[Loadstone] points share exchange

monty at loadstone-gps.com monty at loadstone-gps.com
Wed Apr 30 22:52:13 BST 2008


Hello,

Yes, the Point Share exchange is relocating today and is expected to be 
back on-line tomorrow I believe.

Sorry an announcement wasn't made to reflect this earlier.

Monty


On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Williams Family wrote:

> Hi
> have tried to log onto the points share exchange but get the "website not
> available" notice. Is there a problem?
> Brian W.
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>>   1. Re:  Exported data (Cearbhall O Meadhra)
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>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:07:17 +0100
>> From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Message-ID: <001201c8aa99$38e8d3c0$0701a8c0 at ProjectIDD1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Jacob,
>>
>> Why not try now? I am at my desk and ready and willing to open a
>> discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>> Cearbhall
>>
>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>
>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
>> Sent: 30 April 2008 08:30
>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>
>> Only problem was that I only read this this morning - sorry.
>>
>> Will try remember to keep my skype online, and we'll see from there.
>>
>> FWIW, I'm here in South Africa, and we're in the GMT+2 timezone.
>>
>> Stay well
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> Blind Biker
>> Skype: BlindZA
>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>
>>
>>> Jacob,
>>>
>>> I think we should try spending some time together on this. Would you care
>>> to
>>> join me in a Skype chat right away?
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Cearbhall
>>>
>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>
>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
>>> Sent: 29 April 2008 22:48
>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>
>>> I don't get any crashes when adding points, and both of my phones seem to
>>> act the same in terms of trying to manually add new points.
>>>
>>> Also, if I consistently got no result as such then, fair enough, I would
>>> assume it was specifically a mistake I was making, but since it does in
>>> fact
>>> work some of the time while I make sure I try perform the same actions,
>>> using the same data, I really don't have a clue what's actually causing
>>> it,
>>> since the only things I can think of that are in fact changing are things
>>> like time of day, cell info, phone connection levels, GPS status etc.
>>> etc.,
>>> and none of those really make sense with regard to interfering with
>>> manual
>>> point entry, so who knows...
>>>
>>> Stay well
>>>
>>> Jacob Kruger
>>> Blind Biker
>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" <shawn at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:00 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>
>>>
>>>> I doubt there'll be that kind of logging system any time soon. This would
>>>> add quite a bit of code overhead. There really aren't that many steps to
>>>> adding a point thoe. If it got an error writing to the database you'd
>>>> just
>>>> get a crash. The only time a point won't write anything is if all the
>>>> information you enter is the same as an existing point. If the
>>>> coordinates
>>>> are the same but other information is different then it'll do an update
>>>> of
>>>> the existing entry. I assume this isn't the case.
>>>> Since this is only happening to one person I'm thinking it's some
>>>> strange
>>>> combination of software/hardware/firmware that's interacting in a
>>>> strange
>>>> way rather than a loadstone bug. Either that or a wrong key being
>>>> pressed
>>>> at
>>>> the time of point entry but there's nothing in the softkey 1 menu
>>>> that'll
>>>> cause an abort, the only key that should do that is softkey 2 for
>>>> cancel.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Cearbhall O Meadhra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jacob,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it is worth solving this problem so that we can all learn from
>>>>> it
>>>>> and maybe spare someone else the headache!
>>>>>
>>>>> Since there is no logging system in the program (Could that be added
>>>>> in,
>>>>> Monty?) Would it be possible for you to manually track the sequence of
>>>>> activities before you make the entry that works and also the sequence
>>>>> of
>>>>> activities before the entry that does not work? This would mean noting
>>>>> all
>>>>> the sequences for a few days just in case you can trap the one that
>>>>> works.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cearbhall
>>>>>
>>>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
>>>>> Sent: 28 April 2008 13:10
>>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>>>
>>>>> Not quite since, when I tested it again this morning, it again allowed
>>>>> me
>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>> add one test entry (figures I just tested with), so it's almost like
>>>>> it'll
>>>>> let me do something every now and then, but not consistently in any way
>>>>> (good or bad), and therefore, unfortunately not reliable as such since
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> never really sure when it's going to work, and when not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just pretty sure that it's not specifically something I'm doing wrong
>>>>> since
>>>>> I definitely carry out the same procedures and have generally used the
>>>>> same
>>>>> info/data when it's working and when it's not, so who knows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like I've said before, I wish there was some form of logging so that I
>>>>> could
>>>>> at least find a reason for it to sometimes work and sometimes not since
>>>>> it's
>>>>> literally the same data/input that sometimes works, and sometimes not -
>>>>> who
>>>>> knows...
>>>>>
>>>>> Stay well
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>>> Blind Biker
>>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:51 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, memory seems to be fine and file space seems to be fine. From your
>>>>>> description it seems as though you have a maximum limit of two
>>>>>> entries,
>>>>>> would you agree? As if there were a control in Loadstone that limits
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> two entries?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cearbhall
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
>>>>>> Sent: 28 April 2008 06:34
>>>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've repeatedly checked memory available, and both phone memory and
>>>>>> memory
>>>>>> card each have over 2Mb free, and I've tried installing on both of
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> FWIW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, FWIW, in order to type in a minus sign, -, you simply press the
>>>>>> asterisk (*) key twice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, just fiddling around this morning, I entered a random value
>>>>>> (lat: -26.123456 and long: 28.123456) and it again saves it, but
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> again if I try enter another point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My problem definitely isn't due to data entry issues or memory space -
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>> I've got what we call a tokelosh (evil little gnome) fiddling while
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> 'looking' - LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stay well
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>>>> Blind Biker
>>>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
>>>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:02 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacob,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I see that the cell data is only generated when you save a point
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> hoof - i.e. when the GPS system is sending the data into Loadstone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I have managed to generate a third entry, the problem you are
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> not likely to be Loadstone
>>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The next thing that comes to my mind is whether Loadstone has enough
>>>>>>> memory.
>>>>>>> Have you checked the available virtual memory already? The stored
>>>>>>> memory
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> More likely to be the problem than the virtual memory. What available
>>>>>>> memory
>>>>>>> have you on either the hard drive or memory card? Again, if either
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> corrupted, you might not have enough space to write the file to
>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> hard drive or the memory card.  Could it be that the dataset cannot
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> added
>>>>>>> to? Would Loadstone report an error if the memory storage was too
>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> take another entry?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cearbhall
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob
>>>>>>> Kruger
>>>>>>> Sent: 27 April 2008 21:12
>>>>>>> To: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
>>>>>>> Cc: Loadstone mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just went into the options menu, file, export, export all data and it
>>>>>>> went
>>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe this is actually a hint relating to what's causing the problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stay well
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>>>>> Blind Biker
>>>>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <president at idd.ie>
>>>>>>> To: "'Jacob Kruger'" <jacobk at cknet.co.za>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:15 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Exported data
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacob,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have just realised, your dataset does not show any cell data.
>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> be a second table like this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> table cell
>>>>>>>> id mcc mnc locationareacode cellid userid name
>>>>>>>> 1160083245 272 5 1100 196673864 39208 "home"
>>>>>>>> 1160086322 272 5 1100 196673863 39208 ""
>>>>>>>> 1160151974 272 5 1100 196673866 39208 ""
>>>>>>>> 1160152461 272 5 1100 196673867 39208 ""
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What procedure did you follow for exporting the default dataset?
>>>>>>>> Could
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> have chosen an option that isolated the satellite table from the
>>>>>>>> rest
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> sheet?
>>>>>>>> only?
>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cearbhall
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Jacob Kruger [mailto:jacobk at cknet.co.za]
>>>>>>>> Sent: 25 April 2008 13:20
>>>>>>>> To: president at idd.ie
>>>>>>>> Subject: Exported data
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here you go...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Simply did an export and then sent it originally from phone using
>>>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stay well
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>>>>>> Blind Biker
>>>>>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>>>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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