[Loadstone] Exploration mode commands do not speak

Monty Lilburn monty at loadstone-gps.com
Thu Jul 27 20:55:21 BST 2006

Hello Ari,

Hmmm, I am not sure at this point why you are experiencing the problems 
you are having.  Perhaps Shawn will have a comment.  The "No waypoints 
found" message is normal behaviour and is happening because you do not 
have any points in whatever direction you are querying.  As for certain 
keys provoking speech and others not I am not sure about this as the 
program is using the same display function for all output.  That is, its 
strange that it works sometimes and not others.

It may have to do with a text wrapping issue that is currently being 
worked on and will be fixed in the next version or 2.  Apparently the text 
doesn't always display properly on the screen.

We have one more thing we can try for now and see if this makes a 
difference.  If you or anyone else wants to download the following 
loadstone-test.sis file and see if it fixes things it might be worth a 

Click on the following link to download:



On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Ari Moisio wrote:

> Hi!
>  Here we go.
>  in exploration mode most of the movements are not read, neither
> screenreader can read that information from the screen afterwards. 'No
> waypoint found' -message is usually read aloud. With joystick  'no
> waypoints found' is not read then looking for wrong direction.
>   On navigation mode when looking around with joystick waypoints are read
> sometimes. Keys 1, 5 and 6 do not read out but shift 5 and shift 6 works
> as expected.
>  My phone is Nokia 6680 but N6600 has similar behavior. Screen reader  is
> Mobilespeak 2.03 (latest). Loadstone version is 0.58. GPS is OEM SIRF-3,
> connected and has a fix.
>  --
> arimo
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Monty Lilburn wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> We have recently been made aware that on certain phones for some unclear
>> reason Exploration mode commands are not functioning as expected.
>> As an example, if you enter Exploration mode and attempt to move the
>> Exploration mode focus to the next point to the East (by pressing 6)
>> ,Loadstone should print the resulting point on the screen and in turn will
>> speak the resulting point via your phone's screen reader.
>> What seams to be happening with some people is the resulting point is
>> being displayed on the screen but the screen  reader is not speaking the
>> result.
>> At this point we are slightly baffled as to why this is happening.  We
>> will however track this problem down with your help.
>> We need to hear from as many people as possible whether it is working for
>> you or not.  If people could please post a message to the list including
>> their experience that would be very much appreciated and will assist us in
>> rectifying the problem.
>> If you could please let us know the following:
>> 1.  Are you able to receive feedback from your screen reader while moving
>> around in Exploration mode (using keys 1 through 9)
>> 2.  What screen reader and version are you using?
>> 3.  What make and model of phone are you using?  (The firmware version
>> would be useful to know as well)  To find out your Nokia phone's firmware
>> version, type: star number sign zero zero zero zero and number sign.
>> (Number sign = hash)
>> 4.  Are you using Loadstone in conjunction with a GPS receiver?  If so,
>> what make and model are you using?
>> Again, even if this is working fine for you if you could let us know that
>> would be very useful!  That way we can rule in or out potential causes!
>> We will try and fix this as soon as possible as we can imagine it must be
>> quite annoying though it works fine on each of the Developer's phones -
>> granted none of which are running the latest screen readers or are new
>> themselves!
>> Thanks,
>>   Monty
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