[Loadstone] Exported data

Cearbhall O Meadhra cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie
Wed Apr 30 09:07:17 BST 2008


Jacob,

Why not try now? I am at my desk and ready and willing to open a discussion.
 


All the best,
 
 
Cearbhall 
 
"Good design enables - Bad design disables"
 
Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
 

-----Original Message-----
From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
[mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: 30 April 2008 08:30
To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data

Only problem was that I only read this this morning - sorry.

Will try remember to keep my skype online, and we'll see from there.

FWIW, I'm here in South Africa, and we're in the GMT+2 timezone.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data


> Jacob,
>
> I think we should try spending some time together on this. Would you care 
> to
> join me in a Skype chat right away?
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>
> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
> Sent: 29 April 2008 22:48
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>
> I don't get any crashes when adding points, and both of my phones seem to
> act the same in terms of trying to manually add new points.
>
> Also, if I consistently got no result as such then, fair enough, I would
> assume it was specifically a mistake I was making, but since it does in 
> fact
> work some of the time while I make sure I try perform the same actions,
> using the same data, I really don't have a clue what's actually causing 
> it,
> since the only things I can think of that are in fact changing are things
> like time of day, cell info, phone connection levels, GPS status etc. 
> etc.,
> and none of those really make sense with regard to interfering with manual
> point entry, so who knows...
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shawn Kirkpatrick" <shawn at loadstone-gps.com>
> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>
>
>>I doubt there'll be that kind of logging system any time soon. This would
>> add quite a bit of code overhead. There really aren't that many steps to
>> adding a point thoe. If it got an error writing to the database you'd 
>> just
>> get a crash. The only time a point won't write anything is if all the
>> information you enter is the same as an existing point. If the 
>> coordinates
>> are the same but other information is different then it'll do an update 
>> of
>> the existing entry. I assume this isn't the case.
>> Since this is only happening to one person I'm thinking it's some strange
>> combination of software/hardware/firmware that's interacting in a strange
>> way rather than a loadstone bug. Either that or a wrong key being pressed
>> at
>> the time of point entry but there's nothing in the softkey 1 menu that'll
>> cause an abort, the only key that should do that is softkey 2 for cancel.
>>
>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Cearbhall O Meadhra wrote:
>>
>>> Jacob,
>>>
>>> I think it is worth solving this problem so that we can all learn from 
>>> it
>>> and maybe spare someone else the headache!
>>>
>>> Since there is no logging system in the program (Could that be added in,
>>> Monty?) Would it be possible for you to manually track the sequence of
>>> activities before you make the entry that works and also the sequence of
>>> activities before the entry that does not work? This would mean noting
>>> all
>>> the sequences for a few days just in case you can trap the one that
>>> works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Cearbhall
>>>
>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>
>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
>>> Sent: 28 April 2008 13:10
>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>
>>> Not quite since, when I tested it again this morning, it again allowed 
>>> me
>
>>> to
>>> add one test entry (figures I just tested with), so it's almost like
>>> it'll
>>> let me do something every now and then, but not consistently in any way
>>> (good or bad), and therefore, unfortunately not reliable as such since
>>> I'm
>>> never really sure when it's going to work, and when not.
>>>
>>> Just pretty sure that it's not specifically something I'm doing wrong
>>> since
>>> I definitely carry out the same procedures and have generally used the
>>> same
>>> info/data when it's working and when it's not, so who knows.
>>>
>>> Like I've said before, I wish there was some form of logging so that I
>>> could
>>> at least find a reason for it to sometimes work and sometimes not since
>>> it's
>>> literally the same data/input that sometimes works, and sometimes not -
>>> who
>>> knows...
>>>
>>> Stay well
>>>
>>> Jacob Kruger
>>> Blind Biker
>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jacob,
>>>>
>>>> So, memory seems to be fine and file space seems to be fine. From your
>>>> description it seems as though you have a maximum limit of two entries,
>>>> would you agree? As if there were a control in Loadstone that limits 
>>>> you
>>>> to
>>>> two entries?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cearbhall
>>>>
>>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>>
>>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
>>>> Sent: 28 April 2008 06:34
>>>> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>>
>>>> Ok.
>>>>
>>>> I've repeatedly checked memory available, and both phone memory and
>>>> memory
>>>> card each have over 2Mb free, and I've tried installing on both of them
>>>> FWIW.
>>>>
>>>> Also, FWIW, in order to type in a minus sign, -, you simply press the
>>>> asterisk (*) key twice.
>>>>
>>>> Again, just fiddling around this morning, I entered a random value
>>>> (lat: -26.123456 and long: 28.123456) and it again saves it, but that's
>>>> it
>>>> again if I try enter another point.
>>>>
>>>> My problem definitely isn't due to data entry issues or memory space -
>>>> maybe
>>>> I've got what we call a tokelosh (evil little gnome) fiddling while I'm
>>>> not
>>>> 'looking' - LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Stay well
>>>>
>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>> Blind Biker
>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra at idd.ie>
>>>> To: <loadstone at loadstone-gps.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:02 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jacob,
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I see that the cell data is only generated when you save a point 
>>>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>> hoof - i.e. when the GPS system is sending the data into Loadstone.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I have managed to generate a third entry, the problem you are 
>>>>> having
>>>>> is
>>>>> not likely to be Loadstone
>>>>> itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> The next thing that comes to my mind is whether Loadstone has enough
>>>>> memory.
>>>>> Have you checked the available virtual memory already? The stored
>>>>> memory
>>>>> is
>>>>> More likely to be the problem than the virtual memory. What available
>>>>> memory
>>>>> have you on either the hard drive or memory card? Again, if either was
>>>>> corrupted, you might not have enough space to write the file to either
>>>>> the
>>>>> hard drive or the memory card.  Could it be that the dataset cannot be
>>>>> added
>>>>> to? Would Loadstone report an error if the memory storage was too full
>>>>> to
>>>>> take another entry?
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cearbhall
>>>>>
>>>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
>>>>> Sent: 27 April 2008 21:12
>>>>> To: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
>>>>> Cc: Loadstone mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Exported data
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just went into the options menu, file, export, export all data and it
>>>>> went
>>>>> from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe this is actually a hint relating to what's causing the problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Stay well
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>>> Blind Biker
>>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <president at idd.ie>
>>>>> To: "'Jacob Kruger'" <jacobk at cknet.co.za>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: Exported data
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have just realised, your dataset does not show any cell data. There
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be a second table like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> table cell
>>>>>> id mcc mnc locationareacode cellid userid name
>>>>>> 1160083245 272 5 1100 196673864 39208 "home"
>>>>>> 1160086322 272 5 1100 196673863 39208 ""
>>>>>> 1160151974 272 5 1100 196673866 39208 ""
>>>>>> 1160152461 272 5 1100 196673867 39208 ""
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What procedure did you follow for exporting the default dataset? 
>>>>>> Could
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> have chosen an option that isolated the satellite table from the rest
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> sheet?
>>>>>> only?
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cearbhall
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at colibri.ie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Jacob Kruger [mailto:jacobk at cknet.co.za]
>>>>>> Sent: 25 April 2008 13:20
>>>>>> To: president at idd.ie
>>>>>> Subject: Exported data
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here you go...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simply did an export and then sent it originally from phone using
>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stay well
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacob Kruger
>>>>>> Blind Biker
>>>>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>>>>> '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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