[Loadstone] adding POIS from POI factory.com

Rob Melchers rob at loadstone-gps.com
Fri Dec 1 13:57:41 GMT 2006


Hi Rusty,

Yes, export a personal database (see the new entry on page 3 of the manual) 
and find your userID, it's the second number from the right (fields are 
seperated by comma's). Make a copy of this number, you'll need it every 
time you want to convert a POI-Factory file.

At 11/30/2006, you wrote:
>OK,
>I'm a bit confused here.
>  What I don't understand is how to get at and manipulate a loadstone
>database to get the info required to convert a poi factory database.
>  I understand that loadstone has a database which is automatically
>loaded when I start the program. It is this file in to which I import
>POIs when I download them from the points share database.
>
>On the converter I'm asked for my user id. Do I get that ID from a
>file I've downloaded from the psd, or must I some how drag my database
>from my phone to my pc to look at it and get the info, and then after
>grabbing the converted info, paste it in to this file?
>
>Thanks so much! :-)
>Rusty
>
>
>On 11/30/06, Shawn Kirkpatrick <shawn at odyssey.cm.nu> wrote:
> > You may want to always include the table headers. Even if this is added to
> > an existing database file it'll still work. On the other hand a file 
> without
> > a propper header won't work at all.
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Rob Melchers wrote:
> >
> > > Priority is set to 2, next to userID there's a checkbox, check it to get
> > the
> > > database header for making a 'stand alone' database of the generated
> > points.
> > > Leave it unchecked if you want to insert the data in an existing 
> database.
> > >
> > > Radius:
> > > Large has a radius of 1 degree, Normal is 0.2 degree and Small is 0.05
> > > degree. 1 degree of latitude is 111 km. 1 degree of longitude is 111 
> km at
> > > the equater, and 0 degrees at the poles. Helps?
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > At 11/29/2006, you wrote:
> > >> Hi again Rob,
> > >> How is the radius derived? I'm trying to figure out what large, normal
> > >> and small means in terms of miles or kilometers or degrees or what
> > >> ever. :-)
> > >> Thanks!
> > >> Rusty
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 11/29/06, slery <slerythema at insightbb.com> wrote:
> > >> > No, it is another piece of software for the phone.  I was just using
> > the
> > >> > licensing as an example of how we could get around the problem without
> > >> doing
> > >> > anything illegal or getting the loadstone people in trouble.
> > >> >
> > >> > Cindy
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> > >> > [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com]On Behalf Of Rusty Perez
> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:21 PM
> > >> > To: General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program
> > >> > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] adding POIS from POI factory.com
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Cindy, Is this also a gps type of product?
> > >> > Thanks!
> > >> > Rusty
> > >> >
> > >> > On 11/28/06, slery <slerythema at insightbb.com> wrote:
> > >> > > Yes, that sounds helpful.  I understand by the license that we have
> > to
> > >> use
> > >> > > the information for our personal use.  I am using another piece of
> > >> > software
> > >> > > I bought from a sight.  They cannot convert some things freely
> > >> available
> > >> > but
> > >> > > there is a convert that works with the information that is 
> available.
> > >> > What
> > >> > > they have done is put a note on their website recommending the
> > >> conversion
> > >> > if
> > >> > > certain data is not working as optimally as desired and then they
> > >> provide
> > >> > a
> > >> > > link to the site to get the converter.  They are not converting the
> > >> data
> > >> > for
> > >> > > us.  We have to do that but they provide all the instructions for
> > doing
> > >> so
> > >> > > including the optimal settings to use when using the converter.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Something like that for POI factory would be great.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cindy
> > >> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >> > >   From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> > >> > > [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com]On Behalf Of Rob 
> Melchers
> > >> > >   Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:05 PM
> > >> > >   To: General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS program
> > >> > >   Subject: Re: [Loadstone] adding POIS from POI factory.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >   the "Terms of Use" of poi-factory:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >   "You may load location data obtained from this web site into a GPS
> > >> > > navigation system only for your own personal use. You may not
> > otherwise
> > >> > copy
> > >> > > or distribute any materials from this web site, including User
> > >> > Submissions.
> > >> > > You may not create any derivative works based on materials obtained
> > >> from
> > >> > > this web site."
> > >> > >
> > >> > >   This means, that you may convert the contents of a .cvs file
> > >> downloaded
> > >> > > from poi-factory to the Loadstone GPS format, as long as you don't
> > >> upload
> > >> > > this data to the Points Share Exchange web site, but only use it for
> > >> your
> > >> > > own purposes.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >   I can write an on-line tool to do the conversion, that is, if all
> > >> .cvs
> > >> > > files have the same format. I've downloaded two, they were the same
> > >> > format.
> > >> > > The option to include only points in a certain area is possible as
> > long
> > >> as
> > >> > > you know the coordinates of your location. You also need your 
> user ID
> > >> as
> > >> > > generated by Loadstone GPS (you can find this in any exported
> > Loadstone
> > >> > > database file.). Finally, you have to be able to insert the 
> generated
> > >> data
> > >> > > into an existing database file. Let me know if this would be
> > helpfull.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >   Rob
> > >> > >
> > >> > >   At 11/28/2006, you wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >     If this info is freely available from the government, then could
> > we
> > >> > >     find a different place from which to get it so as not to use the
> > >> > >     downloads from POI factory?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >     How do you folks convert files when we send them to you? I sent
> > one
> > >> to
> > >> > >     Monty a few weeks ago and he was able to convert it.
> > >> > >     Also, if a converter were to be written, would it be possible to
> > >> > >     include a routine to pull out only relevant points, such as 
> those
> > >> in
> > >> > >     my county or 25 miles around me?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >     On 11/27/06, Shawn Kirkpatrick <shawn at odyssey.cm.nu> wrote:
> > >> > >     > There's currently no converter to do this as far as I know.
> > Does
> > >> > > anyone out
> > >> > >     > there want to write one?
> > >> > >     >
> > >> > >     > On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, slery wrote:
> > >> > >     >
> > >> > >     > > How would you convert the data?  Is there currently a
> > software
> > >> > > available
> > >> > >     > to
> > >> > >     > > do this?
> > >> > >     > >
> > >> > >     > > Cindy
> > >> > >     > >
> > >> > >     > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > >     > > From: loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com
> > >> > >     > > [mailto:loadstone-bounces at loadstone-gps.com]On Behalf Of
> > Shawn
> > >> > >     > > Kirkpatrick
> > >> > >     > > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:36 PM
> > >> > >     > > To: General discussion pertaining to the Loadstone GPS
> > program
> > >> > >     > > Subject: Re: [Loadstone] adding POIS from POI factory.com
> > >> > >     > >
> > >> > >     > >
> > >> > >     > > I've read the terms of use for poifactory.com and it doesn't
> > >> look
> > >> > we
> > >> > > can
> > >> > >     > > include these as part of the point share exchange site. You
> > >> could
> > >> > > use the
> > >> > >     > > data for your personal system thoe, you'd just need a
> > converter
> > >> > for
> > >> > > the
> > >> > >     > > files. Kind of stupid since the data is technically free but
> > >> the
> > >> > > license
> > >> > >     > > they have it under is somewhat restrictive.
> > >> > >     > >
> > >> > >     > > On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Rusty Perez wrote:
> > >> > >     > >
> > >> > >     > >> Hi Monty and Shawn, a while back I asked you folks about
> > >> adding
> > >> > > some
> > >> > >     > >> pois from POI factory. I don't have any way of converting
> > the
> > >> > > files,
> > >> > >     > >> but I am very interested in helping to incorporate these
> > pois
> > >> in
> > >> > to
> > >> > >     > >> the database. They include tons of stuff we'd be interested
> > >> in,
> > >> > > most
> > >> > >     > >> importantly hospitals and clinics, but also parks, 
> churches,
> > >> > names
> > >> > > of
> > >> > >     > >> developments ETC. Please let me know if there's anything I
> > can
> > >> do
> > >> > > to
> > >> > >     > >> help these items be included in to the database.
> > >> > >     > >> The main problem is converting them to something which can
> > be
> > >> > > uploaded
> > >> > >     > >> to the database.
> > >> > >     > >>
> > >> > >     > >> Thanks!
> > >> > >     > >> Rusty
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