[Loadstone] OpenStreetMap converter

Shawn Kirkpatrick shawn at loadstone-gps.com
Tue Aug 12 22:47:34 BST 2008

I think the main problem with sharing data between loadstone and osm is the 
different database formats. Since loadstone is doing all it's processing on 
the phone we needed a format that was as small and fast as possible. I'll 
have to look at the osm files, maybe they can be processed faster than the 
current system but that'll require a database rewrite.
The best thing we could do at the moment would be to have the point share 
somehow keep in sync with osm if we find that the data is useful for 
loadstone. Unfortunately this means two projects with a lot of the same data 
but I'm not sure how else we'd meet the requirements for loadstone.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:

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> monty at loadstone-gps.com wrote:
> | Hi Robert,
> |
> | Since we're all about sharing and openness we're always interested in
> ways
> | of working better with other projects and figuring out ways to better the
> | common cause.
> |
> | In my mind Loadstone (and it's PointShare Exchange) use a subset of data
> | which differs from the objective or type of data the OSM project uses.
>  An
> | example is the nature of the GPX files containing user defined road
> | segmented data where as Loadstone/PSE uses Point of Interest data.  (a
> | specific reference point).  In some cases we've managed to perform
> | calculations on road map data to produce interesections in the form of
> | Points of Interest.  (Northern North America).  This is not to say that
> | each project's data can't complement the other and we are currently
> | looking into generating intersection points from the OSM data.
> |
> | Another reason that may make adding Loadstone/PSE data to the OSM
> database
> | a bit tricky is the licencing issues around some of the datasets
> Loadstone
> | uses.  I'm not saying the agreements do not jive (I've not looked at the
> | OSM terms) but I'm saying one would have to be careful.
> |
> | At the end of the day there's nothing stopping anyone from taking
> | Loadstone/PSE data and importing anywhere they want to!
> I don't think there is any data that would be valid to share in
> pointshare exchange that wouldn't also be valid to share in
> OpenStreetMap. There are probably things in OpenStreetMap that aren't
> useful to Loadstone users, but filtering those things out is not a problem.
> If I upload points I find to PointShare, then I reach loadstone users.
> If up upload them to OSM, I reach a much wider audience, hopefully
> including all LoadStone users. PointShare could be useful as a
> repository of external datasets that are useful but not compatible with
> OSM's license.
> For copying data from PointShare to OSM, you must agree to share the
> data under CC-by-sa. Details of what that means are here:
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/
> They are planning to move to a different license that is more
> appropriate for large databases of information, rather than individual
> works, but that is still in progress.
> Robert (Jamie) Munro
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