[Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.

Shawn Kirkpatrick shawn at loadstone-gps.com
Wed May 7 08:49:39 BST 2008


I'd give it another try. Make sure you have enough disk space and you use 
the export all option. See if it errors for some reason.

On Wed, 7 May 2008, Cearbhall O Meadhra wrote:

> Shawn or Monty,
>
> I successfully uploaded the 49,995 points contained in the first half of the
> South African points file from Geonames. I deleted the default database
> before importing so that only the SA data is loaded. loadstone reported 100%
> success in importing the 49,995 entries with no duplicates and zero entries
> updated, etc. The default file is now 3.3 mb in size which looks about what
> I would expect.
>
> I then exported "all data" and have full power available as I am running on
> the charger. The export completed very quickly without announcing any
> result. An export file of 416 kb in size was generated containing only 6,219
> entries!
>
> As there is no way that there are over 43,000 duplicate records in the input
> file! Can you help me to understand what is happening? Is there a limit on
> the number of entries that can be exported from the loadstone default file?
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>
> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O
> Meadhra
> Sent: 07 May 2008 03:09
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>
> OK,
>
> I am loading the two files into my own phone and will let you know how the
> export goes when they are in position.
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>
> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
> Sent: 06 May 2008 21:36
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>
> Along the lines of this, will maybe try re-importing them into the new 0.70
> version once I have got around to trying it out, but will let you know.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>
>
>> Tanks Shawn,
>>
>> then the 99,996 entreies in the South african file are all unique
>> because they have each been given a unique time-based id string.
>>
>> We will have to see if we can find out why jacob can only export a
>> quarter of the entries which he loaded.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>> Cearbhall
>>
>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>
>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
>> Kirkpatrick
>> Sent: 06 May 2008 13:17
>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>
>> A duplicate entry is one with the same id and userid. All other fields
>> can be changed.
>>
>> On Tue, 6 May 2008, Cearbhall O Meadhra wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I got interested in this discussion and had a go on my two mobiles.
>>>
>>> I found that the N70 would only put loadstone into the background  if
>>> I press the menu key and the 2 key. The hang-up key exited Loadstone
>>> and did not put it into the background.
>>>
>>> The N6680 was different. On this phone the hang-up key does put the
>>> loadstone program into the background and so also does the menu key
>>> followed by the 2 key.
>>>
>>> Shawn, what constitutes a duplicate entry in loadstone? For instance,
>>> some of the South African entries have the same longitude and
>>> latitude but the names are different. Is this a duplicate? Do all
>>> three fields have to be the same?
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Cearbhall
>>>
>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>
>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  _____
>>>
>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of David Allen
>>> Sent: 06 May 2008 03:38
>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Shawn and list!
>>>
>>> Interesting stuff. I just duplicated it here on my Nokia 6630 running
>>> Loadstone version .69. Got Loadstone going. Pressed end. It took me
>>> back to main screen. Pressed long menu and Loadstone was still
>>> running so was able to bring it back.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Shawn  <mailto:shawn at loadstone-gps.com> Kirkpatrick
>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>>
>>> This is not the way most applications are sent to the background. Can
>>> anybody name a case where this happens? The end key sends the signal
>>> that according to the documentation the application is supposed to
>>> exit as soon as possible. Maybe the end key will background on some
>>> phones but not on any
>>>
>>> I've seen. You can tell if an application has gone in to the
>>> background if you hit long menu, that'll give the currently running
>> applications list.
>>> There's only one situation that may appear to do this, the contacts
>>> application. When you make a call from there it keeps running in the
>>> background after the call completes. I think this is because when
>>> making a call the contacts application actually just switches to the
>>> always running phone application.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 5 May 2008, Jim Ruby wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm wondering why you don't let it run in the background when the
>>>> end or handup button is pressed as this is the way most applications
>>>> are sent to the background?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
>>> Kirkpatrick
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:04 PM
>>>> To: Loadstone mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>>>
>>>> One minor correction to your post, pressing the hang up or end
>>>> button will not cause loadstone to run in the background. That is
>>>> the end button and that means end now without asking questions.
>>>> Maybe on some phones this button will cause the running program to
>>>> drop to the background but not on any phones I've seen. This could
>>>> explain why your files are different. I'd also guess that maybe your
>>>> files had some duplicates that would explain
>>> why
>>>> they're not exactly the same size when exported.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 5 May 2008, Jacob Kruger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok,
>>>>>
>>>>> Along the lines of what we've being looking into over the last week
>>>>> or
>>> so,
>>>> I
>>>>> had two of Cearbhall's geonames export files to import, both with
>>>>> around 50000 entries in them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, along the lines of thinking about memory issues etc., I in
>>>>> fact backed up my whole memory card on my 6680 (was a 64Mb card),
>>>>> and moved everything over to a 1Gb card that I had laying around
>>>>> that I normally
>>> use
>>>>> for other things relating to PDAs etc., and then restarted the
>>>>> phone with that one in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, phone does seem to do one or two things slightly slower,
>>>>> and one
>>>> or
>>>>> two menu items on my 6680 were in fact now in different orders.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, while I had in fact imported the first file in the period
>>>>> of
>>>> around
>>>>> 3-4 hours from start to finish, this second import took around7-8
>>>>> hours,
>>>> but
>>>>> when it was done (and for interests sake, you can just press the
>>>>> hang up button to revert to the phone's normal operations, and
>>>>> it'll carry on in
>>>> the
>>>>> background), I then did an export to see how many entries it had
>>>>> actually loaded, which, for some or other reason seems to now
>>>>> basically have
>>> turned
>>>>> out at 44000 - although, this export took around 3 hours in the
>>> background
>>>>> so maybe it was in fact missing something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either way, now when I start loadstone, it takes around 15 seconds
>>>>> before
>>>> it
>>>>> seems completely co-operative, but allows me to load points both
>>> manually,
>>>>> and automatically using the # key in navigation mode, and apart
>>>>> from that
>>>> it
>>>>> works fine, if taking a bit longer to in fact complete searches now.
>>> Will
>>>>> maybe just have to choose random entries in both import files to
>>>>> try find out why some of them either aren't being loaded, or
>>>>> exported or
>>> something,
>>>>> but don't think it's really a major hassle as such as long as I can
>>>>> in
>>>> fact
>>>>> still load my own points.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, FWIW, on the MMC which the phone seems to think is around
>>>>> 997Mb, I still have around 872Mb available, and the default
>>>>> database seems to be around 2.76Mb, while the latest export file is
>>>>> 2.75Mb, but not sure if it indeed took all the points I tried to
>>>>> import, or whether it'smissing something since both of the imported
>>>>> files were around 3.1Mb when I
>>> loaded
>>>>> them - who knows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, all seems to actually be working fine now, and will try one
>>>>> or
>>> two
>>>>> more things and see how it all goes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stay well
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>>> Blind Biker
>>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>>
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