[Loadstone] Menu closes partially (Was: "phase 7 of 8")

Stephen Giggar sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
Thu May 8 03:02:24 BST 2008

OK! Shawn and others. This looks like it is a N82 issue or some other program problem. MobileSpeak 
version 3.40 also has problems and it is even worse in the below example. I change MobileSpeak to 
beginner and changed the verbosity to ALL/Highest. That away it would speak the menu list numbers 
like 1 of 7 etc... Then I went into the same menu structure from within Loadstone. Example:


At that point, MobileSpeak would only read Phase 7 of 8. It did not read any of the information 
other then that. Then when pressing any of the arrows or numbers; MobileSpeak still only read the 

So I do not think the problem is related to just Talks. Being MobileSpeak also has problems on the 
N82 with the above.

As a parcel work around for Talks as far as getting it not to speak the 7 of 8 part on the N82.
1. Start loadstone.
2. Go into the Talks settings with Talks long SoftKey1.
3. Press Options.
4. Press select on App. Specific setting.
5. Press Options.
6. Press Select on Add App. Specific Value.
7. Arrow to Read List Index and press select.
8. Press select a second time to open the combo box.
9. Arrow to Never and press select.
10. Press SoftKey2 to exit and key pressing it until you get back to loadstone.

Now you will not hear the 1 of x when arrowing through menus.

Like I have said; This is only a parcel work around. You will still hear the word Phase after 
things. If the above is followed with Talks it will only effect loadstone.

With MobileSpeak with the verbosity set to the default, again you will not hear any information 
spoken accept for the word Phase and nothing else even if the numbers/arrow are used.

Now with MobileSpeak if you go back into Options and arrow to something else; It seems to straiten 
up for the new screen.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgiggar at sbcglobal.net>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Menu closes partially (Was: "phase 7 of 8")


I have tried this on my N82 and get the same results as pointed out with Talks. On my N73 this
doesn't happen. Same goes for a N95-3 (USA) model.

The N82 has firmware 20.0.062.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" <shawn at loadstone-gps.com>
To: "LoadStone Lista" <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Menu closes partially (Was: "phase 7 of 8")

This sounds like a talks/n82 problem. Is anyone else getting this problem
with an n82 or any other phone? Maybe check the talks list to see if other
people are having any kind of trouble with the n82. Maybe check for another
firmware upgrade. I doubt this is a loadstone issue specifically.

On Thu, 8 May 2008, Przemys³aw Rogalski wrote:

> Hello,
> It seems that the problem that the nested menu item doesn't close completely, occurs on the Nokia
> N82, both with Talks 3.51.1 and 3.52.6, and with FW 11 (from 10th December) or 20 (from 28th
> February).
> An example of this kind of menu is Functions/Position/Satellites or
> Functions/Astronomic/Moon/Phase.
> Talks will keep reading eg. "Phase 7 of 8" at the end of each message, regardles of where you move
> then.
> Any solution?
> Przemyslaw

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