[Loadstone] Built-in GPS

monty at loadstone-gps.com monty at loadstone-gps.com
Mon Jun 25 16:42:40 BST 2007

Hello Cearbhall,

I can't personally comment on the quality of the GPS receivers built in to 
some of Nokia's handsets (such as the N95) as I haven't had the pleasure 
of getting my hands on one but I have read that the GPS receiver on-board 
the N95 is not using the SIRF Star III chipset.  In fact, I have heard 
rumour that it uses SIRF Star II.

At the moment Loadstone does not support these on-board GPS receivers 
though we hope to include support in the near future.

Best regards,

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Cearbhall O Meadhra wrote:

> Dear all,
> I have been asked about the GPS receivers in the latest Nokia phones.
> Sighted users say that they are good and work well. Has anyone any
> experience of these phones with Talks and loadstone or any other guidance
> application?
> All the best,
> Cearbhall
> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra at projectidd.ie
>  _____
> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com] On Behalf Of Rob Melchers
> Sent: 24 June 2007 18:55
> To: loadstone at loadstone-gps.com
> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] MTK chipset, was Re: royaltek rbt 2110
> Hallo Jurg,
> When using programs like Wayfinder or Trekker this software wants to put you
> in a street, not on top of a building. If you're put in the wrong street,
> the faulty reading is as faulty as the distance between the street you are
> in and the street the software thinks you are in. So, if these streets are
> seperated by 40 meters, you're off by 40 meters, even though your receiver
> may not be more off than 15 meters. When using Loadstone I do not experience
> faults bigger than 20 meters in urban canyons and I'm afraid that's what we
> have to live with using GPS as an orientational tool. In the area I live in
> (a mix of low and high buildings seperated by open areas) accuracy usually
> is between 10 and 15 meters. In good conditions this can improve to between
> 5 and 10 meters, but that's about it. Again I would like to warn for
> receivers that use averaging models and 'improvements after reception'. So
> far these improvements have had no influence on the kind of accuracy we are
> looking for.
> Rob
> At 6/24/2007, you wrote:
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> hi Rob,
> ; In theory, MPR is responsible for a plus minus 3 meters degradation of
> accuracy
> is this what you see in practice as well?
> I'd would say accuracy is degradated up to 40 meters in practice.
> I made some testing with another software which announces me in realtime on
> which street i am.
> Sometimes, on the same street, it gives me a parallel street in about 40
> meters, but as this happens not all the time, it cannot be a problem of map.
> Hence, i'd say it's a problem of reflexions.
> Jürg
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