[Loadstone] Navigation mode gets me confused.

Ari Moisio arimo at netsonic.fi
Thu Nov 23 07:29:02 GMT 2006


  I don't find it confusing at all. If loadstone tells point x is 50 meters 
eas to my current position or point x is 50 meters at 12 o'clock.

  It is much more confusing when gps losts  it's idea of heading and starts 
giving random directions with clockface.

  i Know quite well how to change direction notification but i do not want 
to do this every time i  stop or start walking.

  One possible solution is to use joystick for relative directions and 
keypad for cardinal directions. There are currently many  seldom used
functions buried in the navigation mode keypad commands; for example 
vertical accuracy, gps   date & time,  altitude,    lon & lat coordinates 
witch have  not much use in real navigation. Also gsm cell information is 
not so important when gps fix is available.

  Speed and heading are important to know when walking, also direction and 
distance to certain points.

  I would also like to 'see' more than half a dozen nearest points.

  Of course  if there are configurable keypad  user can   make a  keymap 
best suitable for his/her preferences.


On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Shawn Kirkpatrick wrote:

> I think from a user interface perspective this would be a very bad idea since 
> the joystick would be changing functions with no warning. This would make it 
> very hard to keep track of a point in front of you as you're moving because 
> when you stopped you'd have to figure out in what direction that point was. 
> This would work if you knew your previous heading but otherwise would 
> probably cause confusion. You can control what directions loadstone gives for 
> heading, point direction, and exploration point direction. Go to the settings 
> and then hit right arrow to get to the display settings.
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006, Ari Moisio wrote:
>> Hi
>> There could be so me easy way to select  type of direction information. 
>> When mobin relative direction is usually the best but when standing and gps 
>> has lost  heading information it would be  better to have cardinal 
>> direction (or degrees) instead of false relative direction.
>> Maybe this functionality  could be tied to static threshold speed.
>> -- 
>> arimo
>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006, Shawn Kirkpatrick wrote:
>>> This is the expected behaviour. This is because the cardinal directions 
>>> are absolute, north is north and 0 degrees is 0 degrees. This may or may 
>>> not work for you depending on your preference. The clock face method is 
>>> probably what most people will use, in that mode the direction is in 
>>> relation to your current heading. That's because 12 o'clock is straight in 
>>> front of you so the heading has to be taken in to account.
>>> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006, Gabriel Battaglia wrote:
>>>> Hi everybody.
>>>> I'm used to keep the following settings on my Loadstone.
>>>> Option\Settings\display settings
>>>> | show heading = degrees | heading  point = clock face | heading esplorer 
>>>> =
>>>> degrees |.
>>>> - Sorry if I did some mistake within the option's name but I'm using a
>>>> translated version here.
>>>> Well, when I'm in navigation mode moving in a certain direction I've 
>>>> noticed
>>>> that joystick runs with a relative positions. So, if I move it up, LS 
>>>> says
>>>> me the next point in front of me, in my heading direction. Obviously if I
>>>> move the joystick down I will know what point is the closiest behind me 
>>>> and
>>>> so on. I think this is the more logical way to use loadstone, the most
>>>> comprehensive.
>>>> On saturday morning I was riding my uncle's car and I dicided to change
>>>> settings of Loadstone moving the heading point from Clock face to 
>>>> degrees.
>>>> Back to the navigation mode I found out that things was changed and I 
>>>> felt a
>>>> bit confused. The joystick didn't work as it does before using my 
>>>> direction
>>>> to up and so on but it seems working with the absolute cardinal compass. 
>>>> At
>>>> that time I was riding beaming south (177°). I've tried to push the 
>>>> joystick
>>>> up and LS says me some of my point which are already passed behind us.
>>>> My question is... Is that possible?
>>>> Changing this option cause also loadstone different ways to output its
>>>> informations? Please try to do my same experience, change the point
>>>> direction from or into clock face and try to hang around.
>>>> Gabriel.
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