[Loadstone] transportation points

Williams Family brian.williams300 at ntlworld.com
Sat Feb 23 22:01:38 GMT 2008


Hi Monty
I tried emailing you through the website but for some reason when I clicked 
on the email link, it said server is not available.
However, I am interested in offering my help with your project re 
transportation points. I don't know what help I can be but I like to know 
more about it. I'm not technically minded, no programing experience or 
knowledge along those lines, but am using Loadstone on a Nokia N70 in 
London, UK. Please contac me if i can be of any help.
Brian
email
firstup at ntlworld.com
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>   1. Re:  LoadStone and Access (Julian)
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> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:42:17 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Julian" <n1ca at arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Access
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> Hi,
>
> Having used LS on both a 6682 (2nd edition phone) and an N95 (3rd edition
> phone)  the biggest difference I've noticed is in the amount of time LS
> takes to import a database.  A database file that used to take all night
> and then some to import on the 6682 took just a little under an hour to
> import on the N95.  Needless to say I was quite happy and impressed.
> Other than that I haven't noticed any other significant differences.
>
>
> Julian
>
>
>
> Shawn Kirkpatrick
>> I'd guess the problem you'd have is the gps receiver can only have one
>> connection. If you had two receivers then things might work. As for third
>> edition phones being better, I haven't noticed much difference between my
>> n70 (second edition) and my e70 (third edition). The biggest difference 
>> is
>> the amount of memory on the phones.
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Lamar Upshaw wrote:
>>
>>> Good question! I hadn't considered trying to run them at the same time.
>>> I'll give that a shot tomorrow, although I would expect it not to work
>>> too
>>> well, because my map size causes loadstone to require a high demand on
>>> the
>>> processor, and the fact that  W F A is a bit of a memory hog in general.
>>> Add to that, the constant GPRS connection that W F A requires, and
>>> there's
>>> even more demand.  I wonder if that would work better on a newer, faster
>>> phone, running symbian third edition though?
>>>
>>> With All Respect,
>>> Upshaw, LaMar T
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Geetha Shamanna" <geetha at millernorbert.de>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Access
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Lamar,
>>>>
>>>> Do Loadstone and WFA coexist well with each other? Have you tried
>>>> switching
>>>> between Loadstone and WFA on the fly from the list of running
>>>> applications?
>>>> Does this work well?
>>>>
>>>> Geetha
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Lamar Upshaw" <lupshaw at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:37 AM
>>>> Subject: [Loadstone] LoadStone and Access
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have W F A installed on my nokia 6682, with the royaltek 2110 GPS
>>>>> receiver.  I remember that it's best for the receiver to not be pared
>>>>> when
>>>>> using it with LoadStone, but it apparently must be pared to use it
>>>>> with W
>>>>> F
>>>>> A.  Is there a way to be able to accomplish being able to use both
>>>>> programs
>>>>> with the royaltek?  Although W F A is a nice program, I have two
>>>>> important
>>>>> problems with it:
>>>>> 1. When the way finder server is down, I'm stuck! lol.  I really like
>>>>> what
>>>>> the server has to offer, but it's useless if I don't have GPRS in a
>>>>> particular area, or if the server is not functioning.
>>>>> 2. Although W F A is great for pedistriens, and passenger car riders,
>>>>> it's
>>>>> not that wonderful for bus riders. *smile*  The latest release of W F
>>>>> A
>>>>> no
>>>>> longer supports real time updates, which is a real problem when
>>>>> wanting
>>>>> to
>>>>> see what intersection you are approaching, or passing. LoadStone's
>>>>> auto
>>>>> checkpoint announcing truly comes in handy for this. While riding the
>>>>> bus,
>>>>> I
>>>>> have loadstone vibrate and announce the intersections automatically
>>>>> along
>>>>> the more popular bus routs. This way, I can hit the bell at my stops,
>>>>> and
>>>>> leave the drivers wondering how in the heck I knew that was my stop!
>>>>> lol.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for anything anyone can tell me.
>>>>>
>>>>> With All Respect,
>>>>> Upshaw, LaMar T
>>>>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:43:57 -0600
> From: "Paul Shelton" <pbs at paulshelton.com>
> Subject: [Loadstone] Distance Announcements
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
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>    I have a suggestion which I would like to run by the list and see if
> others agree.  I'm guessing this is more of an issue for those of us who 
> use
> imperial units since it is difficult to convert from yards to miles in 
> one's
> head.
>
> I'm suggesting that the change over from yards to miles should occur 
> sooner
> than the 1 mile mark.   I think it's much easier to grasp a distance of 
> .75
> miles than it is 1,320 yards.  I don't really know where the change over
> should occur but perhaps somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 to 300 
> yards.
> The other benefit of this is that it takes much les time to speak the
> distance if the number has fewer digits.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:42:40 -0000
> From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Unable to import a POI collection
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
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> Sean,
>
> I uploaded the sample two lines that Petr sent in his initial query into a
> .CSV file. I imported it into loadstone and it compiled normally giving 
> the
> usual messages of the successful import as "2 entries added, 0 duplicates
> ignored, etc.
> I was surprised to find that the orientation keys reported "no points 
> found"
> in exploration mode.
>
> I tried varying the size of the ID field, removing unprintable characters
> from the quoted name string, changing the priority and accuracy values 
> and,
> finally, changing the user id from Petr's to my own. None of these changes
> made any difference, even though the import process reported a successful
> creation of the compacted database each time.
>
> Have you any ideas to explain what might be happening?
>
> As a test of my system I successfully imported my own database files and 
> was
> able to locate points found there. This reassured me that the loadstone
> program is functioning correctly.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>
> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>
>
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Petr Reh?k
> Sent: 21 February 2008 13:27
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Unable to import a POI collection
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> i suppose this is not the case. Below is a small excerpt from my CSV file:
>
> table,point
>
> name,latitude,longitude,accuracy,satellites,priority,userid,id
>
> "CZ-Ambasada -
> Afgh?nist?n420233544228",501165700,144233300,2,4,2,62015,888256260
>
> "CZ-Ambasada -
> Alb?nie420233370594",501019800,144112300,2,4,2,62015,888256261
>
> Just a note to the quoted text: originally there was a greater-than sign
> before the number (e.g. >420233544228?, but POI Converter removed it. Why?
> What other characters are being removed and how to prevent their removal?
>
> Note to the Database Reprocessor tool: well, I can use it, but what it 
> could
> do to make my file more valid? Moreover, if there was an error in the 
> file,
> it should have aborted always at the same line number, but why does it 
> abort
> at random lines (first 884, second 843, third 2592 etc.)?
>
> If nothing helped, can I convert the CSV data straight into the binary
> format on my PC? There were (and still are) similar problems with 
> converting
> CSV files to binary databases in the CellTrack application, but 
> fortunately,
> CellTrack can make use of various internal database formats.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Petr Rehak
>
>
>
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O
> Meadhra
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:25 PM
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Unable to import a POI collection
>
>
>
> Hello, Petr ,
>
>
>
> Have you checked to see if your CSV file has commas after the two words
> "table,point"?
>
>
>
> I was caught out with this myself for ages until I realised that the
> conversion of a file from text to CSV keeps the column position and marks
> column boundaries with a comma (",").
>
>
>
> the common result is:
>
> "Table,Point,,,,,,,,"
>
>
>
> If this is the case, you will need to edit the actual .CSV version of the
> file to remove the trailing commas on the first line.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>
> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>
>
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Rob Melchers
> Sent: 21 February 2008 07:31
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Unable to import a POI collection
>
> Hi,
>
> Try running the files through the Database reprocessor before sending them
> to the phone. Make sure that each file starts with the two header lines
> (table, point, etc.)
>
> Rob
>
> At 2/21/2008, you wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> sorry for a high frequency of my messages, still saying "unable to...", 
> but
> I am still a newbie to LoadStone GPS and haven't come across any written
> comments on my issues yet. So what next?
> I tried to generate a database import file via the POI Converter on the
> LoadStone GPS website and all went OK. First, I prepared a CSV file, split
> into multiple parts as I do have a 30000 POIs database from the Czech
> Republic and would like to use it. As descriptions contain non-english
> characters, I converted the CSV file to UTF-8 prior to converting. Then I
> ran the POI Converter and downloaded a TXT file. Then I placed it into the
> ImportExport folder and tried to import it into the default and my own
> database, no luck either. It randomly throws an error message saying
> something like "abort importing on line xxxx, possibly corrupted file". 
> The
> line number is quite random, sometimes it is able to complete only 5%,
> sometimes 20%, but I have never managed to end up with a complete database
> yet. What might be the problem? I even tried to mute MobileSpeak or set a
> screensaver delay to 30 minutes, should it cause a problem. Any ideas?
> Using LoadStone GPS 0.69 with Nokia 6681 and MobileSpeak 2.03.
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Petr Rehak
>
>
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