>> <shawn at loadstone-gps.com>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Checkpoints strategy suggestion
>>> What you propose sounds a bit like the route mode we want to implement. 
>>> The route mode would use an ordered checkpoint list but figure out as 
>>> much as possible automatically without the user having to tell it which 
>>> way in the route they're going.
>>> At the moment you can monitor a specific point by using the lock point 
>>> function. Not quite checkpoint monitoring but close.
>>> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Grzegorz Zlotowicz wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> the checkpoints subject is often discussed on the list, but as far as I 
>>>> know, the strategy i would like to suggest wasn't discussed yet...
>>>> I know that the current checkpoints monitoring strategy can be useful 
>>>> for many users, but personally i haven't very good experiences with 
>>>> it - when more than one checkpoint is marked, I often got erroneous 
>>>> directions not to the point on my way, but to some other - I think it 
>>>> is the result of the gps position drift...
>>>> Many times I also get the beginning of the checkpoint announce, and 
>>>> then - even before the distance and direction - other checkpoint, then 
>>>> again the first one and so on, so personally at the moment i'm using 
>>>> one cp at the time, selecting it manually or loading from file, but it 
>>>> isn't very comfortable...
>>>> Strategy i'd like to disscuss is as follows:
>>>> 1. In the default mode checkpoints monitoring would behave as usual, 
>>>> monitoring all checkpoint at once...
>>>> 2. Function next checkpoint and prev checkpoint would switch this 
>>>> monitoring to the next or previous checkpoint - the order of points 
>>>> would be incherited from the file where they're saved, or from the 
>>>> order user checks one after an other...
>>>> 3. I imagine, that in the program would be variable called for example 
>>>> checkpointnum, which by default would have value 0, meaning that all 
>>>> the points should be monitored as it's now.
>>>> 4. When user call next checkpoint function, the value of this variable 
>>>> would be increased by 1, pointing after first usage to the 1st 
>>>> checkpoint on the list.
>>>> 5. When user calls prev checkpoint, value of checkpointnum is decreased 
>>>> by 1, or if less than 1 - set to the last point in the checkpoints 
>>>> array.
>>>> 6. When checkpointnum is non0, the program monitors only the checkpoint 
>>>> having this number in the array, ignoring all other.
>>>> In this case, pressing key 5 in the nav mode would always give distance 
>>>> and direction to this point, even when user isn't actually moving, or 
>>>> Loadstone thinks so...
>>>> 7. There could also be optional setting, if aproaching the monitored 
>>>> checkpoints advances the checkpointnum - if it's 0 nothing happens of 
>>>> course, but if non0, autoadvance is on and user approached monitored 
>>>> checkpoint, program would increase or decrease the checkpointnum - 
>>>> remembering what was last used command, i mean depending on if prev 
>>>> checkpoint, or next checkpoint...
>>>> If we imagine, that the checkpoint list contains ordered points on the 
>>>> user way, such autoadvance would let him automatically track next 
>>>> interesting point on the way depending on if user is going the way from 
>>>> beginning to end or returning from end to the beginning...
>>>> One prerequisite is of course, that all points in the list are in the 
>>>> correct order, which as i think is the case in most listings, but if 
>>>> they aren't - nothing happens, simply user doesn't uses this feature 
>>>> using instead the automagical program monitoring...
>>>> I hope, that the implementation of such functionality would simplify 
>>>> the loadstone usage in many cases for the beginners and advanced users, 
>>>> and isn't as i imagine very hard and time consuming to implement...
>>>> I'd like to hear from you what do you think about such solution?
>>>> Of course in the above explanation i omitted some minor details, such 
>>>> as that if the checkpointnum is 1, user presses prev checkpoint, the 
>>>> program returns to the default all-monitoring mode...
>>>> Also the message "next checkpoint is..." or "previous checkpoint is..." 
>>>> or - "last checkpoint is..." after calling the prev/next checkpoint 
>>>> function, seems rather obwious, letting user know when he is at the 
>>>> last checkpoint on the way, but as i said, these are rather minor 
>>>> details...
>>>> Thanks for your time,
>>>> greetings, Greg.
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