[Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.

Cearbhall O Meadhra cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie
Tue May 6 17:11:33 BST 2008


Tanks Shawn,

then the 99,996 entreies in the South african file are all unique because
they have each been given a unique time-based id string.  

We will have to see if we can find out why jacob can only export a quarter
of the entries which he loaded.

All the best,
 
 
Cearbhall 
 
"Good design enables - Bad design disables"
 
Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
 

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Kirkpatrick
Sent: 06 May 2008 13:17
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.

A duplicate entry is one with the same id and userid. All other fields can
be changed.

On Tue, 6 May 2008, Cearbhall O Meadhra wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I got interested in this discussion and had a go on my two mobiles.
>
> I found that the N70 would only put loadstone into the background  if 
> I press the menu key and the 2 key. The hang-up key exited Loadstone 
> and did not put it into the background.
>
> The N6680 was different. On this phone the hang-up key does put the 
> loadstone program into the background and so also does the menu key 
> followed by the 2 key.
>
> Shawn, what constitutes a duplicate entry in loadstone? For instance, 
> some of the South African entries have the same longitude and latitude 
> but the names are different. Is this a duplicate? Do all three fields 
> have to be the same?
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>
> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>
>
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of David Allen
> Sent: 06 May 2008 03:38
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>
>
> Hi Shawn and list!
>
> Interesting stuff. I just duplicated it here on my Nokia 6630 running 
> Loadstone version .69. Got Loadstone going. Pressed end. It took me 
> back to main screen. Pressed long menu and Loadstone was still running 
> so was able to bring it back.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shawn  <mailto:shawn at loadstone-gps.com> Kirkpatrick
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>
> This is not the way most applications are sent to the background. Can 
> anybody name a case where this happens? The end key sends the signal 
> that according to the documentation the application is supposed to 
> exit as soon as possible. Maybe the end key will background on some 
> phones but not on any
>
> I've seen. You can tell if an application has gone in to the 
> background if you hit long menu, that'll give the currently running
applications list.
> There's only one situation that may appear to do this, the contacts 
> application. When you make a call from there it keeps running in the 
> background after the call completes. I think this is because when 
> making a call the contacts application actually just switches to the 
> always running phone application.
>
> On Mon, 5 May 2008, Jim Ruby wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering why you don't let it run in the background when the end 
>> or handup button is pressed as this is the way most applications are 
>> sent to the background?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
> Kirkpatrick
>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:04 PM
>> To: Loadstone mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Further info regarding progress etc.
>>
>> One minor correction to your post, pressing the hang up or end button 
>> will not cause loadstone to run in the background. That is the end 
>> button and that means end now without asking questions. Maybe on some 
>> phones this button will cause the running program to drop to the 
>> background but not on any phones I've seen. This could explain why 
>> your files are different. I'd also guess that maybe your files had 
>> some duplicates that would explain
> why
>> they're not exactly the same size when exported.
>>
>> On Mon, 5 May 2008, Jacob Kruger wrote:
>>
>>> Ok,
>>>
>>> Along the lines of what we've being looking into over the last week 
>>> or
> so,
>> I
>>> had two of Cearbhall's geonames export files to import, both with 
>>> around 50000 entries in them.
>>>
>>> Anyway, along the lines of thinking about memory issues etc., I in 
>>> fact backed up my whole memory card on my 6680 (was a 64Mb card), 
>>> and moved everything over to a 1Gb card that I had laying around 
>>> that I normally
> use
>>> for other things relating to PDAs etc., and then restarted the phone 
>>> with that one in.
>>>
>>> Anyway, phone does seem to do one or two things slightly slower, and 
>>> one
>> or
>>> two menu items on my 6680 were in fact now in different orders.
>>>
>>> Anyway, while I had in fact imported the first file in the period of
>> around
>>> 3-4 hours from start to finish, this second import took around7-8 
>>> hours,
>> but
>>> when it was done (and for interests sake, you can just press the 
>>> hang up button to revert to the phone's normal operations, and it'll 
>>> carry on in
>> the
>>> background), I then did an export to see how many entries it had 
>>> actually loaded, which, for some or other reason seems to now 
>>> basically have
> turned
>>> out at 44000 - although, this export took around 3 hours in the
> background
>>> so maybe it was in fact missing something.
>>>
>>> Either way, now when I start loadstone, it takes around 15 seconds 
>>> before
>> it
>>> seems completely co-operative, but allows me to load points both
> manually,
>>> and automatically using the # key in navigation mode, and apart from 
>>> that
>> it
>>> works fine, if taking a bit longer to in fact complete searches now.
> Will
>>> maybe just have to choose random entries in both import files to try 
>>> find out why some of them either aren't being loaded, or exported or
> something,
>>> but don't think it's really a major hassle as such as long as I can 
>>> in
>> fact
>>> still load my own points.
>>>
>>> Also, FWIW, on the MMC which the phone seems to think is around 
>>> 997Mb, I still have around 872Mb available, and the default database 
>>> seems to be around 2.76Mb, while the latest export file is 2.75Mb, 
>>> but not sure if it indeed took all the points I tried to import, or 
>>> whether it'smissing something since both of the imported files were 
>>> around 3.1Mb when I
> loaded
>>> them - who knows.
>>>
>>> Anyway, all seems to actually be working fine now, and will try one 
>>> or
> two
>>> more things and see how it all goes.
>>>
>>> Stay well
>>>
>>> Jacob Kruger
>>> Blind Biker
>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>
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