[Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.

Jacob Kruger jacobk at cknet.co.za
Wed May 7 11:57:11 BST 2008


I actually managed 44 thousand - around half of what we thought had been 
imported, and mine did eventually say 'export complete' which is when I went 
and looked at the file.

Am going to now try 0.70 and will see what it says.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.


>I am using v0.69.
>
> Did you find any way of noting progress with the export? You reported
> yesterday that you had managed to export only 4,000 entries. I managed 
> 6,000
> this morning and then when I tried again I managed 22,000! I left the 
> second
> one run longer before looking for the file. The system did not tell me 
> that
> it had finished so I am not sure if I have been interrupting the export
> process each time. What do you think?
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>
> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
> Sent: 07 May 2008 09:49
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>
> What version of LoadStone are you now using for this import?
>
> I'll probably also retry it using 0.70 a bit later, but will first back up
> my memory card contents again, and will then compare the two.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>
>
>> OK,
>>
>> I am loading the two files into my own phone and will let you know how 
>> the
>> export goes when they are in position.
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>> Cearbhall
>>
>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>
>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
>> Sent: 06 May 2008 21:36
>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>
>> Along the lines of this, will maybe try re-importing them into the new
>> 0.70
>> version once I have got around to trying it out, but will let you know.
>>
>> Stay well
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> Blind Biker
>> Skype: BlindZA
>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>
>>
>>> Tanks Shawn,
>>>
>>> then the 99,996 entreies in the South african file are all unique 
>>> because
>>> they have each been given a unique time-based id string.
>>>
>>> We will have to see if we can find out why jacob can only export a
>>> quarter
>>> of the entries which he loaded.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Cearbhall
>>>
>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>
>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
>>> Kirkpatrick
>>> Sent: 06 May 2008 13:17
>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>>
>>> A duplicate entry is one with the same id and userid. All other fields
>>> can
>>> be changed.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 6 May 2008, Cearbhall O Meadhra wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I got interested in this discussion and had a go on my two mobiles.
>>>>
>>>> I found that the N70 would only put loadstone into the background  if
>>>> I press the menu key and the 2 key. The hang-up key exited Loadstone
>>>> and did not put it into the background.
>>>>
>>>> The N6680 was different. On this phone the hang-up key does put the
>>>> loadstone program into the background and so also does the menu key
>>>> followed by the 2 key.
>>>>
>>>> Shawn, what constitutes a duplicate entry in loadstone? For instance,
>>>> some of the South African entries have the same longitude and latitude
>>>> but the names are different. Is this a duplicate? Do all three fields
>>>> have to be the same?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cearbhall
>>>>
>>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>>
>>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  _____
>>>>
>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of David Allen
>>>> Sent: 06 May 2008 03:38
>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Shawn and list!
>>>>
>>>> Interesting stuff. I just duplicated it here on my Nokia 6630 running
>>>> Loadstone version .69. Got Loadstone going. Pressed end. It took me
>>>> back to main screen. Pressed long menu and Loadstone was still running
>>>> so was able to bring it back.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Shawn  <mailto:shawn at loadstone-gps.com> Kirkpatrick
>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>>>
>>>> This is not the way most applications are sent to the background. Can
>>>> anybody name a case where this happens? The end key sends the signal
>>>> that according to the documentation the application is supposed to
>>>> exit as soon as possible. Maybe the end key will background on some
>>>> phones but not on any
>>>>
>>>> I've seen. You can tell if an application has gone in to the
>>>> background if you hit long menu, that'll give the currently running
>>> applications list.
>>>> There's only one situation that may appear to do this, the contacts
>>>> application. When you make a call from there it keeps running in the
>>>> background after the call completes. I think this is because when
>>>> making a call the contacts application actually just switches to the
>>>> always running phone application.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 5 May 2008, Jim Ruby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering why you don't let it run in the background when the end
>>>>> or handup button is pressed as this is the way most applications are
>>>>> sent to the background?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
>>>> Kirkpatrick
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:04 PM
>>>>> To: Loadstone mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> One minor correction to your post, pressing the hang up or end button
>>>>> will not cause loadstone to run in the background. That is the end
>>>>> button and that means end now without asking questions. Maybe on some
>>>>> phones this button will cause the running program to drop to the
>>>>> background but not on any phones I've seen. This could explain why
>>>>> your files are different. I'd also guess that maybe your files had
>>>>> some duplicates that would explain
>>>> why
>>>>> they're not exactly the same size when exported.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 5 May 2008, Jacob Kruger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Along the lines of what we've being looking into over the last week
>>>>>> or
>>>> so,
>>>>> I
>>>>>> had two of Cearbhall's geonames export files to import, both with
>>>>>> around 50000 entries in them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, along the lines of thinking about memory issues etc., I in
>>>>>> fact backed up my whole memory card on my 6680 (was a 64Mb card),
>>>>>> and moved everything over to a 1Gb card that I had laying around
>>>>>> that I normally
>>>> use
>>>>>> for other things relating to PDAs etc., and then restarted the phone
>>>>>> with that one in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, phone does seem to do one or two things slightly slower, and
>>>>>> one
>>>>> or
>>>>>> two menu items on my 6680 were in fact now in different orders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, while I had in fact imported the first file in the period of
>>>>> around
>>>>>> 3-4 hours from start to finish, this second import took around7-8
>>>>>> hours,
>>>>> but
>>>>>> when it was done (and for interests sake, you can just press the
>>>>>> hang up button to revert to the phone's normal operations, and it'll
>>>>>> carry on in
>>>>> the
>>>>>> background), I then did an export to see how many entries it had
>>>>>> actually loaded, which, for some or other reason seems to now
>>>>>> basically have
>>>> turned
>>>>>> out at 44000 - although, this export took around 3 hours in the
>>>> background
>>>>>> so maybe it was in fact missing something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Either way, now when I start loadstone, it takes around 15 seconds
>>>>>> before
>>>>> it
>>>>>> seems completely co-operative, but allows me to load points both
>>>> manually,
>>>>>> and automatically using the # key in navigation mode, and apart from
>>>>>> that
>>>>> it
>>>>>> works fine, if taking a bit longer to in fact complete searches now.
>>>> Will
>>>>>> maybe just have to choose random entries in both import files to try
>>>>>> find out why some of them either aren't being loaded, or exported or
>>>> something,
>>>>>> but don't think it's really a major hassle as such as long as I can
>>>>>> in
>>>>> fact
>>>>>> still load my own points.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, FWIW, on the MMC which the phone seems to think is around
>>>>>> 997Mb, I still have around 872Mb available, and the default database
>>>>>> seems to be around 2.76Mb, while the latest export file is 2.75Mb,
>>>>>> but not sure if it indeed took all the points I tried to import, or
>>>>>> whether it'smissing something since both of the imported files were
>>>>>> around 3.1Mb when I
>>>> loaded
>>>>>> them - who knows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, all seems to actually be working fine now, and will try one
>>>>>> or
>>>> two
>>>>>> more things and see how it all goes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stay well
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>>>> Blind Biker
>>>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>>>
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