[Loadstone] Suggestion for Enhancement

monty at loadstone-gps.com monty at loadstone-gps.com
Thu Jan 24 22:11:39 GMT 2008


Hello Stephen,

We are in fact working on expanding the relative/absolute functionality 
with direction in upcoming releases.

Best regards,
   Monty


On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Stephen  Bennett wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I missed the beginning of this thread but is it possible that paul's
> simply asking for the same as clock face but spoken in degrees instead
> of clock style? We all understand that one o'clock could be anything
> from 12:30 to 1:30 and that it's all subject to drift etc. but that
> doesn't stop the clock face from being mighty useful. So maybe one
> o'clock could be spoken as 30 degrees. Or, in fact, in front and to the
> right, or, right front, according to user preference?
>
> Apologies if this has been already dealt with.
>
> Cheers
>
> Stephen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Paul Shelton
> Sent: Friday, 25 January 2008 2:57 a.m.
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Suggestion for Enhancement
>
>
> That's right Shawn.  I just checked out what Monty was saying and it is
> definitely an absolute heading, not  a relative heading.
>
> I think the drift won't be a problem as long as you're not right on top
> of
> the point of interest you are tracking and as long as you are not moving
> too
> slow.  Perhaps 5 mph would be a good threshold for this.
>
> Anyway, I think it's worth taking a look.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" <shawn at odyssey.cm.nu>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 6:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Suggestion for Enhancement
>
>
>> If I understand correctly the current system won't do what you want.
>> In degrees mode the numbers will be in absolute degrees, not relative
>> to your current heading. I think what you're talking about is a
>> setting to give point directions in degrees relative to the current
>> heading. This could be done but I'm not sure how accurate it would be
>> because of drift etc. but maybe it's worth a try.
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Paul Shelton wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I'll check this out.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <monty at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Suggestion for Enhancement
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>> No need to perform mathmatic calculations.  As I said before,
>>>> changing your Point Direction to "degrees", creating a Checkpoint on
>
>>>> your desired point  and pressing "5" while in Navigation  mode to
>>>> activate "Next Point" will do the trick.  For more information on
>>>> this and other functions, please read the documentation at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>   Monty
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Paul Shelton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Robbie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your input on this subject.  I guess I'm just looking
>>>>> for convenience.  I can check my heading in degrees mode and I can
>>>>> check the heading to my point of interest and do the math but it
>>>>> would be nice to not
>>>>> have to do that calculation when navigating.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like operating in degrees mode and this would just make it a bit
>>>>> nicer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> .   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Sandberg, Robert" <robert.sandberg at sap.com>
>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:27 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Suggestion for Enhancement
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Paul!
>>>>>> I don't see where the problem is. I agree that clock face
>>>>>> directions
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> not practical for sailing. But the degrees report works perfectly
> for
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> on a boat. As for in a car, it's quite enough for me to know
> something
>>>>>> is at 12:00. If it's to the left of 12:00, it'll fall away to
> 11:00
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> then 10:00 as the car approaches. If it's to the right of 12:00,
> same
>>>>>> thing on the other side. So what else do you need?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Robbie Sandberg
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Paul
>>>>>> Shelton
>>>>>> Sent: 23 January 2008 05:51
>>>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Suggestion for Enhancement
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well I guess you'd have to be paying attention but the use of the
>>>>>> words
>>>>>> "right" and "left" would be the clue that you are getting a
> relative
>>>>>> heading
>>>>>> instead of an absolute heading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's good to know that the other modes give you relative heading
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> example, with the clock face, every hour point represents a 30
>>>>>> degree swath of the pie and this could be a substantial error if
>>>>>> you're using it to aim
>>>>>> towards something.   I'm thinking of the case where you're on a
> boat
>>>>>> trying
>>>>>> to aim towards a point on shore.  I think having the granularity
> that
>>>>>> degrees provides would be very useful.  I also like the idea of
> being
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to picture where something is when traveling in the car.  If I'm
> told
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> something is at 12 o'clock, that really means it could be anywhere
>
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> 345
>>>>>> degrees to 15 degrees.  I'd just like more precision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" <shawn at odyssey.cm.nu>
>>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:02 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Suggestion for Enhancement
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you change your display to clockface this will give relative
>>>>>>> directions. The cardinal and degrees settings are absolute.
>>>>>>> Making these be
>>>>>> relative
>>>>>>> might be quite confusing unless there's some way to differentiate
>>>>>> relative
>>>>>>> headings from absolute ones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Paul Shelton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Monty,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I used loadstone this morning, I didn't have any points
>>>>>>>> checked
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> joystick would give me the nearest point in any of the four
>>>>>>>> major cardinal directions.  The information was given as the
>>>>>>>> absolute heading but
>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> looking for is the heading relative to the direction I am
>>>>>>>> currently headed. That way I don't have to know exactly which
>>>>>>>> direction I am traveling,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> just know that the point is 20 degrees to the left or 40 degrees
>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> right, etc.  It gives a better picture of where things are in
>>>>>> relation to
>>>>>>>> the direction I am traveling.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: <monty at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:10 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Suggestion for Enhancement
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A feature already exists that is similar to your description.
>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> called "next point" and I believe this is attached to the "5"
> key
>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> Navigation mode.  I can not confirm this for certain as my
>>>>>>>>> phone is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> me at the minute and I also do not have a fresh install with
>>>>>>>>> the default key-map loaded.
>>>>>>>>> In order for this function to work, you must create a
> checkpoint
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the point of interest in question; then Loadstone will return
>>>>>>>>> the nearest checkpoint in the direction of travel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>  Monty
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Paul Shelton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    I've just started using loadstone in the last couple of
>>>>>>>>>> days so
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> have much experience with it but I do have a suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When in navigation mode,  I'd like to have at least an option
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> heading to a Point of Interest expressed relative to my
>>>>>>>>>> direction
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> travel.
>>>>>>>>>> There would probably have to be some kind of speed threshold
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> not work very well when walking.  For example, if I'm heading
>>>>>>>>>> East
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> 90
>>>>>>>>>> degrees and my point of interest is at heading 110 degrees,  I
>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>>>>> that it was 20 degrees right, 2 miles to......
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you drop below the speed threshold, for instance 5 mph, you
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> revert
>>>>>>>>>> to absolute heading, or alternatively, would be told that the
>>>>>> relative
>>>>>>>>>> heading could not be calculated.  Actually, I believe the
>>>>>>>>>> proper
>>>>>> term
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the relative heading is bearing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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