[Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.

Jacob Kruger jacobk at cknet.co.za
Tue May 6 21:36:13 BST 2008


Along the lines of this, will maybe try re-importing them into the new 0.70 
version once I have got around to trying it out, but will let you know.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.


> Tanks Shawn,
>
> then the 99,996 entreies in the South african file are all unique because
> they have each been given a unique time-based id string.
>
> We will have to see if we can find out why jacob can only export a quarter
> of the entries which he loaded.
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>
> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Shawn 
> Kirkpatrick
> Sent: 06 May 2008 13:17
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>
> A duplicate entry is one with the same id and userid. All other fields can
> be changed.
>
> On Tue, 6 May 2008, Cearbhall O Meadhra wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I got interested in this discussion and had a go on my two mobiles.
>>
>> I found that the N70 would only put loadstone into the background  if
>> I press the menu key and the 2 key. The hang-up key exited Loadstone
>> and did not put it into the background.
>>
>> The N6680 was different. On this phone the hang-up key does put the
>> loadstone program into the background and so also does the menu key
>> followed by the 2 key.
>>
>> Shawn, what constitutes a duplicate entry in loadstone? For instance,
>> some of the South African entries have the same longitude and latitude
>> but the names are different. Is this a duplicate? Do all three fields
>> have to be the same?
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>> Cearbhall
>>
>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>
>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  _____
>>
>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of David Allen
>> Sent: 06 May 2008 03:38
>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>
>>
>> Hi Shawn and list!
>>
>> Interesting stuff. I just duplicated it here on my Nokia 6630 running
>> Loadstone version .69. Got Loadstone going. Pressed end. It took me
>> back to main screen. Pressed long menu and Loadstone was still running
>> so was able to bring it back.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Shawn  <mailto:shawn at loadstone-gps.com> Kirkpatrick
>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>
>> This is not the way most applications are sent to the background. Can
>> anybody name a case where this happens? The end key sends the signal
>> that according to the documentation the application is supposed to
>> exit as soon as possible. Maybe the end key will background on some
>> phones but not on any
>>
>> I've seen. You can tell if an application has gone in to the
>> background if you hit long menu, that'll give the currently running
> applications list.
>> There's only one situation that may appear to do this, the contacts
>> application. When you make a call from there it keeps running in the
>> background after the call completes. I think this is because when
>> making a call the contacts application actually just switches to the
>> always running phone application.
>>
>> On Mon, 5 May 2008, Jim Ruby wrote:
>>
>>> I'm wondering why you don't let it run in the background when the end
>>> or handup button is pressed as this is the way most applications are
>>> sent to the background?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
>> Kirkpatrick
>>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:04 PM
>>> To: Loadstone mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>>
>>> One minor correction to your post, pressing the hang up or end button
>>> will not cause loadstone to run in the background. That is the end
>>> button and that means end now without asking questions. Maybe on some
>>> phones this button will cause the running program to drop to the
>>> background but not on any phones I've seen. This could explain why
>>> your files are different. I'd also guess that maybe your files had
>>> some duplicates that would explain
>> why
>>> they're not exactly the same size when exported.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 5 May 2008, Jacob Kruger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok,
>>>>
>>>> Along the lines of what we've being looking into over the last week
>>>> or
>> so,
>>> I
>>>> had two of Cearbhall's geonames export files to import, both with
>>>> around 50000 entries in them.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, along the lines of thinking about memory issues etc., I in
>>>> fact backed up my whole memory card on my 6680 (was a 64Mb card),
>>>> and moved everything over to a 1Gb card that I had laying around
>>>> that I normally
>> use
>>>> for other things relating to PDAs etc., and then restarted the phone
>>>> with that one in.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, phone does seem to do one or two things slightly slower, and
>>>> one
>>> or
>>>> two menu items on my 6680 were in fact now in different orders.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, while I had in fact imported the first file in the period of
>>> around
>>>> 3-4 hours from start to finish, this second import took around7-8
>>>> hours,
>>> but
>>>> when it was done (and for interests sake, you can just press the
>>>> hang up button to revert to the phone's normal operations, and it'll
>>>> carry on in
>>> the
>>>> background), I then did an export to see how many entries it had
>>>> actually loaded, which, for some or other reason seems to now
>>>> basically have
>> turned
>>>> out at 44000 - although, this export took around 3 hours in the
>> background
>>>> so maybe it was in fact missing something.
>>>>
>>>> Either way, now when I start loadstone, it takes around 15 seconds
>>>> before
>>> it
>>>> seems completely co-operative, but allows me to load points both
>> manually,
>>>> and automatically using the # key in navigation mode, and apart from
>>>> that
>>> it
>>>> works fine, if taking a bit longer to in fact complete searches now.
>> Will
>>>> maybe just have to choose random entries in both import files to try
>>>> find out why some of them either aren't being loaded, or exported or
>> something,
>>>> but don't think it's really a major hassle as such as long as I can
>>>> in
>>> fact
>>>> still load my own points.
>>>>
>>>> Also, FWIW, on the MMC which the phone seems to think is around
>>>> 997Mb, I still have around 872Mb available, and the default database
>>>> seems to be around 2.76Mb, while the latest export file is 2.75Mb,
>>>> but not sure if it indeed took all the points I tried to import, or
>>>> whether it'smissing something since both of the imported files were
>>>> around 3.1Mb when I
>> loaded
>>>> them - who knows.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, all seems to actually be working fine now, and will try one
>>>> or
>> two
>>>> more things and see how it all goes.
>>>>
>>>> Stay well
>>>>
>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>> Blind Biker
>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>
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