[Loadstone] Exploration mode commands do not speak

Ari Moisio arimo at netsonic.fi
Thu Jul 27 21:32:16 BST 2006


  Thanks for test version. This problem really has something to do with 
point name size. Shorten ones like 'koti' and 'tikantie' are talked 
properly but for example 'tikkakoskentie-metsätie' or 
tikkakoskentie-tikkamannilantie' are not spoken neither with number keys 
or with joystick.

  I have included cc: to  Codefactory. Phone and MS details below.


On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Monty Lilburn wrote:

> Hello Ari,
> Hmmm, I am not sure at this point why you are experiencing the problems
> you are having.  Perhaps Shawn will have a comment.  The "No waypoints
> found" message is normal behaviour and is happening because you do not
> have any points in whatever direction you are querying.  As for certain
> keys provoking speech and others not I am not sure about this as the
> program is using the same display function for all output.  That is, its
> strange that it works sometimes and not others.
> It may have to do with a text wrapping issue that is currently being
> worked on and will be fixed in the next version or 2.  Apparently the text
> doesn't always display properly on the screen.
> We have one more thing we can try for now and see if this makes a
> difference.  If you or anyone else wants to download the following
> loadstone-test.sis file and see if it fixes things it might be worth a
> try.
> Click on the following link to download:
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com/download/test
> Regards,
>    Monty
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Ari Moisio wrote:
>> Hi!
>>  Here we go.
>>  in exploration mode most of the movements are not read, neither
>> screenreader can read that information from the screen afterwards. 'No
>> waypoint found' -message is usually read aloud. With joystick  'no
>> waypoints found' is not read then looking for wrong direction.
>>   On navigation mode when looking around with joystick waypoints are read
>> sometimes. Keys 1, 5 and 6 do not read out but shift 5 and shift 6 works
>> as expected.
>>  My phone is Nokia 6680 but N6600 has similar behavior. Screen reader  is
>> Mobilespeak 2.03 (latest). Loadstone version is 0.58. GPS is OEM SIRF-3,
>> connected and has a fix.
>>  --
>> arimo
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Monty Lilburn wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> We have recently been made aware that on certain phones for some unclear
>>> reason Exploration mode commands are not functioning as expected.
>>> As an example, if you enter Exploration mode and attempt to move the
>>> Exploration mode focus to the next point to the East (by pressing 6)
>>> ,Loadstone should print the resulting point on the screen and in turn will
>>> speak the resulting point via your phone's screen reader.
>>> What seams to be happening with some people is the resulting point is
>>> being displayed on the screen but the screen  reader is not speaking the
>>> result.
>>> At this point we are slightly baffled as to why this is happening.  We
>>> will however track this problem down with your help.
>>> We need to hear from as many people as possible whether it is working for
>>> you or not.  If people could please post a message to the list including
>>> their experience that would be very much appreciated and will assist us in
>>> rectifying the problem.
>>> If you could please let us know the following:
>>> 1.  Are you able to receive feedback from your screen reader while moving
>>> around in Exploration mode (using keys 1 through 9)
>>> 2.  What screen reader and version are you using?
>>> 3.  What make and model of phone are you using?  (The firmware version
>>> would be useful to know as well)  To find out your Nokia phone's firmware
>>> version, type: star number sign zero zero zero zero and number sign.
>>> (Number sign >>>
>>> 4.  Are you using Loadstone in conjunction with a GPS receiver?  If so,
>>> what make and model are you using?
>>> Again, even if this is working fine for you if you could let us know that
>>> would be very useful!  That way we can rule in or out potential causes!
>>> We will try and fix this as soon as possible as we can imagine it must be
>>> quite annoying though it works fine on each of the Developer's phones -
>>> granted none of which are running the latest screen readers or are new
>>> themselves!
>>> Thanks,
>>>   Monty
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