[Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.

Cearbhall O Meadhra cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie
Wed May 14 11:19:53 BST 2008


Shawn,

Where can I find out more about the loadstone log function?

All the best,
 
 
Cearbhall 
 
"Good design enables - Bad design disables"
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Kirkpatrick
Sent: 14 May 2008 09:19
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.

No need to use a receiver with a data logger since you can just use
loadstone's log function to get all data. Then you can process this data any
way you want.

On Wed, 14 May 2008, Cearbhall O Meadhra wrote:

> Dear Shawn,
>
> I think this is a very interesting proposition. I would like to give 
> it some thought before proposing a solution but I am thinking of 
> somehow trapping the data stored by such gPS receivers as the Royaltek 
> 2100. This receiver provides a log file of points recorded every 20 
> seconds or so. I have successfully interrogated this log file and pulled
point data into Excel.
> Naming the point is the difficulty and I have a way of doing that with 
> a generic name that the user would have to modify manually later by 
> passing through the same area again.
>
> As I say, I would like to give it some more thought and see if I can 
> come up with a proposal.
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>
> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Shawn 
> Kirkpatrick
> Sent: 14 May 2008 08:06
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>
> I don't know why you'd think loadstone acting as a receiver would get 
> you other program's poi data. It's not a two way comunication between 
> the receiver and navigation program, it's pretty much read only. 
> Loadstone could send something a latitude/longitude but then what? 
> You'd still have to get the data out of the other program and get it 
> in to loadstone. This also would mean you'd have to know what 
> coordinates to send to get a point. You could do this with a pc and
probably a lot faster as well.
> As for copyright, if you somehow got this system to work (don't see 
> how) this would be pretty much the very definition of copyright 
> violation. you'd be copying information from one program to another, 
> probably rather against the commercial program's terms of use.
>
> On Wed, 14 May 2008, Ari Moisio wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>>  There were few years  ago a project called digistop attempting to 
>> collect location data about busstops and trains stations but that 
>> project ended without any major results.
>>
>>  I have also suggested using Loadstone as a gps receiver emulator and 
>> thus fooling other navigation packages to reveal  their POI data but 
>> no success either. I do not thing there will be any copyright 
>> problems because no data will  actually copied, neither location data 
>> or description of the POI. The situation is equivalent to moving into 
>> some location with one navigator and then storing the location with
> Loadstone.
>>
>>
>> You can still escape from the Gates of hell: Use Linux!
>> --
>> mr. M01510
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 13 May 2008, Gianfranco Giudice wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ari
>>>
>>> Try to contact some public transportation companies to obtain their 
>>> point coordinates. So you can share it with others in Finland.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Shawn 
>>> Kirkpatrick
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:11 AM
>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>>
>>> I think the latest version of talks (3.52.6) has tried to fix some 
>>> of these browser problems. If you can't upgrade this could be a 
>>> problem
> thoe.
>>> The file recognizer is on the todo list but it's a ways off. This 
>>> doesn't enable sending data, just receiving it. The whole sending 
>>> thing is another process. That'll take some thought, an sms is only 
>>> 160 characters so we'll have to ensure that a point's data can fit 
>>> in that. We'll also have to come up with propper file types for
recognition.
>>> If you're the only loadstone user in Finland then you should be 
>>> uploading data to the point share exchange. That way other users may 
>>> have some data to start with.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 13 May 2008, Ari Moisio wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>>  yes, the basic idea is similar to pointshare exchange.  There are 
>>>> however some differences:
>>>>
>>>> - This method will be mobile. I tried to use the pse and didn't 
>>>> even managed to the login page with neither of the screen readers 
>>>> with
>>>> N73 so couldn't tell any details about it's usability. With 6680 i 
>>>> finally managed to get into login page, logged in, got a response 
>>>> about
> invalid
>>>> data but was  unable to enter   all search criteria, i couldn't figure
> out
>>>> how to put focus on the longitude field.  Unfortunately the phone 
>>>> browsers and screen readers are not here yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Most recent navigator application use online map data download.
>>>> Because such feature will not according earlier messages to be 
>>>> implemented with Loadstone there  have to be developed some workaround.
>>>>
>>>> - This method will be moderately easy to use if Loadstone will 
>>>> implement tthe file type recognizer.
>>>>
>>>> - This will enable such feature as sending one's location to 
>>>> another user.  Returning home and using the desktop computer will 
>>>> defeat this type of functionality.
>>>>
>>>> - This method enables automatic retrieval of point data around 
>>>> user's current location.
>>>>
>>>> - Point data could  be sent to pse if desired. However  afaik i'm 
>>>> only LS user in Finland i have not hurried to use the exchanger yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can still escape from the Gates of hell: Use Linux!
>>>> --
>>>> mr. M01510
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2008, Shawn Kirkpatrick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this exactly what the point 
>>>>> share exchange will do? You can send it your exported file and 
>>>>> then use various criteria to retrieve other points from the main
database.
>>>>> You could probably do this from the phone's browser if you wanted.
>>>>> I think it would be nice if people would use the point share 
>>>>> exchange rather than creating a whole bunch of small side projects.
>>>>> If things are combined then everyone can use them rather than 
>>>>> trying to hunt all over the place for bits of data.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2008, Ari Moisio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  This would be a great improvement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I'll currently building an email service to automatically merge 
>>>>>> LS export file into database and also extract a small area from 
>>>>>> the database if required and sent it to the phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Nothing fancy, just a basic functionality to get location  data 
>>>>>> 'on the road' and also a  way to send own current location to 
>>>>>> someone if
>>> needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can still escape from the Gates of hell: Use Linux!
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> mr. M01510
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 8 May 2008, Shawn Kirkpatrick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We plan on making it possible for loadstone to intercept a 
>>>>>>> loadstone file if it's sent to the phone bypassing all the 
>>>>>>> current steps of using the inbox etc. This will be a rather 
>>>>>>> large job and I'm not completely sure it'll be possible with the 
>>>>>>> restrictions on
>>> third edition.
>>>>>>>
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