[Loadstone] adding POIS from POI factory.com

Shawn Kirkpatrick shawn at odyssey.cm.nu
Thu Nov 30 02:06:51 GMT 2006


One thing you may want to change in your converter is to set the priority 
value to 2. This will mark the points as restricted so they don't end up 
being exported to the general public.

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Rob Melchers wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A beta version of the POI-Factory .csv converter is at:
> http://www.rmpro-hosting.com/loadstone/poifact.php
>
> It asks for your UserID. Look at the lines in a working Loadstone database. 
> The last two numbers (seperated by comma's) are the userid and the id 
> numbers. Use the userid number (and not the id or your e-mail address). The 
> lat/lon fields can be left blank for the moment, I'm still working on the 
> radius option.
>
> Switch 'forms mode' off to find the 'browse' button and find the .csv file 
> that you have downloaded. Press submit.
>
> Copy the part between the 'blockquotes' on the result pages and paste that in 
> an existing database, or create a new one (remember to put the first two 
> lines of a working database at the top of the file when making a new 
> database).
>
> Have fun!
>
> Rob
>
> At 11/29/2006, you wrote:
>> Yes, that sounds helpful.  I understand by the license that we have to use 
>> the information for our personal use.  I am using another piece of software 
>> I bought from a sight.  They cannot convert some things freely available 
>> but there is a convert that works with the information that is available. 
>> What they have done is put a note on their website recommending the 
>> conversion if certain data is not working as optimally as desired and then 
>> they provide a link to the site to get the converter.  They are not 
>> converting the data for us.  We have to do that but they provide all the 
>> instructions for doing so including the optimal settings to use when using 
>> the converter.
>> 
>> Something like that for POI factory would be great.
>> 
>> Cindy
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com 
>> [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com]On Behalf Of Rob Melchers
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:05 PM
>> To: General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program
>> Subject: Re: [Loadstone] adding POIS from POI factory.com
>> 
>> the "Terms of Use" of poi-factory:
>> 
>> "You may load location data obtained from this web site into a GPS 
>> navigation system only for your own personal use. You may not otherwise 
>> copy or distribute any materials from this web site, including User 
>> Submissions. You may not create any derivative works based on materials 
>> obtained from this web site."
>> 
>> This means, that you may convert the contents of a .cvs file downloaded 
>> from poi-factory to the Loadstone GPS format, as long as you don't upload 
>> this data to the Points Share Exchange web site, but only use it for your 
>> own purposes.
>> 
>> I can write an on-line tool to do the conversion, that is, if all .cvs 
>> files have the same format. I've downloaded two, they were the same format. 
>> The option to include only points in a certain area is possible as long as 
>> you know the coordinates of your location. You also need your user ID as 
>> generated by Loadstone GPS (you can find this in any exported Loadstone 
>> database file.). Finally, you have to be able to insert the generated data 
>> into an existing database file. Let me know if this would be helpfull.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> At 11/28/2006, you wrote:
>>> If this info is freely available from the government, then could we
>>> find a different place from which to get it so as not to use the
>>> downloads from POI factory?
>>> 
>>> How do you folks convert files when we send them to you? I sent one to
>>> Monty a few weeks ago and he was able to convert it.
>>> Also, if a converter were to be written, would it be possible to
>>> include a routine to pull out only relevant points, such as those in
>>> my county or 25 miles around me?
>>> 
>>> On 11/27/06, Shawn Kirkpatrick <shawn at odyssey.cm.nu> wrote:
>>> > There's currently no converter to do this as far as I know. Does anyone 
>>> out
>>> > there want to write one?
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, slery wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > How would you convert the data?  Is there currently a software 
>>> available
>>> > to
>>> > > do this?
>>> > >
>>> > > Cindy
>>> > >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
>>> > > [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com]On Behalf Of Shawn
>>> > > Kirkpatrick
>>> > > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:36 PM
>>> > > To: General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program
>>> > > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] adding POIS from POI factory.com
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I've read the terms of use for poifactory.com and it doesn't look we 
>>> can
>>> > > include these as part of the point share exchange site. You could use 
>>> the
>>> > > data for your personal system thoe, you'd just need a converter for 
>>> the
>>> > > files. Kind of stupid since the data is technically free but the 
>>> license
>>> > > they have it under is somewhat restrictive.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Rusty Perez wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Hi Monty and Shawn, a while back I asked you folks about adding some
>>> > >> pois from POI factory. I don't have any way of converting the files,
>>> > >> but I am very interested in helping to incorporate these pois in to
>>> > >> the database. They include tons of stuff we'd be interested in, most
>>> > >> importantly hospitals and clinics, but also parks, churches, names of
>>> > >> developments ETC. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to
>>> > >> help these items be included in to the database.
>>> > >> The main problem is converting them to something which can be 
>>> uploaded
>>> > >> to the database.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks!
>>> > >> Rusty
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