[Loadstone] Hi Monty, are we using the same program?

Shawn Kirkpatrick shawn at odyssey.cm.nu
Sat Sep 9 07:23:01 BST 2006

It sounds like you need to start at the beginning to get things up and 
running so I'll try to explain. You obviously have the program installed and 
running on the phone and I assume you have a gps receiver. Loadstone will 
work without one but won't be as useful.
When you get loadstone it has no mapping data so you'll want to get some. 
The best way to do this is to use the point share site. Depending on where 
you are there might be lots of data available or maybe none at all. You can 
also enter points either by marking them when you're at the location and 
have a gps signal or by entering a point manually. There's documentation on 
all this on the site.
Once you have points in the database then you can create routes if you want. 
The primary use for a route is to have points announced as you approach. The 
route creation guide is a bit brief but correct. A route is the same thing 
as a point list. Once you have some points marked then the route mode option 
will be available. The menus in loadstone can change depending on the 
As for editing the text files that loadstone exports, you have to be careful 
since the program is quite particular about the file format. An exported 
database file isn't the same as a point list file.
Loadstone isn't really that hard to use, but like any other program you have 
to follow the right procedures to get the desired effect.


On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Aedan O'Meara wrote:

> Hi Monty,
> I don't know what program you are using but the one I downloaded doesn't
> have a "define point"option under exploration mode. Furthrmore it only
> offers me a save option under "Enter point" option under Exploration
> mode.
> I am still puzzled as to how I "Move myself virtually to the point I
> want to edit" as you describe.
> Keys 1 and 9 give me no information as you describe.
> Secondly, I have read your documentation on making routes several times
> and nowhere can I start doing this as there is no obvious start in this
> procedure. It refers to going into "route mode". Nowhere am I offered
> this under any menu.
> Equally, I can see no way to make points lists.
> Furthermore, I exported your database to an ascii file and using my
> flash card reader on my PC I edited this file. Do you think that I could
> re-import it into the database? Of course not! I will now try deleting
> your database file and then re-import the ascii file and hopefully it
> will make a new database file of it.
> I also tried to load under your "load points list" but this just crashed
> the program out to the phone menu.
> I am using a Nokia 6680 with 512 mem card.
> I am using computers since 1984 and have written several projects in
> visual basic, no small feat for a totally blind person, but I have never
> met a piece of software that is so obscure as this. It is not very
> sensible to make it so difficult to mark and have a point announced in
> advance, please remember that very few blind people are computer
> programmers and are generally average punters when it comes to using
> your software.
> You might look at that ingenious package "minigps" which comes with
> Talks. They make editing and creating lists so easy.
> As I said yesterday, your package is engineering wise exactly what I
> want if only I could drive
> it.
> Still trying,
> Aedan.
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