[Loadstone] adding POIS from POI factory.com

Shawn Kirkpatrick shawn at odyssey.cm.nu
Thu Nov 30 21:38:45 GMT 2006


You may want to always include the table headers. Even if this is added to 
an existing database file it'll still work. On the other hand a file without 
a propper header won't work at all.

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Rob Melchers wrote:

> Priority is set to 2, next to userID there's a checkbox, check it to get the 
> database header for making a 'stand alone' database of the generated points. 
> Leave it unchecked if you want to insert the data in an existing database.
>
> Radius:
> Large has a radius of 1 degree, Normal is 0.2 degree and Small is 0.05 
> degree. 1 degree of latitude is 111 km. 1 degree of longitude is 111 km at 
> the equater, and 0 degrees at the poles. Helps?
>
> Rob
>
> At 11/29/2006, you wrote:
>> Hi again Rob,
>> How is the radius derived? I'm trying to figure out what large, normal
>> and small means in terms of miles or kilometers or degrees or what
>> ever. :-)
>> Thanks!
>> Rusty
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/29/06, slery <slerythema at insightbb.com> wrote:
>> > No, it is another piece of software for the phone.  I was just using the
>> > licensing as an example of how we could get around the problem without 
>> doing
>> > anything illegal or getting the loadstone people in trouble.
>> >
>> > Cindy
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>> > [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com]On Behalf Of Rusty Perez
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:21 PM
>> > To: General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program
>> > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] adding POIS from POI factory.com
>> >
>> >
>> > Cindy, Is this also a gps type of product?
>> > Thanks!
>> > Rusty
>> >
>> > On 11/28/06, slery <slerythema at insightbb.com> wrote:
>> > > Yes, that sounds helpful.  I understand by the license that we have to 
>> use
>> > > the information for our personal use.  I am using another piece of
>> > software
>> > > I bought from a sight.  They cannot convert some things freely 
>> available
>> > but
>> > > there is a convert that works with the information that is available.
>> > What
>> > > they have done is put a note on their website recommending the 
>> conversion
>> > if
>> > > certain data is not working as optimally as desired and then they 
>> provide
>> > a
>> > > link to the site to get the converter.  They are not converting the 
>> data
>> > for
>> > > us.  We have to do that but they provide all the instructions for doing 
>> so
>> > > including the optimal settings to use when using the converter.
>> > >
>> > > Something like that for POI factory would be great.
>> > >
>> > > Cindy
>> > >   -----Original Message-----
>> > >   From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>> > > [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com]On Behalf Of Rob Melchers
>> > >   Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:05 PM
>> > >   To: General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program
>> > >   Subject: Re: [Loadstone] adding POIS from POI factory.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >   the "Terms of Use" of poi-factory:
>> > >
>> > >   "You may load location data obtained from this web site into a GPS
>> > > navigation system only for your own personal use. You may not otherwise
>> > copy
>> > > or distribute any materials from this web site, including User
>> > Submissions.
>> > > You may not create any derivative works based on materials obtained 
>> from
>> > > this web site."
>> > >
>> > >   This means, that you may convert the contents of a .cvs file 
>> downloaded
>> > > from poi-factory to the Loadstone GPS format, as long as you don't 
>> upload
>> > > this data to the Points Share Exchange web site, but only use it for 
>> your
>> > > own purposes.
>> > >
>> > >   I can write an on-line tool to do the conversion, that is, if all 
>> .cvs
>> > > files have the same format. I've downloaded two, they were the same
>> > format.
>> > > The option to include only points in a certain area is possible as long 
>> as
>> > > you know the coordinates of your location. You also need your user ID 
>> as
>> > > generated by Loadstone GPS (you can find this in any exported Loadstone
>> > > database file.). Finally, you have to be able to insert the generated 
>> data
>> > > into an existing database file. Let me know if this would be helpfull.
>> > >
>> > >   Rob
>> > >
>> > >   At 11/28/2006, you wrote:
>> > >
>> > >     If this info is freely available from the government, then could we
>> > >     find a different place from which to get it so as not to use the
>> > >     downloads from POI factory?
>> > >
>> > >     How do you folks convert files when we send them to you? I sent one 
>> to
>> > >     Monty a few weeks ago and he was able to convert it.
>> > >     Also, if a converter were to be written, would it be possible to
>> > >     include a routine to pull out only relevant points, such as those 
>> in
>> > >     my county or 25 miles around me?
>> > >
>> > >     On 11/27/06, Shawn Kirkpatrick <shawn at odyssey.cm.nu> wrote:
>> > >     > There's currently no converter to do this as far as I know. Does
>> > > anyone out
>> > >     > there want to write one?
>> > >     >
>> > >     > On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, slery wrote:
>> > >     >
>> > >     > > How would you convert the data?  Is there currently a software
>> > > available
>> > >     > to
>> > >     > > do this?
>> > >     > >
>> > >     > > Cindy
>> > >     > >
>> > >     > > -----Original Message-----
>> > >     > > From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>> > >     > > [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com]On Behalf Of Shawn
>> > >     > > Kirkpatrick
>> > >     > > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:36 PM
>> > >     > > To: General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program
>> > >     > > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] adding POIS from POI factory.com
>> > >     > >
>> > >     > >
>> > >     > > I've read the terms of use for poifactory.com and it doesn't 
>> look
>> > we
>> > > can
>> > >     > > include these as part of the point share exchange site. You 
>> could
>> > > use the
>> > >     > > data for your personal system thoe, you'd just need a converter
>> > for
>> > > the
>> > >     > > files. Kind of stupid since the data is technically free but 
>> the
>> > > license
>> > >     > > they have it under is somewhat restrictive.
>> > >     > >
>> > >     > > On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Rusty Perez wrote:
>> > >     > >
>> > >     > >> Hi Monty and Shawn, a while back I asked you folks about 
>> adding
>> > > some
>> > >     > >> pois from POI factory. I don't have any way of converting the
>> > > files,
>> > >     > >> but I am very interested in helping to incorporate these pois 
>> in
>> > to
>> > >     > >> the database. They include tons of stuff we'd be interested 
>> in,
>> > > most
>> > >     > >> importantly hospitals and clinics, but also parks, churches,
>> > names
>> > > of
>> > >     > >> developments ETC. Please let me know if there's anything I can 
>> do
>> > > to
>> > >     > >> help these items be included in to the database.
>> > >     > >> The main problem is converting them to something which can be
>> > > uploaded
>> > >     > >> to the database.
>> > >     > >>
>> > >     > >> Thanks!
>> > >     > >> Rusty
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